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ND-Filter in 82mm

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p.1 #1 · ND-Filter in 82mm

I'm looking for a dark ND-Filter (1.8-3.0 / 6-10 Bl. / 64-1000x) in 82mm.
The problem is the combination of 82mm and dark.
Neither B+W nor Heliopan seems to have anything in that size.
Can anybody help?

Best regards,

Boris

Apr 19, 2009 at 11:59 AM

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p.1 #2 · ND-Filter in 82mm

you are going to have to custom order a filter from Singh-Ray for one of the larger rectangular filter systems. they may custom make one for you in 82mm too. otherwise, if you are shooting not too wide, you can stack a pair of 3 stop ones but that is as much as i would ever stack. two filters, even multicoated, has so much greater increased chance of flare.

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Apr 19, 2009 at 12:17 PM

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p.1 #3 · ND-Filter in 82mm

Thanks for the answer, but Singh-Ray is very difficult to get in germany. Does LEE make dark ND-filter (I have allready a LEE filter system, but would prefer a ND glass filter)? What about Hoya?
Stacking is no option since I plan to use the filter on 21mm and 24mm lenses.

Boris

Apr 19, 2009 at 07:33 PM

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p.1 #4 · ND-Filter in 82mm

it's not going to be anymore difficult to get than what you want. No one makes a 8+ stop ND filter in 82mm. B/W used to and Hoya may still but not in 82mm

Apr 19, 2009 at 09:24 PM

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p.1 #5 · ND-Filter in 82mm

Lee suggests you stack their 3 stop filters. i don't like that solution because of light leaks from the sides.

Herb...

Bobu wrote:
Thanks for the answer, but Singh-Ray is very difficult to get in germany. Does LEE make dark ND-filter (I have allready a LEE filter system, but would prefer a ND glass filter)? What about Hoya?

Apr 20, 2009 at 04:59 PM

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p.1 #6 · ND-Filter in 82mm

Stacking several resin-filter is not the best idea to improve your image quality.

I just wrote emails to B+W and Heliopan, asking them, whether they can make a 1.8-3.0 ND filter in 82mm on custom order.

Boris

Apr 20, 2009 at 05:40 PM

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p.1 #7 · ND-Filter in 82mm

as a favor, I've confirmed w/ 2filter.com (one of the biggest importers of filters in the US) that they have nothing in stock and Schneider Optics (BW or Heliopan) stops at 77mm

Apr 20, 2009 at 06:48 PM

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p.1 #8 · ND-Filter in 82mm

Thanks for the info! By the way only B+W is part of Schneider Optics (Schneider Kreuznach), Heliopan is a different company, although both use glass from the german Shott-Group for some/most of their filters.

Boris

Apr 20, 2009 at 07:01 PM

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p.1 #9 · ND-Filter in 82mm

I think a square filter might be your only option. To be honest I find those filters to be a bit gimmicky (I have a 10 stop that I hardly ever use). I hope they will be a passing fad, I get sick of pooly composed long exposure shots

PS I enjoyed your photos of Scotland!

Apr 20, 2009 at 09:13 PM

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p.1 #10 · ND-Filter in 82mm

also, almost every time I use my BW 110 (8-9 stop), there is a colorshift toward amber so you'll want to perhaps have a test shot w/ grey card/whibal in it

Apr 20, 2009 at 10:39 PM

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p.1 #11 · ND-Filter in 82mm

so have you seen any well composed long exposure shots?

Herb...

Alex Nail wrote:
To be honest I find those filters to be a bit gimmicky (I have a 10 stop that I hardly ever use). I hope they will be a passing fad, I get sick of pooly composed long exposure shots

Apr 21, 2009 at 02:29 AM

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p.1 #12 · ND-Filter in 82mm

Hi-Tec makes a four stop filter that would fit your Lee holder, there is no advantage in glass over the plastic filters that I am aware of. Tiffen also makes glass 4x4 filters but they are probably very fragile.

Apr 21, 2009 at 04:11 AM

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p.1 #13 · ND-Filter in 82mm

davewolfs wrote:
Hi-Tec makes a four stop filter that would fit your Lee holder, there is no advantage in glass over the plastic filters that I am aware of. Tiffen also makes glass 4x4 filters but they are probably very fragile.

Actually, less fragile than resin, but about $450 each for the 4"x6" filters.

Apr 21, 2009 at 11:51 AM

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p.1 #14 · ND-Filter in 82mm

Today I got the answers from B+W and Heliopan. B+W does only make the ND 1.8 and 3.0 up to 77mm. But Heliopan can deliver ND 2.0 and 3.0 in 82mm for 115€ each (in slim). I ordered both today.

Thank's for all the answers,

Boris

Apr 21, 2009 at 05:02 PM

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p.1 #15 · ND-Filter in 82mm

lucky you, and not that expensive.

Herb...

Apr 21, 2009 at 06:15 PM

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p.1 #16 · ND-Filter in 82mm

One day later I found two nice ND filter from Heliopan in my letterbox. That's a perfect customer service!

Boris

Apr 23, 2009 at 05:05 PM

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p.1 #17 · ND-Filter in 82mm

You can buy the very same Heliopan filter here from B&H for $523. Must be the duty.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/21724-REG/Heliopan_708251_82mm_Center_ND_3x.html

Sep 18, 2009 at 01:54 AM

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p.1 #18 · ND-Filter in 82mm

Frank Kearney wrote:
You can buy the very same Heliopan filter here from B&H for $523. Must be the duty.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/21724-REG/Heliopan_708251_82mm_Center_ND_3x.html

That's not the same filter. This one has a 105mm front thread (and a 82mm rear thread). It ist build for extreme wide angles. But 523$ for this filter is still a ridiculous price. Mine has no front thread and the glass is only 82mm. This is an example with the ND 3.0 on my 24TSE II:

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Boris

Sep 18, 2009 at 05:25 AM

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p.1 #19 · ND-Filter in 82mm

I can't attest to quality or performance, but one of the one's I've been looking at is the lightcraftwrokshop.com ND Fader.

I'm not sure if it's dark enough for you and I've never used, but it's at least one more place to look.

Sep 18, 2009 at 05:09 PM

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p.1 #20 · ND-Filter in 82mm

Check my post at http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/820663/0#lastmessage. The Fader I have has very poor IQ. Defective or very poor quality? So far all I know is that I have a $109 filter that will not be used.

John

Nov 06, 2009 at 07:43 PM

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p.1 #21 · ND-Filter in 82mm

Boris, do you know if Heliopan will ship to the US? i find now that i also need a ND 2 and ND 3 filters in 82mm.

Herb...

Bobu wrote:
That's not the same filter. This one has a 105mm front thread (and a 82mm rear thread). It ist build for extreme wide angles. But 523$ for this filter is still a ridiculous price. Mine has no front thread and the glass is only 82mm.

Nov 06, 2009 at 08:15 PM

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p.1 #22 · ND-Filter in 82mm

Not the same league as Schott / Rodenstock glass, but here are Hoya MC filters in 82mm up to ND8 (0.9)

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Hoya-HMC-ND8-Neutral-Grey-0-9-ND-8x-Filter-82-82mm_W0QQitemZ380152669199QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCamera_Filters?hash=item5882dd640f#ht_2622wt_940

Nov 06, 2009 at 10:49 PM

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p.1 #23 · ND-Filter in 82mm

I'm surprised no one mentioned the Singh Ray Vari-ND as an option. I have the 82mm version. I find it to be a bit tricky to use toward the dark end, the 5 - 8 stop part of its 2 - 8 stop range. On wide shots, I would sometimes end up with a centre darker than the corners but shooting longer focal lengths allowed for more use of its range.

Nov 07, 2009 at 02:07 AM

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p.1 #24 · ND-Filter in 82mm

all of the filters we are talking about are denser than 0.9. we are talking 2.0 and 3.0 filters.

Herb...

TheHoff wrote:
Not the same league as Schott / Rodenstock glass, but here are Hoya MC filters in 82mm up to ND8 (0.9)

Nov 07, 2009 at 05:37 AM

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p.1 #25 · ND-Filter in 82mm

the Vari-ND Duo, which is the one i now have, barely makes 5 stops and has uneven density at that level. the Vari-ND without the Duo is useless because it doesn't have a CPL for reflection control. i've been disappointed in all of the VariND filters i have owned over the years because of these problems. the times i can use them are times when there are simpler solutions that yield higher quality results.

Herb....

Brad K wrote:
I'm surprised no one mentioned the Singh Ray Vari-ND as an option. I have the 82mm version. I find it to be a bit tricky to use toward the dark end, the 5 - 8 stop part of its 2 - 8 stop range. On wide shots, I would sometimes end up with a centre darker than the corners but shooting longer focal lengths allowed for more use of its range.

Nov 07, 2009 at 05:40 AM


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