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Jim Schemel
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p.1 #1 · Post your best Zeiss 28mm and wider -


I am seriously considering a Zeiss 28mm or wider as my landscape lens and was just wanting to see some pictures taken with any .I will be using it on a 5D.Any other thoughts about the lenses is always appreciated.If possible can you please include camera settings
-Jim

Jun 21, 2009 at 08:44 PM
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The Distagon 2.8/28 is very well regarded. The 25mm is not that much. The 21mm lens is a legend! The 18mm is very nice too. My conclusion (reading things here and there) is that you can't go wrong with 21 (drool) or 28mm. Avoid 25mm and, if tempted by 18mm FL, gues what I'll say? Go Zuiko!

Jun 21, 2009 at 09:00 PM
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alexandre,
Thank you for your input.Very helpful.
Any Zeiss pictures out there? i know you got and want to share em lets see em
-Jim

Jun 21, 2009 at 09:58 PM
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Here is one (C/Y AE J) 28/2.8, ISO 3200 on 5D2. The 28 has better corner resolution than the 35. Careful, there is copy variation; I had to buy 2 to get a good one. It might be because I went the cheapo route though ($100). CZ 25 is supposedly soft and 21 too expensive, so I am on Zuiko for wider than 28.


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Jun 21, 2009 at 10:10 PM
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Let's be clear about what we are talking about. We should distinguish between Zeiss lenses for Contax and Zeiss ZF/ZE/ZK series lenses.

The Zeiss Contax 25/2.8 has a bit of reputation for being a bit soft. However, there are many people who just love this lens. Color and contrast are exceptional and it produces absolutely lovely images,

The Zeiss ZF 25.2.8 is very sharp and is a distinct improvement over the older Contax 25mm. It produces lovely images with great color and bokeh.



Jun 21, 2009 at 11:07 PM
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Lotusm50,
Thank you for the details this is the kind of info i am looking for.
-Jim

Jun 21, 2009 at 11:09 PM
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Here are some with the ZF21, taken from f/8-f/16 on a D700.

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The ZF21 is edge to edge fantastic, just larger than I'd like. It replaced the ZF25. The ZF25 was very good, but has a lot of field curvature so the extreme corners are often soft. Very close focusing for versatility though.

Jun 21, 2009 at 11:20 PM
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Valorin,
Thanks for posting.Quick question.Was the distortion on the 25 easily fixed in PP?
-Jim

Jun 21, 2009 at 11:22 PM
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I didn't notice any geometric distortion on the ZF25. From what I know it has mild barrel distortion, but usually not enough to be a problem. The field curvature I was talking about means that the focus 'plane' curves away from the center of the image. For landscapes this sometimes means that getting everything in focus can be a bit more difficult than with other lenses.

Jun 21, 2009 at 11:33 PM
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Valorin,
Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me.Very helpful
-Jim

Jun 21, 2009 at 11:39 PM
 



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I've been waiting for the ZE21 to come out i might replace my 17-40 with it.

Jun 22, 2009 at 12:02 AM
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Zeiss 28 on 1Ds2, F8 I believe



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Jun 22, 2009 at 02:47 AM
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Thank You Daniel, very nice.
-Jim

Jun 22, 2009 at 02:49 AM
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ZF 28/2 on a D700. F11, 1/160s.

Jun 22, 2009 at 05:38 AM
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The C/Y 28/2.8 is easily one of my favourite lenses. It's comparatively very cheap ($250~$300), it's small and light, and the image quality is excellent.

5D, 28/2.8 @ f/8 or f/11, 4 pics, landscape orientation


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Jun 22, 2009 at 07:23 AM
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Has anyone directly compared the CY 28/2.8 to the Nikon Ai-s 28/2.8?

I haven't, but from the various pics I've seen online, my Nikon is equal to or possibly nicer than the Zeiss. Both are incredibly sharp, corner-to-corner, both have pretty low distortion, and both are slightly lacking in color saturation.

Man, would I love to see a comparison.
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Separate question: Alex mentions above a C/Y AE J 28/2.8. What is this? All I ever see are "T" versions. Different lens?

Aug 10, 2009 at 05:52 AM
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Cableaddict wrote:
Has anyone directly compared the CY 28/2.8 to the Nikon Ai-s 28/2.8?

I haven't, but from the various pics I've seen online, my Nikon is equal to or possibly nicer than the Zeiss.


Pics, please.

Both are incredibly sharp, corner-to-corner, both have pretty low distortion, and both are slightly lacking in color saturation.

C/Y 28/2.8 center sharpness doesn't really change that much from wide open to stopped down, but the corners improve dramatically by f/8. Center sharpness is excellent, and corner sharpness is very good. The corners will show CA in high-contrast situations.

There is no way the C/Y 28/2.8 is lacking in colour saturation. I've owned a few copies of this lens (can't seem to get it out of my system), and it has the Zeiss colour signature all over it: inky blacks, excellent tonality, the images just pop.

Separate question: Alex mentions above a C/Y AE J 28/2.8. What is this? All I ever see are "T" versions. Different lens?

AE = mount construction
J = Made in Japan
T* = lens coating

C/Y lenses come in two basic flavours: AE and MM. You can use only Av and M modes with AE lenses, whereas you can use Av, Tv, M, and P modes with MM lenses. Of course this is only relevant if you're using a C/Y mount camera. The counterpart to "J" is "G", or Made in Germany. A given C/Y lens might be AEG, AEJ, MMG, or MMJ. I think that's all there is. I've only ever used MMJ lenses, and of course the famous Distagon 21/2.8 only ever came in MMJ.

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Aug 10, 2009 at 06:13 AM
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Cableaddict wrote:
Has anyone directly compared the CY 28/2.8 to the Nikon Ai-s 28/2.8?

I haven't, but from the various pics I've seen online, my Nikon is equal to or possibly nicer than the Zeiss. Both are incredibly sharp, corner-to-corner, both have pretty low distortion, and both are slightly lacking in color saturation.

Man, would I love to see a comparison.
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I did a comparison a few years ago though it is not available on the net. I had the 28/2.8 Ais for many years and, yes it is a great lens and very good close up. At close range I think it is slightly better than the Contax 28/2.8, but that is just at close quarters.

The Nikkor is a very fine lens but the Contax, when stopped down to f8/f11 has more snap and microcontrast. On color I would say the Contax lens has an edge though the Nikkor is no slouch. If I get the time I could scan some photos taken with both.

I can recommend both, though be aware that the Nikkor has to be the very latest Ai-S, the older ones are not as good.

Aug 10, 2009 at 06:22 AM
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I believe the better Nikkor 28/2.8 AIS focuses to 0.2m...I have the 28/2 Nikkor AIS, also very nice rendition, but a little heavier and larger; sadly quite lot more expensive, the price is rising since the Nikon FFs appeared. The CY 28/2.8 I just bought for its stopped down performance at medium distances and the 3D look I read about here - it is reputedly very good at f8-f11, after which diffraction begins to steal from you on the large Mp cameras in any case.

The 25ZF gets much less flattering reviews than the 28ZF, despite reportedly high field curvature in the 28ZF. Photozone reports (perhaps unacceptable) corners, which pick up just as the centre falls off, at f8 or so. The wide ZFs are also quite large and heavy, comparatively. Zeiss is fertilising many of their latest lenses ;-)

Maybe some useful info here: http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/604223

Aug 11, 2009 at 08:08 AM
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Contax Distagon 21MM 2.8 on 5D Mk2 (I Love this lens!)



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Same lens on 50D



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