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p.8 #1 · Canon 7D

I wouldn't mind my 1Ds II in the 5D body. That'd be cool. Don't need much else.

Though, I'm OK right now with just my 1Ds II, but it would be nice to have it shoehorned into a smaller body for traveling.

Aug 20, 2009 at 12:56 AM

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p.8 #2 · Canon 7D

Jman13 wrote:
I wouldn't mind my 1Ds II in the 5D body. That'd be cool. Don't need much else.

Though, I'm OK right now with just my 1Ds II, but it would be nice to have it shoehorned into a smaller body for traveling.

I'd be in line fast for that, just upgrade the generic stuff (DIGIC IV, 3" screen, ISO)

Aug 20, 2009 at 01:12 AM

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p.8 #3 · Canon 7D

Greg Schneider wrote:
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Hmmm how would they fit a pop up flash and a FF viewfinder in a camera? I bet the viewfinder is as high as a skyscraper.

What about the Nikon D700? They managed a pop up flash and a good viewfinder on that camera!

Not really, it's offically 95% coverage and some say it's even less in their testing.

as a former 100% viewfinder only afficianado: seeing a little less than you're actually getting is a problem, WHY? Nothing is more annoying than just barely getting something in the frame and due to slight camera movement getting it lopped off. Since virtually no one with a dslr prints their best shots at 3:2, you're going to crop anyway and <100% viewfinder gives you a little more leeway...if you see it in the viewfinder, it's "in" with a bit of a guardband around it.

Aug 20, 2009 at 01:12 AM

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p.8 #4 · Canon 7D

brainiac wrote:
A 12 Mpixel camera with better AF would be very much in keeping with the Canon tradition of not giving the customer everything she wants. I want a 3D, i.e. better AF, lightweight body, 21 megapixels, $3000. I'm sure that ain't coming. Direct hits not allowed at Canon.

Direct hits aren't allowed by any camera company when a direct hit is defined as "giving the customer everything she wants". If that were the case, everyone here on FM would have their own custom Canon. It's funny 'cause the 3D is different for almost everyone here. Some say, "give me a 3D or a 7D". It's funny because both are mythological cameras. However, I will wait to see what comes out before my next camera purchase, but I'm expecting to buy a 5DII.

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Aug 20, 2009 at 01:41 AM

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p.8 #5 · Canon 7D

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The "5" on my 5D MK II has tiny horizontal lines running thru it, not as bold as the ones in the D, but visible. I do not see them in the 7. Also do not see a red dot on the edge of the lens to proclaim it FF.

Yes, this is an interesting observation regarding the lack of a red dot on the lens. Also it looks like whatever lens is on the camera, it has a switch of some sort (AF/MF or perhaps a focus limiter) located right at the lens mount. I'm not familiar with any Canon EF lenses designed in this way. Such a switch is normally at least a cm or two from the mount.. Maybe EF-S lenses are different? (don't own any, so can't say for sure)

Aug 20, 2009 at 01:42 AM

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p.8 #6 · Canon 7D

irish-george wrote:
Since virtually no one with a dslr prints their best shots at 3:2, you're going to crop anyway and <100% viewfinder gives you a little more leeway...if you see it in the viewfinder, it's "in" with a bit of a guardband around it.

Huh? I print the vast majority of my shots at 3:2...why wouldn't you? Unless, of course, the shot fits the 5:4 aspect better (portraits, some scenes). I have a lot of 10x15 inch prints, a few 12x18s and a 20x30 on my wall.

Aug 20, 2009 at 01:48 AM

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Jman13 wrote:
Huh? I print the vast majority of my shots at 3:2...why wouldn't you? Unless, of course, the shot fits the 5:4 aspect better (portraits, some scenes). I have a lot of 10x15 inch prints, a few 12x18s and a 20x30 on my wall.

+1

Aug 20, 2009 at 01:50 AM

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rscheffler wrote:
scalesusa wrote:
The "5" on my 5D MK II has tiny horizontal lines running thru it, not as bold as the ones in the D, but visible. I do not see them in the 7. Also do not see a red dot on the edge of the lens to proclaim it FF.

Yes, this is an interesting observation regarding the lack of a red dot on the lens. Also it looks like whatever lens is on the camera, it has a switch of some sort (AF/MF or perhaps a focus limiter) located right at the lens mount. I'm not familiar with any Canon EF lenses designed in this way. Such a switch is normally at least a cm or two from the mount.. Maybe EF-S lenses are different? (don't own any, so can't say for sure)

I took a look at pretty much every black Canon lens on the Canon USA site, and the only ones that I found that have a switch at the location shown in the OP's photo, with that kind of switch design, appear to be a couple of the EF-S zooms that actually have two switches - for AF/MF and IS on/off. Since one can see a fair amount of metal lens mount, my guess is it's the 18-200 EF-S lens. If that's the case, then this would be an APS-C body, unless it's a new EF lens without a red dot.

Ron

Aug 20, 2009 at 01:58 AM

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p.8 #9 · Canon 7D

I looked more closely at the picture.
Only the xxD cameras have both the EOS text and the model number on the same badge.
The curves in the upper part of the body, where the flash button is, are also the same as on the xxD and xxxD cameras.
The lens seems to be the efs 18-200 indeed.
So, I'd say that this is a new iteration of the xxD series - presumably with pro AF and other pro features and hence the single digit model number.

Aug 20, 2009 at 02:01 AM

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For those people who think Canon won't introduce a better-AF and a full-frame sensor on the 7D because it will steal sales from the 5DMKII / 1D series, well guess what, the Nikon D700 is doing a good job on that already!! I really think that Canon was caught off-guard with the intro of the D700 and D3X. I remember when the 5DMKII was introduced - it was a big let down because it stuck with the same 9 pt AF - it almost seemed as if the video feature was added at the last minute to differentiate itself from the already successful Nikon D700 and the newly introduced D90. A bunch of Canon shooters also jumped ship because of the D700 and D3x, I was almost one of them

I am not bashing the 5DII but that camera is strictly targeted to landscape / studio shooters. A bunch of wedding shooters are not interested in 21 mpx files when they are shooting for 8 full hours - 12 is enough...... so if Canon has any sense, they would get this one right by directly stopping Canon shooters looking into the D700 or the newly introduced D300s!!

scalesusa - OK, you got me!! but you know what I mean....

Aug 20, 2009 at 02:16 AM

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p.8 #11 · Canon 7D

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A bunch of wedding shooters are not interested in 21 mpx files when they are shooting for 8 full hours - 12 is enough......

that is why canon made sraw.

Aug 20, 2009 at 02:27 AM

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p.8 #12 · Canon 7D

big country wrote:
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A bunch of wedding shooters are not interested in 21 mpx files when they are shooting for 8 full hours - 12 is enough......

that is why canon made sraw.

Aperture does not support sRAW

Don't know if Lightroom does......

But still, an upgrade in AF would've a nice addition to the new 5D, especially for low light event shooters.....

Aug 20, 2009 at 02:29 AM

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p.8 #13 · Canon 7D

Lightroom handles sRAW on the 5D II just fine. I have been shooting with the 40D and recently bought a 5D II. I have had no issues with the AF on the 5D II. It will be interesting to see if the 7D will be a lower cost FF body (maybe a backup cam) or a crop, but I'm very satisfied with the 5D II. Based on the model number, it would seem that the 7D would fit somewhere below the 5D II and might even be a cropper for XXD upgraders.

Aug 20, 2009 at 02:35 AM

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p.8 #14 · Canon 7D

Aperture's lack of support for sRAW is an Apple problem, not a Canon problem. And LR for Mac handles sRAW just fine.

I do hope that the 7D is FF and 12ish MP though. I'd be perfectly happy with a "modernized" version of the 5D Classic with the nice new LCDs that they have on the current model DSLRs.

Upgraded AF would be even better, but I won't hold out hope for that one.

roanjohnnyc wrote:
big country wrote:
roanjohnnyc wrote:
A bunch of wedding shooters are not interested in 21 mpx files when they are shooting for 8 full hours - 12 is enough......

that is why canon made sraw.

Aperture does not support sRAW

Don't know if Lightroom does......

But still, an upgrade in AF would've a nice addition to the new 5D, especially for low light event shooters.....

Aug 20, 2009 at 02:43 AM

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p.8 #15 · Canon 7D

I'd rather have 12 native megapixels over sRAW.

Aug 20, 2009 at 02:53 AM

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p.8 #16 · Canon 7D

Canon needs to make 2 cameras:

1. A cheap Rebel

2. A 25 Mpix Full frame, with 5DmkII ISO performance, that'll do 8 fps in crop mode, with 1D mk II AF system. Weather seal it, throw video, live view & the other doo-dads in it and sell it for $3000 usd.

Upgrade both every 2 years and be done with it. Everyone will be happy. (except the person above me that wants '12 native megapixels over sRAW.")

Aug 20, 2009 at 03:02 AM

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p.8 #17 · Canon 7D

I have no special info, but it will never have a 1 series AF, that's just dreaming.
It won't be $2700. That's the list for the 5D, and the 7D will be a lesser model line.

- It will be around 12 to 16mp.
- Full Frame is unlikely, I would expect a 1.3x crop sensor. (explanation further down)
- Video and a pop-up flash is virtually guaranteed, by the convincing body badge photo.
- It will be around $1700. (competition for the D300)
- OLED is doubtful, but not impossible.

Finally (and this is purely my wild speculation) I'm not sure this is the 50D replacement.
Everybody is expecting a 1Dm4 to be announced early Sep, with a new 1.3x sensor. I would bet the 7D will have the same sensor. So the 7D and 5D are budget versions of the 1D and 1Ds.

The 1.3x crop sensor means it can't be a replacement for the 50D. After the 50D came out, it was suggested that the xxD line will be moved from a 12 to an 18 month cycle. That leaves the door open for a 9D to be the successor to the 50D in the spring. something in the $1000 to $1200 range.

So the final lineup has:
The "super res" 1Ds line
The "super speed" 1D line
Their budget siblings, the 5D and 7D lines, respectively
And finally the "entry prosumer" 9D

At least that sounds logical to me anyway. Isn't Wild speculation fun!

Aug 20, 2009 at 03:22 AM

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p.8 #18 · Canon 7D

7d 1.3 crop
720 p video
920k screen
hdmi
CF card slot
10.1 mp
poor man 1dmk3

Aug 20, 2009 at 04:01 AM

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p.8 #19 · Canon 7D

Why do you guys torture yourselves with these speculations, that are completely out off of the wall?

7D, 3D 9D...

I'll believe any of this crap when I see it.

Just because you want this, doesn't mean Canon will give this.

Aug 20, 2009 at 04:01 AM

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p.8 #20 · Canon 7D

roanjohnnyc wrote:
For those people who think Canon won't introduce a better-AF and a full-frame sensor on the 7D because it will steal sales from the 5DMKII / 1D series, well guess what, the Nikon D700 is doing a good job on that already!! I really think that Canon was caught off-guard with the intro of the D700 and D3X. I remember when the 5DMKII was introduced - it was a big let down because it stuck with the same 9 pt AF - it almost seemed as if the video feature was added at the last minute to differentiate itself from the already successful Nikon D700 and the newly introduced D90. A bunch of Canon shooters also jumped ship because of the D700 and D3x, I was almost one of them

Yeah some of the best high ISO capabilities and the ability to crop more out of an image aren't of interest to a wedding shooting.

Give me a break.

Aug 20, 2009 at 04:02 AM

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