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p.3 #1 · How fast does photoshop run on your computer?


AMD Athlon 64 x2 4200+, Windows Vista64bit, 4 gB ram CS4 64bit.

32:25!!

I think its time to upgrade!

Bram

Jul 04, 2009 at 09:22 AM
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Burdie wrote:
AMD Athlon 64 x2 4200+, Windows Vista64bit, 4 gB ram CS4 64bit.

32:25!!

I think its time to upgrade!

Bram


That's the exact same system I have that I upgraded from. I was sick and tired of doing noise reduction on it. Lightroom was also incredibly slow. I haven't done this test on the old computer but 30+ minutes sounds about right comparing what it did against my laptop and my laptop was 15+ minutes.

You can upgrade to a Core2 for pretty cheap. Go for the lowest end quad core and get a good aftermarket heat sink and fan. Then you can overclock it quite a bit. Or you can spend a little more and get an i7 and do what I did.

Jul 04, 2009 at 10:42 AM
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Steve Perry wrote:

Wish I would have kept mine! And the tape recorder - always took a few tries to load the program with that thing


Same here, I actually had a Realistic (Radio Shack) CTR-41 cassette recorder especially for the job. Turns out there was a bug in the software that was timing the data sample at the clock edge rather than the midpoint between clock edges. Needless to say it was very temperamental.

I was probably one of the first people to ever overclock their systems. The board came with a 4MHz crystal oscillator and a DFF divide by two. By taking the 7474 DFF chip out and bridging clk-q you could soup it up 200% (from 2MHz - 4MHz). Let's see you Core i7 guys do that! Of course the Z-80 took a minimum of 4 clock cycles to do anything at all, so compared to modern superscalar systems it really had an effective clock of 500KHz (overclocked), so my E6600 is 4800x faster based on instruction cycle speed alone.

Jul 06, 2009 at 06:48 PM
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Wow camey - talk about getting into it! I just used mine at the standard speed - would have no clue at all how to do what you did! They were fun though!

Jul 06, 2009 at 07:06 PM
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froze on the first run

second run
16'38''
2.4 Ghz Intelcore2duo MBP 10.4.11 with 4 GB 667Mhz RAM

Jul 06, 2009 at 11:26 PM
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Interesting. I got my friend to do this on his stock Q6600 w/ 4GB 800mhz DDR2 ram and he got 17:58.

Jul 09, 2009 at 03:21 AM
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Core i7 Extreme 965, 3.2 ghz, no OC, Geforce 280 graphics card, 12 gb Corsair dominator RAM, twin Intel SSD's in Raid 0 array for os, programs, twin WD 1TB drives in Raid 1 for data, water cooled...

Vista Ultimate, PS CS4: 32 bit version, 3:30; 64 bit version, 2:42

Built the system myself this year... interesting project.

Larry

Jul 09, 2009 at 05:30 AM
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LDBecker wrote:
Core i7 Extreme 965, 3.2 ghz, no OC, Geforce 280 graphics card, 12 gb Corsair dominator RAM, twin Intel SSD's in Raid 0 array for os, programs, twin WD 1TB drives in Raid 1 for data, water cooled...

Vista Ultimate, PS CS4: 32 bit version, 3:30; 64 bit version, 2:42

Built the system myself this year... interesting project.

Larry


Lord Almighty. How much did that set you back??

Jul 09, 2009 at 05:01 PM
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I don't want to talk about it... it was painful... but when I start up PS CS4 in less than 3 seconds, it still makes me smile... Files from my Canon 5DII are very quickly handled.

I just got tired of having pcs go obsolete every 2 years. Building my own means I can swap out mb or processors or graphics cards when I want to, not when Dell or HP decides it's ok. The SSD Raid 0 was driven not just by speed concerns but by capacity. The Intel SSDs at this point max out at 160 gb. Going to Raid 0 gives me 320gb or so to work with for OS and programs. I may redo it when Win7 comes out.

The case I went with is dead quiet and has water cooling built in... it's the Zalman LQ1000. I had never done water before and wanted a preconfigured solution. This is pretty slick. I use it in my office and my old Dell P4 was so loud that I could barely hear people talk over it. On warm days I'd have to shut it down. But the Zalman is a really heavy duty thing and will be my case for the next couple of builds I'm sure.

Larry

Jul 09, 2009 at 05:47 PM
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4:56

Home built, Windows 7, 4 gb ram, Q600 core 2 quad @ 2.4, oc to 3.2 ghz, raptor drive, photoshop CS3. Going to get CS4 soon.

First time I ran, I had just reinstalled the CS3 on the Window 7, memory was set at 55%, it ran at 6:06. Plus the scratch disk was on the C drive, which was a raptor drive also. Then I swapped the scratch disk to a physically separate raptor drive, E, and bumped the memory to 70 percent, then it did 4:56.

UPDATE:

Previously I had run the test with CS3-32 bit. I installed CS4-64 bit and here are those results... Still all run under Windows 7 RC.

60% memory:2085 butes = 6:19
71% memory:2458 bytes = 6:04
80% memory:2822 bytes = 5:41

I guess the 64 bit really doesn't come into play here, just the processor?? My Windows 7 CS3 is the fastest. I will have to try it on my XP setup.





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LDBecker wrote:
I don't want to talk about it... it was painful... Larry


By NewEgg prices and then the case:
- Core i7 Extreme 965: $1000
- i7 mobo: $250
- Geforce 280: $250
- 12 gb: $500
- 2x Intel SSD's: $1300
- 2x WD 1TB: $150
- Zalman case: $700
- Vista Ultimate 64: $200
- CS4: assume upgrade at $150
TOTAL: $4500 assuming you kept your keyboard, mouse and monitor
This is today pricing - not a month or two ago.

LDBecker wrote:
I just got tired of having pcs go obsolete every 2 years.


Hate to break it to you Larry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moore's_law
Two years is the going rate for bleeding edge technology - or maybe less?

So how long do you think that that box will be fast enough when in two years, your secretary has a 8Ghz, 16core laptop with 1TB of solid state that acts as hard drive and memory?

BTW - I do envy that case!!! I am on a quest for a quiet PC myself - replacing fan after fan with water or Noctua fans! (Ok, so I'm jealous of the whole box!)

Jul 09, 2009 at 11:52 PM
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Yes, Hammy... I'm bleeding... thanks for poking a stick in my wounds!
My point in building it wasn't to build the cheapest, or to have a state of the art pc for several years... I just wanted to build the best pc I could build. And, three months ago, even if I could even find someone to build it for me, it would have been double the cost - but such things weren't really available in the mainstream. Dell's Alienware came close, but at nearly $9k it wasn't really feasable, and not up to the spec I wanted. I built it for about half, so your numbers aren't far off.
Another reason for doing it myself was I could put the components in it that I wanted, not whatever was available. It was especially an issue on drives and graphics cards. I also liked the challenge - I hadn't built a pc from the ground up in over 15 years - things changed just a little bit since then...
So now, when a better significantly improved processor/mb combo comes along, I can replace just that. Or graphics card (not easy to find them watercooled a few months ago...), or drives... ORRRRR - an operating system - Win7 is coming soon... The parts that are going to really get obsolete quickly are the SSD drives. Bigger and faster drives are coming quickly, I'm sure. Then I can retask these to other uses -- still WAY faster than any harddrive, and much more reliabale long term.
In 2 years I can replace bits of it, or OC the system - don't really need to do that now (although my graphics card is OC'd from the factory).

Larry (bleeding but having fun)
Edit - the case IS really nice... one of the best parts of the build. It will last for several more builds - it's that good... completely quiet, very cool, no distractions, weighs a TON

Jul 10, 2009 at 06:09 AM
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LDBecker wrote:
My point in building it wasn't to build the cheapest, or to have a state of the art pc for several years... I just wanted to build the best pc I could build.


Larry,

I totally agree, I've been building boxes for over 20 years. Used to work for some computer stores, and now have my own business. I did buy some Dells a few years ago to get things started - complete packages with warranty did the job for close to what I could build them for - but they had no specific task.
In the past few months, I've built about 18 boxes:
- 12x Quad 2.5Ghz, 4Gb, 640Gb boxes for image download and simple image processsing
- 3x Servers with Quad 3Ghz, 4Gb mem, 7x Velociraptors in RAID10 with dedicated Areca controller for massive image handling and web serving
- a few more boxes inclucing my CS4 box: Q6600 oc'd to 3.4Ghz, 8Gb mem.

So I understand being able to build your own and getting what you want. My old Q6600 oc'd to 3ghz and realizing its quite loud in my office so I've looked at that Zalman case in the past few months.

For servers especially - every time we look at building a high end server, a name brand costs 3x what we can build one for - and we can tune ours for our needs better.

Sorry about keeping the wound open - I really do like the components of your build! It'll be a few month from recovery of the above systems (and 36 DVD duplication towers) before I can build my own monster box.

Congrats for doing it right and not getting an overpriced name brand.

Jul 10, 2009 at 02:00 PM
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LDBecker, I second the congrats for doing it right and not getting an overpriced name brand.

I am curious now. Do you notice a difference between letting photoshop use your graphics card to help versus with that feature turned off?

Second curiosity is wow come using 64bit was faster than 32bit? I could swear this process doesn't take more than 3.2gb of ram (which is the max that 32bit can address) so I would have thought 64bit doesn't have any advantages. Did you maximize the amount of ram your CS4 32bit can use under performance options?

Jul 10, 2009 at 05:48 PM
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okay, nvm, just checking memory usage and with 32bit, it is maxed out already so it probably has to use scratch disk for this operation and take way longer than 64bit.

Edit:
Oh WTF! I'm comparing what happens under 32bit when using the C drive as the scratch disk versus using a separate physical drive and now I'm getting that photoshop only needs 2.6Gigs... gr.... This might be because I saved the post noise added image so photoshop doesn't need to remember as much in it's history states.

Strangely, I am getting faster times on the 32bit than my original 64bit time so something might be wrong

Jul 10, 2009 at 05:51 PM
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under 1 minute!!!

small disclaimer: that is, under 1 minute for it to fail and tell me there's not enough RAM

2 GHz cpu, 2 GB of ram, laptop

Jul 10, 2009 at 06:12 PM
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Okay, I just did a bunch of tests and here are the results:



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Very odd to me that I am getting better times with 32bit.
I also found that because "add noise" is random there is slight difference in processing times (a few seconds) between each different noise added images. The trials above were done with the same noise added image (saved and loaded the same image).

Note: I also had a erroneous run with 32bit using OS harddrive as scratch disk. It had a time of 2:48.6 but was repated 3 times and all these trials showed approximately 2:38-2:39

Jul 10, 2009 at 06:40 PM
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Hammy wrote:
- Core i7 Extreme 965: $1000

- 12 gb: $500


Yeah, that $1,000 vs a 920 at $265 is pricey. I usually hang back at least taht amount - to the 920 - or a quad.

Unemployed now though, so I just let it go ...


Go price 24 Gb of DDR3 RAM though - about $2,800! Steep premium for the 4Gb sticks over the 2Gb.


I too find that I usually can't build a box with an OS that I have to buy for less than Dell prices.

Have fun!

Cheers,
M.

Jul 10, 2009 at 06:44 PM
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Weiyang Liu wrote:
I'll start off:
PC - i7 920 @ 4.33 Ghz w/ 6GB Ram @ 1648Mhz - Benchmark: 3:02


Ten days later - after somebody with a better system that is NOT overclocked, but better components overall that posts a legit time of 2:42 using 64bit software, and almost a minute LESS using 32bit software

Weiyang Liu wrote:
Okay, I just did a bunch of tests and here are the results:

...all these trials showed approximately 2:38-2:39
(and 3:12 for 64bit)



So what got upgraded in the past 10 days to get 25 seconds FASTER in 32bit?
or what got degraded to get 10 seconds SLOWER in 64bit?

Or is it just convenient that re-running the tests put you back as the fastest in this FM poll?



Jul 10, 2009 at 09:09 PM
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I'm really actually impressed with the OC results that the OP stated. I haven't seriously tried to do that - made a couple of attempts and, well, thank goodness EVGA motherboards have reset button - that's all that needs be saiid about that...
Anyway, that's pretty impressive. One of the reasons I went with thfe Intel 965 was it was significantly overclockable, where I had read that the 920/940 processors were "locked." Turns out that lots of people are having success doing that. Cool. I actually don't have a lot of time to play, so I wanted something that just worked and was really fast...
I also had NO experience with water cooling and wasn't sure how effective it would be. My last (air cooled) Dell P4 was so noisey and ran so hot that I was determined not to have that problem again. Turns out that this case is really, um, cool - pun intended. I've got 2 ssd's, 2 1TB drives, a water cooled graphics card, a 1KW Zalman power supply (that is itself very quiet), and a sound card - all running dead quiet, very acceptable temps (36 degrees C as I write this here in Los Angeles), and I'm encouraged that WHEN I feel the need for more speed, I can take the system up to the 4ghz region and be ok. If I sort out the OC thing.
I will probably be driven to do that because of HD video editing. I have a Sony HD camera, and the 5DII -- those files are just plain huge, and the overhead of the AVCHD format is obnoxious. Even on my (yes, insane) system, I get a little stuttering of video from time to time. Grrrr. Probably will go to something like Cineform Neoscene to manage the files... not a need today, but soon.
So --- CUDOS to the successful overclockers! I'm envious and in awe! I may be asking for help soon to OC my system!

Larry



Jul 11, 2009 at 06:18 AM
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