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Sarah Salyer
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p.1 #1 · is this crazy?

Or is it just me. I always post the pictures from each wedding in an online gallery, I think most of us do this. It's the first thing I do when I am done editing pics. I finish them in lightroom then export one set in websize then another set in fullsize. then I go right ahead and burn the DVDs and load them to the site. The bride gets the password and she can give it to whoever she wants. I want the bride to see the pictures first since it's their wedding and they usually feel the same way.

I did a wedding on the 4th, they left the wedding and gt on plane came back the next Sunday. While they were away the grooms sister sent me an email and asked me for the password. I waited until Monday to send it to her. Well when the grooms mother picked them up from the airport she told them that the sister and her sat down and typed in numerous passwords until they got theirs right! They hacked into her wedding pictures! How rude is that! The bride came over last night to view her album design and pick up her proofs and was almost in tears while telling me this!

So I guess now I should wait until they are home from their honeymoon before I load them, what do you guys do?

Apr 16, 2009 at 12:10 PM

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p.1 #2 · is this crazy?

Yes, it is crazy....maybe just pick a stronger password next time. People don't suprise me anymore.

Apr 16, 2009 at 12:15 PM

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p.1 #3 · is this crazy?

Curiosity runs deep. Keep it locked down until it's time to release them. Lesson learned.

Apr 16, 2009 at 12:17 PM

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p.1 #4 · is this crazy?

i try to give easy passwords so people won't forget them... lesson learned!

Apr 16, 2009 at 12:21 PM

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p.1 #5 · is this crazy?

Nice to know they are nostalgic for a 200 hours ago.

Apr 16, 2009 at 01:15 PM

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p.1 #6 · is this crazy?

That's the problem, if you make the password too strong, then grandma can't get in to see them and you get phone calls asking you to remove the password anyway.

People usually have internet where they honeymoon, they could've seen them first if they wanted.

Apr 16, 2009 at 01:19 PM

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p.1 #7 · is this crazy?

The problem is not with you it's with the grooms sister.

Apr 16, 2009 at 01:27 PM

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p.1 #8 · is this crazy?

Depends on who wrote the check: bride&groom or his mother?

If the answer is NOT "groom's mother", then:
Send them a letter, preferably via an attorney, telling them that hacking to your web site is a criminal act (maybe federal criminal act, surely it's considered criminal at the international level). And that there's no difference if they sit and type passwords manually or run a cracking software (witch is just like typing different passwords really fast) - cracking is cracking.

Probably they're not super-crackers and that they did it believing it was innocent ("I just wanted to see my son's photos...") - so you don't have to follow-up on it (like court, police complaint and stuff) but it will scare her and teach her a lesson (it is, after all, a crime and she admitted to it).

But, most importantly, it'll show the bride that you're taking this seriously. You can't reverse this but you can make her feel better.

Eli

Apr 16, 2009 at 01:31 PM

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p.1 #9 · is this crazy?

elikag wrote:
Depends on who wrote the check: bride&groom or his mother?

If the answer is NOT "groom's mother", then:
Send them a letter, preferably via an attorney, telling them that hacking to your web site is a criminal act (maybe federal criminal act, surely it's considered criminal at the international level). And that there's no difference if they sit and type passwords manually or run a cracking software (witch is just like typing different passwords really fast) - cracking is cracking.

Probably they're not super-crackers and that they did it believing it was innocent ("I just wanted to see my son's photos...") - so you don't have to follow-up on it (like court, police complaint and stuff) but it will scare her and teach her a lesson (it is, after all, a crime and she admitted to it).

But, most importantly, it'll show the bride that you're taking this seriously. You can't reverse this but you can make her feel better.

Eli

Wow... I guess I'd recommend NOT doing this...

Apr 16, 2009 at 01:34 PM

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Brian Mullins wrote:
The problem is not with you it's with the grooms sister.

Couldn't agree more. You should not change what you do, it makes things more complicated. The password was obviously something common or relating to the family in someway. If you make it a bit more personal, ie, between you and the couple, like the name of the coffeeshop you first met, then it is easy to remember and harder to bruteforce.

Still, damn cheek!

Apr 16, 2009 at 01:35 PM

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mcarr wrote:
elikag wrote:
Depends on who wrote the check: bride&groom or his mother?

If the answer is NOT "groom's mother", then:
Send them a letter, preferably via an attorney, telling them that hacking to your web site is a criminal act (maybe federal criminal act, surely it's considered criminal at the international level). And that there's no difference if they sit and type passwords manually or run a cracking software (witch is just like typing different passwords really fast) - cracking is cracking.

Probably they're not super-crackers and that they did it believing it was innocent ("I just wanted to see my son's photos...") - so you don't have to follow-up on it (like court, police complaint and stuff) but it will scare her and teach her a lesson (it is, after all, a crime and she admitted to it).

But, most importantly, it'll show the bride that you're taking this seriously. You can't reverse this but you can make her feel better.

Eli

Wow... I guess I'd recommend NOT doing this...

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wow, just wow.

You can still make a password hard to guess but easy to remember, "mikeandjane75" not easy to guess not hard to remember.

....and again don't call the feds on the family member, sheesh!

Apr 16, 2009 at 01:45 PM

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Brian Mullins wrote:
The problem is not with you it's with the grooms sister.

Absolutely... How rude is that..?

Might try and not tell anyone that they are even online until the bride and groom have the link?

Sounds like you did everything right.. But it sux for you and the bride..

Apr 16, 2009 at 01:48 PM

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p.1 #13 · is this crazy?

Just create a 'Working' folder or a private gallery when you want to, then make it public when you're ready to. Zenfolio does this, I'm assuming most other programs do the same.

Apr 16, 2009 at 01:49 PM

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p.1 #14 · is this crazy?

Wowzers.. I am at a loss.. Talk about creating a rift in the family.. Legal action? C-mon...

Apr 16, 2009 at 01:52 PM

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p.1 #15 · is this crazy?

bummer, you know what though - my wife and I have family members who would do the same thing to us...

Apr 16, 2009 at 02:29 PM

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p.1 #16 · is this crazy?

Can you make the folder unlisted? You can in smugmug - then change the listing status afterward. I guess you never would have thought of that before - didn't seem necessary! It is a bummer. I remember my parents opening my acceptance letter to college before I got home. I only applied to one school. Not the end of the world, but kind of a bummer.

Apr 16, 2009 at 02:56 PM

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p.1 #17 · is this crazy?

Sam Obeid wrote:
mcarr wrote:
elikag wrote:
Depends on who wrote the check: bride&groom or his mother?

If the answer is NOT "groom's mother", then:
Send them a letter, preferably via an attorney, telling them that hacking to your web site is a criminal act (maybe federal criminal act, surely it's considered criminal at the international level). And that there's no difference if they sit and type passwords manually or run a cracking software (witch is just like typing different passwords really fast) - cracking is cracking.

Probably they're not super-crackers and that they did it believing it was innocent ("I just wanted to see my son's photos...") - so you don't have to follow-up on it (like court, police complaint and stuff) but it will scare her and teach her a lesson (it is, after all, a crime and she admitted to it).

But, most importantly, it'll show the bride that you're taking this seriously. You can't reverse this but you can make her feel better.

Eli

Wow... I guess I'd recommend NOT doing this...

+1

wow, just wow.

You can still make a password hard to guess but easy to remember, "mikeandjane75" not easy to guess not hard to remember.

....and again don't call the feds on the family member, sheesh!

No, no I didn't mean her to call the feds, just a letter....

YMMV.
Eli

P.S. on second thought the attorney thing is overkill.

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Apr 16, 2009 at 03:24 PM

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p.1 #18 · is this crazy?

I wouldn't do anything different. Not your issue.
I imagine the people who hacked in did not stop to think that the bride might want to see them first.

Apr 16, 2009 at 03:28 PM

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p.1 #19 · is this crazy?

I do not see the problem - it is natural for people to be very anxious to see the pictures: some people are more anxious than others. Password guessing is a far cry from what one might consider hacking.

I hope the bride, her mom and in-laws liked the pictures.

Apr 16, 2009 at 03:37 PM

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p.1 #20 · is this crazy?

RedWhiteandRed wrote:
I do not see the problem - it is natural for people to be very anxious to see the pictures: some people are more anxious than others. Password guessing is a far cry from what one might consider hacking.

I hope the bride, her mom and in-laws liked the pictures.

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These things happen so rarely that I wouldn't even worry about it. My password is the grooms last name. Who know the guy, can see the pictures. Never been a problem. If they want something stronger, they can choose to make it stronger. Shooting weddings I noticed that some brides cry a lot, sometimes for no reason at all. So I wouldn't even worry about it. You did your job, family affairs are not supposed to bother you.

-Victor

Apr 16, 2009 at 04:34 PM

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p.1 #21 · is this crazy?

i had things like that happen before..so now I make a temporary password of simple fast keys strokes... like "eiveslje", (they arent ever gonna guess that!)
then when its time for them to actually view, I change the password to something normal & easy to remember.

Apr 16, 2009 at 05:02 PM

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p.1 #22 · is this crazy?

I also use a "nonsense" password.

Dave

Apr 16, 2009 at 06:45 PM

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p.1 #23 · is this crazy?

I just don't make the gallery public (as in someone else besides me seeing it) till the couple are ready to see it.

Apr 16, 2009 at 07:15 PM

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p.1 #24 · is this crazy?

You did not do anything wrong, and do not need to change anything. Although if there is a simple way to make sure the couple are the first to see the photos, do it.

There is often drama and control issues surrounding weddings. Boy from one family marries girl from another family. Girl and her Mom plan wedding. Groom's Mom or other family members feel excluded, or think they need to push for their "rights". Bride feels threatened by anything Grooms Mom does.
I'd bet it's something along those lines.
As Red says, family wants to see pictures, should be a good thing. While I do not condone what the MOG and SOG did, I don't think running to you in tears is a balanced response either.
FWIW, my in laws had shared the "official" photos from my wedding with about 100 of their friends, ect, by the time I got back from our honeymoon. I don't remember being upset, or making a deal about it, but 30 years later I DO remember that it happened, so it must have annoyed me on some level.

Apr 16, 2009 at 09:49 PM

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p.1 #25 · is this crazy?

I don't use any passwords.

Apr 17, 2009 at 01:00 AM


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