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p.2 #1 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


OMG FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!! I'm so happy! This is going to rock!


May 26, 2009 at 08:58 PM
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Stephen W wrote:
Wow, that's probably the BIGGEST thing that had been keeping me from buying a 5d2. Now I'm really salivating.

Do you think Canon can offer a firmware patch to improve the AF too?


The 5d Mk2 autofocus is just fine, would I like to bolt the AF from my IDsMk3 into it, yes, but if you buy you will be happy.



May 26, 2009 at 09:01 PM
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Stephen W wrote:
Wow, that's probably the BIGGEST thing that had been keeping me from buying a 5d2. Now I'm really salivating.

Do you think Canon can offer a firmware patch to improve the AF too?



The AF is mostly hardware (cross type sensors as opposed normal sensors), so no, it'll never be updated. I still have 0 complaints about the AF on my 5d2, though. It's never let me down, and I've owned a 1d2 and 1d3.



May 26, 2009 at 09:04 PM
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p.2 #4 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


So does manual control of shutter speed mean 24fps if we want it, or....?


May 26, 2009 at 09:05 PM
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p.2 #5 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


Extremely brief press release, no mention of 24fps, but we will have to wait for more information. My opinion is that 30fps remains as is.


May 26, 2009 at 09:07 PM
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WilliamG wrote:
So does manual control of shutter speed mean 24fps if we want it, or....?


Okay, someone please explain to me the difference between 24fps ("true" video) and 30fps (what virtually ALL point-shoot cameras and DSLRs have)?



May 26, 2009 at 09:09 PM
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Seth Tower wrote:
Okay, someone please explain to me the difference between 24fps ("true" video) and 30fps (what virtually ALL point-shoot cameras and DSLRs have)?



If I remember right, the d90 shoots 1080p but at only 24 fps, which means some fairly choppy video. The Canon Rebel T1i shoots 1080p at 20 fps which is even worse.

I really see no benefit to go with 24 fps besides more compatibility with software during editing, but I have no problem editing 5d2 video now in Premier Pro. I have a few presets setup that make it very easy.



May 26, 2009 at 09:24 PM
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WilliamG wrote:
So does manual control of shutter speed mean 24fps if we want it, or....?


Shutter speed and Frames per second are 2 separate things. I doubt it'll add 24fps via firmware. Still EXCELLENT NEWS.. very pleased by the announcement.



May 26, 2009 at 09:27 PM
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Film look versus video look, PAL standard (rest of world) versus NTSC. I am sure this has been discussed to death here but I don't have the link at hand so I will leave it to someone else to help. HD 30FPS works just fine for me and my purposes but others have some issues, real or perceived.


May 26, 2009 at 09:27 PM
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intrinsyc value of 5dmk2 just went up by $200
many were spending at least that much to get around the aperture lock



May 26, 2009 at 09:33 PM
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davenfl wrote:
Extremely brief press release, no mention of 24fps, but we will have to wait for more information. My opinion is that 30fps remains as is.


Likely. Most of this debate is, IMO, over blown.

If you are shooting with your end result being a computer screen, then 30fps is a lot better viewing experience. If you are shooting for a "film like quality" there are plenty of options to convert that video down to 24p, but its much harder to up convert to 30p. I personally would love it if Canon offered 60p, then you have a lot of extra frames to use for a slo-mo effect. That stuff can be fun.

In short, Canon is unlikely to offer a 24p mode, only a portion of the market cares enough and they can always make the down conversion.



May 26, 2009 at 09:34 PM
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A whole lot more than $200 was being spent to fix the problem. I would say that your statement vastly underrates the expenditure to fix the problem for those people really into video. Lots and lots of adapters and non Eos lens were purchased.


May 26, 2009 at 09:36 PM
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Kevin Sherman wrote:
Likely. Most of this debate is, IMO, over blown.

If you are shooting with your end result being a computer screen, then 30fps is a lot better viewing experience. If you are shooting for a "film like quality" there are plenty of options to convert that video down to 24p, but its much harder to up convert to 30p. I personally would love it if Canon offered 60p, then you have a lot of extra frames to use for a slo-mo effect. That stuff can be fun.

In short, Canon is unlikely to offer a 24p mode, only a
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+1 for my purposes Kevin.



May 26, 2009 at 09:39 PM
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p.2 #14 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


I wanted to buy an MF 50 mm lens and an MF macro lens thinking it would be useful for video, Ilm glad that I haven't. Now I hope that I';d be able to get the firmware before I'll need to use the video feature.


May 26, 2009 at 09:47 PM
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davenfl wrote:
A whole lot more than $200 was being spent to fix the problem. I would say that your statement vastly underrates the expenditure to fix the problem for those people really into video. Lots and lots of adapters and non Eos lens were purchased.


I was being conservative. I was thinking singh ray/manual lens. But i agree. Im sure that should at least support, maybe even boost used prices a little at least for another year. Canon really unlocked a ton of value here me think.

Get in while you can - used <$2300 right now



May 26, 2009 at 09:49 PM
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Navyblue wrote:
I wanted to buy an MF 50 mm lens and an MF macro lens thinking it would be useful for video, Ilm glad that I haven't. Now I hope that I';d be able to get the firmware before I'll need to use the video feature.


Available for download June 2nd per the press release.



May 26, 2009 at 09:51 PM
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davenfl wrote:
A whole lot more than $200 was being spent to fix the problem .... Lots and lots of adapters and non Eos lens were purchased.


I’m willing to bet this was Canons main motivation for the update, and not so much the user’s needs.



May 26, 2009 at 09:53 PM
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What? A firmware (A legal one anyways) that adds features to an existing Canon Camera? Did heads roll at Canon HQ recently? I cannot recall this ever happening before.

With Nikon, yes, quite often! With Canon, this has to be a first!

I hope this isnt a one and done type of deal.


johnny



May 26, 2009 at 09:56 PM
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p.2 #19 · update 5dMk2 Full Manual Video Control


^^ my guess is the rumors about the 5D2 being rushed to market because of the D90 was true.


May 26, 2009 at 10:00 PM
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Yianni wrote:
What? A firmware (A legal one anyways) that adds features to an existing Canon Camera? Did heads roll at Canon HQ recently? I cannot recall this ever happening before.


By the same token, they have never released a camera which enticed users to buy non-canon lenses.

Ya gotta love it when a large corporation shoots it’s self in the foot.





May 26, 2009 at 10:05 PM
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