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p.4 #1 · IS love thread


carlsbadbum wrote:
I'm still waiting for a 135L with IS.


Add an IS version of the 24-70 to that and I'd be set... oh boy, look what I just gone and did.

Jul 06, 2009 at 07:56 PM
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M Vers wrote: ...Add an IS version of the 24-70 to that and I'd be set... oh boy, look what I just gone and did.

I've been wanting one of those for years. The 17-55 is close, but doesn't work on FF bodies; and the 24-105 is close, but is only f/4.

I bet I'll see a 24-70 IS in my lifetime, though.

(If I live long enough. )

Jul 06, 2009 at 09:53 PM
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p.4 #3 · IS love thread


Alas, Canon is a little slow following my predictions.

http://photo.net/canon-eos-digital-camera-forum/00GvWX

Happy shooting,
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Jul 07, 2009 at 06:24 AM
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Yakim, I think your ideas are logical, but since when has Canon been logical. 5D II's have HD video, but the same AF system? Canon baited newcomers and crop-users (myself included) with a lens built like a Yugo. "IS, constant aperture, $900", Canon cried!

Viva the revolution!

No IS for you!

Jul 07, 2009 at 06:33 AM
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It's the same reason they'll never put IS on a 135. It would kill their 70-200IS sales.

Jul 07, 2009 at 06:35 AM
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........and to contribute to this thread in a positive manner............the IS on the 70-200/2.8 is freakin awsome! Must have wedding lens!

Jul 07, 2009 at 06:39 AM
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Yakim Peled wrote: Alas, Canon is a little slow following my predictions.


Well, you were half right; we do now have a 70-200 f/4 IS.

Can the 24-70 be far behind?

Jul 07, 2009 at 06:42 AM
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p.4 #8 · IS love thread


tcamper wrote:
Yakim, I think your ideas are logical, but since when has Canon been logical. 5D II's have HD video, but the same AF system? Canon baited newcomers and crop-users (myself included) with a lens built like a Yugo. "IS, constant aperture, $900", Canon cried!

Viva the revolution!

No IS for you!


I agree. That's exactly why I didn't buy a 5D or 5D Mk II nor am I going to.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Jul 07, 2009 at 06:43 AM
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tcamper wrote:
It's the same reason they'll never put IS on a 135. It would kill their 70-200IS sales.


I honestly don't think so. The 70-200/2.8 IS is hailed for its versatility in regards to focal range, something the 135 can't offer even if it were to be implemented with an IS system. I, for one, would own both as I'm sure many others would...win win for Canon IMO.

Jul 08, 2009 at 12:40 AM
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crockett wrote:
I would guess at 1/2500 of a second you could set the timer on your camera and literally throw it into the air and spin it as violently as you possibly can and it would take an image where the motion was frozen and sharp when the timer went off.


Have you ever actually done that? I did that exact thing years ago when first getting into photography, wondering how fast is fast with respect to shutter speed when it comes to both stopping action and camera motion.

I just tried it again now out of curiosity, and 1/2500 does still lead to blurry images.

This was at 17mm, too. There's no doubt that a longer lens would show even more pronounced blur.

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p.4 #11 · IS love thread


Ariel, post it!

Jul 09, 2009 at 02:23 AM
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Ariel Bravy wrote:
crockett wrote:
I would guess at 1/2500 of a second you could set the timer on your camera and literally throw it into the air and spin it as violently as you possibly can and it would take an image where the motion was frozen and sharp when the timer went off.


Have you ever actually done that? I did that exact thing years ago when first getting into photography, wondering how fast is fast with respect to shutter speed when it comes to both stopping action and camera motion.

I just tried it again now out of curiosity, and 1/2500 does still lead to blurry images.

This was at 17mm, too. There's no doubt that a longer lens would show even more pronounced blur.


Picture or it didn't happen.

Jul 09, 2009 at 02:51 AM
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meh, already deleted the pics and I don't feel like doing it again.

You can try it for yourself. Indoors I needed ISO 1600 and tossed my camera onto the bed. The only thing bright enough to be visible at 1/2500 were the lamps in my room. You could tell the lamp and the stickers on them were blurred.

Outdoors you can do it too. Have the camera land on something soft like a trampoline or whatever.

I think I remember seeing blur even at 1/8000 @ 200mm doing the same thing. It's nighttime now so I can't test it, but this I'd like to try. My 1D goes up to 1/16000, and I'd like to put that shutterspeed to the test.

Jul 09, 2009 at 03:40 AM
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Ha, if I tried tossing my camera around, my next post would be asking everyone what their Canon repair center experiences have been!

I just figured better to have someone else who'd already done it and lived to tell the tale -- I mean, lived to post the 100% crop...

Jul 09, 2009 at 03:46 AM
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Not many things move faster than 0.00016 second, or even 0.0025s. That said, I'm not crazy enough to try it myself, I don't think my insurance will understand if something happens.

Jul 09, 2009 at 03:51 AM
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p.4 #16 · IS love thread


Pictures folks, post some pictures. Preferably at less than 1/FL.....

Happy shooting,
Yakim.



Jul 09, 2009 at 06:44 AM
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p.4 #17 · IS love thread


The term "IS" (meaning image stabilization) misleads. The stabilization effect occurs in the lens by a gyro moving a lens element in response to minute movements induced by body activity like heartbeats. IS does not work on the subject itself, only the lens element. If the subject moves during exposure at a slow shutter speed, then the subject will likely appear blurred in the image.

IS takes getting used to. The IS on my 17-55mm lens settles down camera shake to a fluid motion in the viewfinder after about 1 to 2 seconds following my pressing the shutter button halfway. So wait until the IS fully kicks in before pressing the shutter button all the way. I have also found that jabbing the shutter button induces a gross movement that often causes image blur because the IS mechanism apparently cannot correct for such movement. Press the shutter button slowly and gradually for best results.

Used correctly, the IS on my lens has allowed me to take pictures at ¼ second handheld.

I turn off IS at higher shutter speeds, because not needed and because it slows down shooting.

Here’s one, already posted, taken at ¼ second handheld, in November 2008.









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Jul 09, 2009 at 07:21 AM
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p.4 #18 · IS love thread


I can't do 1/20 without it.


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Jul 09, 2009 at 10:51 AM
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Let me mention other obvious benefits of IS seldom noted explicitly: It reduces the need to carry a tripod. In turn, it reduces the time necessary to set up a shot. It reduces the need for fill flash because the camera captures the available light for exposure.

The image of the bomber aircraft indoors in the museum illustrates how the available light reaches more of the main subject at the slower shutter speed which IS makes possible. The overhead lights do cast a shadow from the aircraft on the floor, yet the light reflected from the various nearby surfaces reaches under the aircraft to illuminate this subject area. Thus the image more pleases and informs the visual perception.

Brain0: You say, “if you look at the picture of the squirrel, you'll note that the rail on which it is sitting is pretty sharp. If you look at the lines of the wood grain, there isn't any noticeable motion blur.”

This focus may result from using the setting for multiple automatic focus points instead of the center AF point. Using multiple focus points, the camera will sometimes pick a focus point in the foreground, throwing the farther elements out of focus. Hence, this automatic focus action may mimic front focus.

For this reason, when shooting a subject like a squirrel, I will set the AF to the center focus point, thereby putting the focus on the main subject.


Jul 09, 2009 at 07:56 PM
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p.4 #20 · IS love thread


anotherview wrote:
Let me mention other obvious benefits of IS seldom noted explicitly: It reduces the need to carry a tripod. In turn, it reduces the time necessary to set up a shot. It reduces the need for fill flash because the camera captures the available light for exposure.

One can argue that tripod slows you down and make you think more about composition. Much like a prime lens, or so they say. Given the choice, I will pick a sturdy tripod over IS any day.

Jul 10, 2009 at 03:20 AM
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