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cordellwillis wrote:
tgomearajr wrote:
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Then buy the Yongnuo triggers and be happy.

I prefer dependable and versatile.

Tom

The thing is I believe some time ago when they announced they were making these there was word of more like $25. I'm not positive, but that's what I seem to recall.

Exactly, they were supposed to be a $25 bare bones item. The original announcement:
http://strobist.blogspot.com/2007/10/breaking-radiopopper-jr-announced.html

Aug 17, 2009 at 12:12 AM

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That link is an old Strobist announcement.

That was not the be all and end all of information ever published on Radiopoppers Jrx system. They themselves posted a long explanation detailing the original concept and how that concept changed. I noticed you did not link to that.

And like a lot of companies, they missed their announced release date too. But that was then and now is now. Not only am I glad they waited, but I am more than happy to see the additional features in a price that is less than half the competition (and I do not consider Chinese knock off crap "competition").

So, everyone is welcome to bitch and moan about not getting 25 buck triggers... I look forward to what they ARE releasing.

Tom

Aug 17, 2009 at 02:21 AM

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SkankPile wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWm3i3f3pOc&feature=player_embedded
http://radiopopper.com/blog/2009/02/14/high-speed-sync-w-bees-and-others/

This video shows radio popper syncing alien bees a 1/8000 f2.8... I'm wondering if the soon to be cyber commander can do such?

I also like how the radio popper can control the AB/WL series, but noted that the newest PCB Max stuff seems to have dumped the phone cord connection (as shown in the mock-ups )... so its kinda a catch 22 for future releases of the bees and RPopper guess.

We like to get more than 2WS out of our lights.

Aug 17, 2009 at 02:33 AM

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tgomearajr wrote:
That link is an old Strobist announcement.

That was not the be all and end all of information ever published on Radiopoppers Jrx system. They themselves posted a long explanation detailing the original concept and how that concept changed. I noticed you did not link to that.

And like a lot of companies, they missed their announced release date too. But that was then and now is now. Not only am I glad they waited, but I am more than happy to see the additional features in a price that is less than half the competition (and I do not consider Chinese knock off crap "competition").

So, everyone is welcome to bitch and moan about not getting 25 buck triggers... I look forward to what they ARE releasing.

Tom

Tom, I know I personally read it on RP blog and not on Strobist site. I kept up with their announcements until the original RP came out. I then decided to move on because I wanted something simpler (ie RP mention of a straight forward non-TTL unit that kept getting delayed). I'm not one to get twisted about delays because that's just life, but I still kept my eye on their blog for the fact of very low priced units they (not Strobist) mentioned.

Aug 17, 2009 at 03:45 AM

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Paul Buff wrote:
SkankPile wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWm3i3f3pOc&feature=player_embedded
http://radiopopper.com/blog/2009/02/14/high-speed-sync-w-bees-and-others/

This video shows radio popper syncing alien bees a 1/8000 f2.8... I'm wondering if the soon to be cyber commander can do such?

I also like how the radio popper can control the AB/WL series, but noted that the newest PCB Max stuff seems to have dumped the phone cord connection (as shown in the mock-ups )... so its kinda a catch 22 for future releases of the bees and RPopper guess.

We like to get more than 2WS out of our lights.

How many "effective watts" at 1/8000th, 2.8 though?

Aug 17, 2009 at 03:46 AM

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I'm pretty excited by this announcement. These do everything I'd buy a Pocket Wizard for and more -- and I can get a transmitter/receiver set for much less than a single Wizard would cost me. If these work, I'm in for several.

Aug 17, 2009 at 05:25 AM

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... and it looks like they do:

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2009/08/radiopopper-jrx-will-make-you-fat-and.html

Aug 17, 2009 at 05:25 AM

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Thanks for the link, answered a bunch of questions. Namely, the knobs have a lock (and you can disable a group entirely which I LIKE), 100 yard range, etc. Agree about the battery thing, AAA's would have made more sense?

Aug 17, 2009 at 06:27 AM

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cordellwillis wrote:
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So far pretty much every firmware update has been to fix 'issues'. I'd rather a system that didn't need that kind of input. What's more I'd love a system without problems that I can bleeding well buy in the UK. According to RP in 30 days they should have a clearer timeline as to when the EU versions of the Px system will be availible. In other words check back this time 2010. Hits head against wall...

The perfect world is through the door to your left. Nothing fails over there.

Easy for you to say, you can buy them!

Shooting weddings with wireless ETTL is an exercise in fustration, did it fire, did it not fire, every time I change from left to right I have to reorientate the sensor while turning the flash head back into the brolly, etc, etc. There's a wedding photographer in the UK whose trialing the US Px's at the moment, said he'd give me an answer on Teusday. I'm holding my breath in huge anticipation with my credit card tingling. Won't help me for the 4 weddings I have over the next fortnight unfortunately.

Aug 17, 2009 at 06:32 AM

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Beni wrote:
cordellwillis wrote:
Beni wrote:
So far pretty much every firmware update has been to fix 'issues'. I'd rather a system that didn't need that kind of input. What's more I'd love a system without problems that I can bleeding well buy in the UK. According to RP in 30 days they should have a clearer timeline as to when the EU versions of the Px system will be availible. In other words check back this time 2010. Hits head against wall...

The perfect world is through the door to your left. Nothing fails over there.

Easy for you to say, you can buy them!

Aug 17, 2009 at 11:45 AM

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They don't do wireless ETTL that I know of...

Aug 17, 2009 at 12:06 PM

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Beni wrote:
They don't do wireless ETTL that I know of...

I did my homework since no one wanted to answer this simple question.

PW vs RP

PW can do remote ETTL without on camera flash, RP don't
PW can do Hyper Sync, RP don't
PW can do High Sync Speed without on camera flash, RP don't

RP can controll AB/WL flashes, PW don't
RP have a much better range with many speedlites
RP are cheaper

Aug 17, 2009 at 01:20 PM

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I was talking about the skyports mentioned in the previous post, sigh..

Oh and hypersync with a 5D will give you the difference between 1/200 and 1/250, yippee. You can of course use the RP's with an ST-E2 rather than a flash.

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Aug 17, 2009 at 02:40 PM

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denoise wrote:
RP are cheaper

$250 for each RP unit (PX that is)

$225 for PW TT5
$200 for PW TT1

PW zone controller is supposed to provide something a lil extra when/if it arrives shortly. **I think** you're supposed to be able to control remote lights with the controller.

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The perfect world is through the door to your left. Nothing fails over there.

Easy for you to say, you can buy them!

Aug 17, 2009 at 02:43 PM

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Given that you can't adjust FEC remotely from the flash, ratios or wireless manual with ratios without the zone controller, all of which you can do without buying a new widget if you use RP, I wouldn't get too excited about it. If using the zone controller then forget having a flash on camera as well.

What really bugs me about RP is the fact that the PX has no input sync port so you can't fire Jx slaves without having a flash on camera, a trigger with no PC sync ability is rather pathetic. I'm also fustrated about their lying re: non US units. They've said that the Jx system will soon be availible worldwide, given that the Px is still not outside the US and a week ago they told me it would be at least 30 days till they know when it might be availible, the idea that a new system would magically get the correct licenses immediately when the Px that's 7 months old is still nowhere near...

Aug 17, 2009 at 02:52 PM

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If you use RP's with a mix of Canon 580's and AB's, is the main advantage of getting the RP basic JrX that you can avoid the pre-flash tripping of the AB's if you had used its slave function. Other than that, I'm not sure what the benefit is over the AB's built in slave function, unless you are so far away that the slave doesn't pick up enough light to trigger the AB. Both the slave function and the basic JrX require you to manually set the power level.

Seems like the Studio version is worth the bump in price if this is true (?).

Aug 17, 2009 at 07:08 PM

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erichard wrote:is the main advantage of getting the RP basic JrX that you can avoid the pre-flash tripping of the AB's if you had used its slave function. Other than that, I'm not sure what the benefit is over the AB's built in slave function,

Seriously? You see no advantage in these over a simple built-in optical trigger? If that is the case, then you are quite correct... you do not need any of the advantages found in the Radiopopper system. Save yourself the extravagance and just stick with optical.

Tom

Aug 17, 2009 at 08:25 PM

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C'mon Paul... hurry up with the commander already...

Aug 17, 2009 at 08:30 PM

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tgomearajr wrote:
erichard wrote:is the main advantage of getting the RP basic JrX that you can avoid the pre-flash tripping of the AB's if you had used its slave function. Other than that, I'm not sure what the benefit is over the AB's built in slave function,

Seriously? You see no advantage in these over a simple built-in optical trigger? If that is the case, then you are quite correct... you do not need any of the advantages found in the Radiopopper system. Save yourself the extravagance and just stick with optical.

Tom

Well, you didn't exactly tell what the advantage of the basic JrX is over the AB built in optical slave, other than what was mentioned. So what is it?

If you are using an AB, you are not using ETTL anymore, but are using manual flash, and what would be handy in manual flash is to control the power remotely, which the basic unit doesn't do. I'm guessing you get it to deal with the preflash, but maybe someone else has a better answer. Maybe to work better in bright sunlight?

Aug 18, 2009 at 12:48 AM

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Am I understanding correctly that I will lose ETTL if using the JRX's? Their blog description confused me on this point a bit.

Aug 18, 2009 at 03:02 AM

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aeast wrote:
Am I understanding correctly that I will lose ETTL if using the JRX's? Their blog description confused me on this point a bit.

If you want ETTL you must get the PX model.

Aug 18, 2009 at 03:14 AM

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cordellwillis wrote:
aeast wrote:
Am I understanding correctly that I will lose ETTL if using the JRX's? Their blog description confused me on this point a bit.

If you want ETTL you must get the PX model.

PX for both the trans and rec or would I be able to get JRX receivers and use the PX trans to keep ETTL?

Thanks for your response. I find these intriguing regardless of ETTL (AB and 580EXii's) but trying to figure out where best to put my money.

Aug 18, 2009 at 03:29 AM

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SkankPile wrote:
C'mon Paul... hurry up with the commander already...

Agree.

Otherwise I am moving from AB CS to RP Jrx Studio versions.

Aug 18, 2009 at 02:12 PM

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Well I've been sort of following these for a while now. I've always wanted pocketwizards but can't justify them and don't want to buy something that could be unreliable. Looking forward to these being released in the UK. Don't suppose anyone has heard a date anywhere? I think I read about 8 weeks after the US release date?

Aug 18, 2009 at 04:51 PM


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