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p.1 #1 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


Ok, I'm planning to purchase a 24-70 2.8 (They are in stock everywhere in Canada...) in preparation for my move to full frame. Currently I have the 18-70 which is ok but I'm looking for better quality. The thing is I currently have a 10-20 Sigma which I think is just great. Getting a 24-70 will not leave much missing and surely a few steps can make up for this.
However, a 28-70 Beast has just come up for sale at $1000. It is $1000 cheaper, and the question is will I miss that 8mm?

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Jul 20, 2009 at 04:16 AM
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p.1 #2 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


Do you mean 6mm or 10mm? On the wide end that is quite a lot, especially for a DX camera.

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Jul 20, 2009 at 04:30 AM
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p.1 #3 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


I guess what I mean to say, is my lineup will be (eventually)
12-24 2.8,
24-70 2.8 OR 28-70. The question is will I miss the range of 24-28?
Jul 20, 2009 at 04:37 AM
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p.1 #4 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


Where are you seeing the 1K price? Over at KEH, they're running at over $1,400 for just an EX-condition copy.

FM itself has had some at that price, come to think of it.

Jul 20, 2009 at 04:45 AM
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p.1 #5 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


Unless the price point is an issue, buy the 24-70. It is the perfect fit with the 14-24. I would miss the 4mm. Basically, it is my most used lens and I use it through out its range--shoot a lot of images using 24-27.

Jul 20, 2009 at 05:16 AM
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p.1 #6 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


Dunno if it would be that big of a deal. The 24-70 is an excellent lens, but the 28-70 is no slouch. You won't be losing 8mm in reality anyway. You'd only be losing the 4mm difference between the 24-70 and 28-70.

It really depends on what you shoot and how much WA you shoot. You still have your 18-70, which is small and light, so not a big deal to carry instead of the 10-20, which could cover the 10mm you're missing from 18-28mm. IOW, you've got a lot of options that you can consider.



Jul 20, 2009 at 05:35 AM
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p.1 #7 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


Yes, you will miss the 4mm in my opinion. In terms of angular coverage the difference is not insignificant (you can look this up on the specs for yourself). My experience with 28mm is that is not quite wide enough for many applications, whereas 24mm works 9 times out of 10.

Jul 20, 2009 at 05:48 AM
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p.1 #8 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


andrewd01 wrote:
Yes, you will miss the 4mm in my opinion. In terms of angular coverage the difference is not insignificant (you can look this up on the specs for yourself). My experience with 28mm is that is not quite wide enough for many applications, whereas 24mm works 9 times out of 10.
+1

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Jul 20, 2009 at 08:28 AM
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p.1 #9 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


andrewd01 wrote:
Yes, you will miss the 4mm in my opinion. In terms of angular coverage the difference is not insignificant (you can look this up on the specs for yourself). My experience with 28mm is that is not quite wide enough for many applications, whereas 24mm works 9 times out of 10.
+2

When you get wide, every mm makes a difference.

Jul 20, 2009 at 12:47 PM
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p.1 #10 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


I don't miss the wider end of the 24-70mm. My current 28-70mm copy is sharper wide open than any 24-70mm I've owned...and I've had several and all were good/sharp. It was $599 at KEH several months ago.

Since you are open to non-Canon lenses, why not get your 12-24mm, a Tamron 28-75mm, and a 35/1.4L? Kinda-sorta similar pricing scenarios. The 35mm is dreamy on any full-framed body.

Oh my...I just realized I am on the N-n-n-n-n-i-k-o-n board. Talk about being in the wrong neighborhood!! Sorry for the non-applicable advice.

Edited on Jul 21, 2009 at 01:33 AM · View previous versions

Jul 20, 2009 at 01:06 PM
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p.1 #11 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


Yes, you will miss the 4mm in my opinion. In terms of angular coverage the difference is not insignificant (you can look this up on the specs for yourself). My experience with 28mm is that is not quite wide enough for many applications, whereas 24mm works 9 times out of 10.

+3. Every millimeter counts.

In my limited film-camera usage of my dad's 28-70 f/2.8, I found that when I wanted to get wide, 28mm wasn't wide enough, and I'd often switch out "The Beast" for his 24mm f/2.8 prime. (I admit... I was spoiled as a kid by having full access to his lens bag )

On a DX body (which it sounds like you're using if you've got a 10-20 UWA Sigma...), the difference between 28mm and 24mm is a bigger deal... 24mm really isn't "wide enough" for my needs, but a zoom starting at 28mm is just a strange range to be stuck with in terms of composition. The 28-70 is effectively a normal perspective, with medium telephoto reach at 70mm. The 24-70 gives you a hint of wider than normal perspective on DX with the same long end reach.

IMO, you WILL miss that 4mm range, and it's a focal range where if I had a 10-20 + 24-70 setup I'd be switching lenses inconveniently often. Go full frame at the same time that you get the 24-70. Sell your 10-20 and previous DX body to help finance the move.

Jul 20, 2009 at 01:42 PM
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p.1 #12 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


You might miss it, but it really depends on your shooting style. Also, it would depend if you would keep another wide angle lens handy.

If I had a 14-24 + 28-70, it would be fine. $1,000 is not insignificant either.

Jul 20, 2009 at 04:46 PM
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p.1 #13 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


Well the consensus seems to be that I will miss the 4mm but remember I will have the 14-24mm. Perhaps what I need to do is see a graphical example of this. I remember once there was a web site (Sigma?) that allowed you to plug in the lens fl and it would show you the field. Anyone know where this is?
You know, saving a $1000 is alot, I could get an 85 1.4 as well
Thanks

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p.1 #14 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


Will you always have the 14-24 with you? I don't. Often, it is me and the 24-70; and maybe a 105 or 70-200.

Jul 20, 2009 at 09:54 PM
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p.1 #15 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


luminosity wrote:
Where are you seeing the 1K price? Over at KEH, they're running at over $1,400 for just an EX-condition copy.

FM itself has had some at that price, come to think of it.

I got lucky. It's like new, checked by Nikon and $1000 canadian $'s.

I'm going to go for it. If I don't like it, I'll get my money back I'm sure.
Jul 21, 2009 at 12:12 AM
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p.1 #16 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


I shoot with the 14-24 and 28-70 on the D700 -- I do not miss the 4mm difference, If the 28-70 is not wide enough, then I just do a quick lens change, and all is good. I find myself shooting the 14-24 a lot at 24mm these days, but also a lot at 14mm. Depends completely on the look I am going after.

Jul 21, 2009 at 12:24 AM
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p.1 #17 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


tomb18 wrote:
luminosity wrote:
Where are you seeing the 1K price? Over at KEH, they're running at over $1,400 for just an EX-condition copy.

FM itself has had some at that price, come to think of it.

I got lucky. It's like new, checked by Nikon and $1000 canadian $'s.

I'm going to go for it. If I don't like it, I'll get my money back I'm sure.


Sounds good -- I paid $800 for mine in mint condition. I put a scratch in the glass window last year when I was hiking the crack trail at Killarney Provincial Park
Jul 21, 2009 at 12:24 AM
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p.1 #18 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


spend the $300-400 you save from the 24-70mmm and pick up a 12-24mm tokina f4 to compliment the 28-70mm, was a no brainer to me when i did it.

Jul 21, 2009 at 05:12 PM
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p.1 #19 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


andrewd01 wrote:
Yes, you will miss the 4mm in my opinion. In terms of angular coverage the difference is not insignificant (you can look this up on the specs for yourself). My experience with 28mm is that is not quite wide enough for many applications, whereas 24mm works 9 times out of 10.

+3

It avoids switching even when you do have the WA lens with you and it's a big deal when you don't have it with you.

Jul 21, 2009 at 08:02 PM
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p.1 #20 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


for me the money talks, and I would have no problrm with the 28-70, some people actually like the colors better from the 28-70 than the 24-70

Jul 23, 2009 at 04:55 AM
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p.1 #21 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


You could possibly miss it if you didn't have the 10-20 (or the 14-24 which you intend to buy later). However, a 10-20 and 28-70 would still be a pretty good kit as the 8mm gap might be big-ish in wide angle terms but you can certainly work with it. Worst case you shoot at 20mm and crop a bit. When you get to the 14-24 28-70 combo then the gap becomes trivial.

There is also the convenience factor, with a 10-20 and 24-70 you will be switching lenses less than with a 10-20 and 28-70.
Jul 23, 2009 at 09:58 AM
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p.1 #22 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


Gilligan wrote:
You might miss it, but it really depends on your shooting style. Also, it would depend if you would keep another wide angle lens handy.

If I had a 14-24 + 28-70, it would be fine. $1,000 is not insignificant either.

In reality you're only missing 3mm (25-27mm). I have the 14-24 and the 28-70 and it works for me. Never saw the need to upgrade to the 24-70.

Tom

Jul 25, 2009 at 04:30 AM
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p.1 #23 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


4mm may seem like a lot of you don't got it, and may not seem as much if you do.

Nov 08, 2009 at 07:37 PM
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p.1 #24 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


+4

the FOV difference between 28 and 24mm is huge, to me. It all depends on what you shoot. The 24-70 is an even shooter's dream lens.

Nov 09, 2009 at 03:49 AM
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p.1 #25 · Ok, Will I miss 8mm buying a 28-70??


I am going through this decision now. Have the D700 and the 70-200 VR I. Want either the 24-70/2.8 or the 28-70/2.8. In the past, 28mm was usually sufficient. But once in a while I wanted wider, to 24mm or 20mm (very rarely this wide).

For what the 24-70/2.8 sells for these days, I could have gotten both the 28-70/2.8 and the 17-35/2.8 a bit over a year ago for not much more money (both could easily be found for under $1000 each in mint condition at the time). Now, that difference is at least $500 more for the pair.

Nov 09, 2009 at 04:48 AM




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