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p.1 #1 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

I guess it's about where people were expecting it to be- $30,000 range to play. Still, I can't help but dream...

Jul 30, 2009 at 03:34 AM

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p.1 #2 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

Vaporware until it's actually on sale.

(But I have zero doubt that it will be...perhaps even this year)

Jul 30, 2009 at 03:50 AM

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p.1 #3 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

Let's wait and see until it's actually released. I have the feeling prices will drop significantly after a few months. In these days of disposable digital bodies, I can hardly see that many people rushing to buy it, even though the glass is certainly worth it.

Jul 30, 2009 at 04:02 AM

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p.1 #4 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

I think Leica will probably ship in Oct., as they say, although the quantities may certainly be limited.

The glass doesn't seem too obscene in cost, compared to the body.

Jul 30, 2009 at 04:14 AM

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p.1 #5 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

Agreed about the glass, but my point is that it can hardly be called Medium Format, with it's mere 1.25x factor over 35mm. I'm not sure if any of the MF advantages will be visible with this camera, as it will tend to behave very similarly to a FF 35mm with 3x-5x the price.

Jul 30, 2009 at 08:01 AM

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p.1 #6 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

Another Contax N I'd say.

Jul 30, 2009 at 09:26 AM

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p.1 #7 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

I just can't see people spending the kind of money on this system when you can get a Phase One P45+ for the same price and much cheaper lenses (of similar quality)...and a bigger sensor. But perhaps the lenses (as usual) will drive this train. Then again, I'm not a pro who needs this kind of resolution.

Jul 30, 2009 at 09:44 AM

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p.1 #8 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

Is this an official price? Any links?

Jul 30, 2009 at 10:09 AM

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p.1 #9 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-s2-forum/93581-s2-official-usa-pricing-availability.html

Official USA pricing.

Jul 30, 2009 at 10:47 AM

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p.1 #10 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

Cheers Thrice,

Some interesting threads on that forum. I'm surprised that there is nohting on David Farkas's blog about it though.

Jul 30, 2009 at 11:38 AM

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p.1 #11 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

So. Which ebay adapter shall I get for the lenses to use on my 5DII?

Jul 30, 2009 at 11:52 AM

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p.1 #12 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

Lol I doubt adaptation will be easy Andreas, considering they have electronic aperture.

Ronan, a lot of kneejerk venomous reactions at the high price. Time will tell if their target market (a majority of which won't browse forums) pick them up. For big studios the cost isn't too high, but this isn't a camera for the budding amateur or solo professional.

Jul 30, 2009 at 12:09 PM

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p.1 #13 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

Ronan O Keeffe wrote:
Some interesting threads on that forum. I'm surprised that there is nohting on David Farkas's blog about it though.

Not surprisingly it is taking him some time to work out how to spin this one...

Jul 30, 2009 at 12:10 PM

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p.1 #14 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

brainiac wrote:
Ronan O Keeffe wrote:
Some interesting threads on that forum. I'm surprised that there is nothing on David Farkas's blog about it though.

Not surprisingly it is taking him some time to work out how to spin this one...

As cynical as I am, I'm just not that cynical

Jul 30, 2009 at 12:31 PM

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p.1 #15 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

jcmarney wrote:
Still, I can't help but dream...

I don't. For some reason no body/system above FF tempts me. I have enough dreams on FF and below though.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Jul 30, 2009 at 01:21 PM

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p.1 #16 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

Yakim Peled wrote:
jcmarney wrote:
Still, I can't help but dream...

I don't. For some reason no body/system above FF tempts me. I have enough dreams on FF and below though.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

The S2 is FF

Jul 30, 2009 at 01:25 PM

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p.1 #17 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

With a stretch of imagination, sensor and wallet……

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Jul 30, 2009 at 01:34 PM

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p.1 #18 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

I went to one of Martin Parr's exhibitions not long ago. The prints were 1.5mX1m and bitingly sharp and full of details, I mean the guy is notoriously anal with image quality (which is very funny considering what he shoots but thats another story for another day). He said he had used a 5D with a Canon 35/2 and a ringflash and I think this would pretty much cover my wildest printing dreams.

Parr's prints were selling for $20k each by the way, frame not included.

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Jul 30, 2009 at 02:21 PM

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p.1 #19 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

Dave Farkas' shop:
http://www.dalephotoanddigital.com/_e/S_Cameras/product/LEICAS2/Leica_S2_Pro_Format_DSLR.htm

Jul 30, 2009 at 02:22 PM

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p.1 #20 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

thrice wrote:
Lol I doubt adaptation will be easy Andreas, considering they have electronic aperture.

Ronan, a lot of kneejerk venomous reactions at the high price. Time will tell if their target market (a majority of which won't browse forums) pick them up. For big studios the cost isn't too high, but this isn't a camera for the budding amateur or solo professional.

And that's what's going to kill the S2. Leica simply doesn't have the professional service support structure the big studios want and need and for studio work the S2 is significantly inferior in capability to similar-cost MFDB solutions. If you're shooting studio work why would you take the Leica over H3DII or a P45+or P65+ on a H2D or 645AFDIII (or RB/RZ). The other options are cheaper and significantly more future proof since the imaging system and camera are independently upgradeable (At least with the PhaseOne or Sinar solutions)

The S2 is clearly designed as an outdoor camera (sealing, small size, 35mm-esque handling). I suspect it will prove most popular with well-heeled amateur and semi-pro landscape shooters who like the combination of high resolution, weather sealing and small size.

Jul 30, 2009 at 02:24 PM

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p.1 #21 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

thrice wrote:
Lol I doubt adaptation will be easy Andreas, considering they have electronic aperture.

Ronan, a lot of kneejerk venomous reactions at the high price. Time will tell if their target market (a majority of which won't browse forums) pick them up. For big studios the cost isn't too high, but this isn't a camera for the budding amateur or solo professional.

Absolutely, the feedback seems to be unanimously negative. Although there is a bit of humour evident over on the forum you linked to.

Now lets wait for Bo Ming to work some magic on a converter

Jul 30, 2009 at 02:32 PM

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p.1 #22 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

mawz wrote:

The S2 is clearly designed as an outdoor camera (sealing, small size, 35mm-esque handling). I suspect it will prove most popular with well-heeled amateur and semi-pro landscape shooters who like the combination of high resolution, weather sealing and small size.

I don't follow his site or work too closely, but it seems like the perfect camera for someone like Michael Reichmann - travels, shoots a lot of different formats, acquires a lot of equipment, etc. Maybe not, I don't know. But a weather sealed body with AF, great lenses, and presumably good image quality due to the big chip is an attractive offering. The only problematic point is the price, but he seems to have the means to go through a lot of equipment.

Not saying he his a well-heeled amateur or semi-pro shooter either.

Jul 30, 2009 at 03:44 PM

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p.1 #23 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

Ronan O Keeffe wrote:
brainiac wrote:
Ronan O Keeffe wrote:
Some interesting threads on that forum. I'm surprised that there is nothing on David Farkas's blog about it though.

Not surprisingly it is taking him some time to work out how to spin this one...

As cynical as I am, I'm just not that cynical

I am, been following his writing over the past months.

Jul 30, 2009 at 03:48 PM

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p.1 #24 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

$30,000 for a camera that will be obsolete very soon? No thanks. It's kind of like paying $30,000 for a computer. Great investment.

Jul 30, 2009 at 03:50 PM

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p.1 #25 · What? No comments on the Leica S2 Pricing?

The question isn't how much it will be worth in a year, but how much you will make off of that gear in that year

If you can make an extra $50k with this kit over your 35mm kit, then that's an extra $20k per year. Might be worth it to some. If it's an extra $100k/year, totally worth it. An extra $15k? No go.

For me the answer $0, so I would never even consider it. The same goes for a 1DIII (of any type), D3x, etc...

Jul 30, 2009 at 03:53 PM


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