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p.2 #1 · Review: Feisol CT-3442 tripod, Photoclam PC-40NS ballhead


coffeestain wrote:
Thanks for the 'review'. After looking at Gitzos for a few months, I decided to buy this exact set-up from reallybigcameras. I'll put it through its paces over the next few days, but for now the appearance of the tripod and ballhead look very nice. Time will tell.


I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

Mine has been going strong since I bought it, and I take it everywhere. I've hiked on LOOONG day hikes, put it in salt water, sand, dust, etc, and I haven't had a problem yet.


Jun 25, 2009 at 10:40 PM
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p.2 #2 · Review: Feisol CT-3442 tripod, Photoclam PC-40NS ballhead


Does any one have the smaller PC-30N or PC-33NS, and can you compare them to a Bogen 488 ballhead? I would love to fit the ballhead AND tripod in the Feisol supplied bag (I currently have a 3441 non-S).

Great review, by the way. Very nice setup and pics.

Jun 27, 2009 at 03:43 AM
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p.2 #3 · Review: Feisol CT-3442 tripod, Photoclam PC-40NS ballhead


I read your review here and there but I went with the 3342. I stuck with what I was used to (3 legs) being that I have the Manfrotto 055xprob but this one is 2.27lbs vs 5.07lbs plus it folds down a little more than 2" than the Manfrotto. I was concerned that the 3442's fourth leg would introduce some vibration. I compared the leg diameters and the Manfrotto top one is thicker than the 3342s but the other legs weren't. Btw, I photo mainly wildlife and use a Jo Bu gimbal head, flash bracket, 580 II and flash extender...1D3, 400 5.6, 1.4.

Thanks for the info. everyone

What's your thoughts on the tripod now that you've had it awhile?

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Nov 21, 2009 at 10:18 PM
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p.2 #4 · Review: Feisol CT-3442 tripod, Photoclam PC-40NS ballhead


Great Review! Thanks for the info.

Nov 22, 2009 at 01:37 AM
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p.2 #5 · Review: Feisol CT-3442 tripod, Photoclam PC-40NS ballhead


Excellent review.

I'm curious, if you didn't have the center column kit, it would obviously reach lower to the ground (6.3" for the 3442 or 7.1" for the 3342. Would the ballhead still fit between the legs? It looks like it might, but I am not sure whether the leg wrapping would force the legs wider.

Nov 22, 2009 at 09:59 AM
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p.2 #6 · Review: Feisol CT-3442 tripod, Photoclam PC-40NS ballhead


greeneggs wrote:
Excellent review.

I'm curious, if you didn't have the center column kit, it would obviously reach lower to the ground (6.3" for the 3442 or 7.1" for the 3342. Would the ballhead still fit between the legs? It looks like it might, but I am not sure whether the leg wrapping would force the legs wider.


Yes, it still fits perfectly. I take my centre column out frequently for low ground work and I've had no issues folding it up after this. The only "small" problem is that it's harder to twist the panning lock b/c it's so close to the base, whereas the CCKit raises it up and give you room to put your fingers on it a little easier. That being said, I never hesitate to do this.

Nov 23, 2009 at 10:11 PM
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Great Review MrGreen, your review is a great help for people like me who are trying to buy a tripod set but aren't sure what to buy.

after reading your reivew I am almost certain that I would buy the same set up that you have, but was wonding if you have had any sort of issues with your tripod and the head over this period of time. also what do you think about the Induro CT214 is it worth considering.

thanks


Jan 07, 2010 at 08:05 AM
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p.2 #8 · Review: Feisol CT-3442 tripod, Photoclam PC-40NS ballhead


Excellent review, and I'm glad to see all the good points, as I'm about to get a 3472LV.

I was slightly concerned about leg rotation, but no so any more. Plus the 3472 has much larger diameter legs, so they should twist even less, due to more surface area.

The only thing I don't like about the PC heads is where they put the level. Being on the side, it makes the larger level work for fore-aft leveling, when horizontal is really more important. That's rather picky, but why didn't they put the level on the front?

Well, Thanks.

Jan 07, 2010 at 10:19 AM
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p.2 #9 · Review: Feisol CT-3442 tripod, Photoclam PC-40NS ballhead


I now use the 3342 to support my Jo Bu Pro Gimbal head and 500L. I'm satisfied.

Jan 07, 2010 at 10:28 PM
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kevdav wrote:
Great Review MrGreen, your review is a great help for people like me who are trying to buy a tripod set but aren't sure what to buy.

after reading your reivew I am almost certain that I would buy the same set up that you have, but was wonding if you have had any sort of issues with your tripod and the head over this period of time. also what do you think about the Induro CT214 is it worth considering.

thanks


Glad you liked my review. I wrote it from the point of view of someone just like you because I too was in your boat once.

First off, let me just start with I have been very happy with my tripod thus far and I do not for one second regret buying it. The tripod has worked very well for me and has afforded me many opportunities for photo taking that my old one never would have allowed for. It's great.

That said, yes I have had an issue with it. I had one of the upper leg locks completely become unglued from the carbon fiber tube. Sounds pretty bad, but really it's not. This happened about 6 months or so into owning it, so it was still well under warranty and "fairly new." I could post the pictures I took of it, but honestly it really wasn't a big deal. Nothing to freak out about either way.

I contacted the store I bought it from and was given the option to send it back for repair free of charge, or they'd give me instructions on how to repair it myself so that I could keep using it and not have any down time. I opted for the latter because I use my tripod A LOT! Hey, that's what I bought it for after all. Fixing it was pretty damn easy actually. All that was required was assembling the shims in a certain order and then super gluing the main threaded lock piece back onto the tube, wait overnight for it to cure and it was ready to go again.

Other than that I've had no issues with my tripod and would still buy another Feisol. Stuff happens and nothing is perfect as you know. I've read about the fabled Gitzos failing and needing to be repaired too. I believe this was a rare, or uncommon case at the least as I haven't heard of this happening much at all.

As for Induro I disregarded them when I was looking around for my tripod because they offered nothing in their product line that met the specifications that "I" needed. I'm sure they're a good company as many people use them, but I myself have no experience with them. All I know is the Feisol worked out to be perfect for me. Size, weight and the price were exactly what I wanted.

Cableaddict wrote:
Excellent review, and I'm glad to see all the good points, as I'm about to get a 3472LV.

I was slightly concerned about leg rotation, but no so any more. Plus the 3472 has much larger diameter legs, so they should twist even less, due to more surface area.

The only thing I don't like about the PC heads is where they put the level. Being on the side, it makes the larger level work for fore-aft leveling, when horizontal is really more important. That's rather picky, but why didn't they put the level on the front?

Well, Thanks.


As for issues with my ball head - NONE. The Photo Clam has been astoundingly solid and flawless. I think any hesitation on people's part because they're "new and untested" should be completely disregarded now. They've been around for many years now and many people have used them to the extent where they can vehemently say they are awesome.

I've used two PC heads now (you can search for both reviews) and I really, really, REALLY like these heads.

I don't abuse mine by any means, but I most certainly do not baby it. I take it hiking all the time, it gets dirty A LOT, wet A LOT, and pretty much anything else A LOT! I've never cleaned it and thus far after heavy use it's still smooth as butter, locks tight and solid, and works like it did when I first bought it.

Photo Clam heads are AWESOME. There I said it.

Oh ya, about the level I would agree. It's not in the best spot, but it is useful. I've used mine a couple times, but for the most part I never level off the head because I shoot at very wide focal lengths and point the camera in odd directions.

Jan 11, 2010 at 03:16 AM
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p.2 #11 · Review: Feisol CT-3442 tripod, Photoclam PC-40NS ballhead


MrGreen,

Thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my comments. You have convinced my into buying the tripod and the head, the same set up that you have.
I will post my thoughts on them when I get them

thanks again

Jan 11, 2010 at 06:07 AM
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p.2 #12 · Review: Feisol CT-3442 tripod, Photoclam PC-40NS ballhead


I was about to buy the Feisol CT-3442 tripod with the photo clam PC-40NS, but then I saw an add on craigslist on the used but in very good condition Gitzo GT2540 + Markins Q-ball Q3 Emille ballhead + Markins TB-20 stabilization base for $650, is this a good deal.


Jan 12, 2010 at 04:22 AM
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p.2 #13 · Review: Feisol CT-3442 tripod, Photoclam PC-40NS ballhead


kevdav wrote:
I was about to buy the Feisol CT-3442 tripod with the photo clam PC-40NS, but then I saw an add on craigslist on the used but in very good condition Gitzo GT2540 + Markins Q-ball Q3 Emille ballhead + Markins TB-20 stabilization base for $650, is this a good deal.


I'm not familiar with pricing on those items. I'd suggest seeing what the retail prices are for all, add them up and see what kind of a percentage discount you'd be paying used.

Personally, I wouldn't pay more than 60% of retail for used gear, no matter what brand it is.

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p.2 #14 · Review: Feisol CT-3442 tripod, Photoclam PC-40NS ballhead


My Feisol came apart at the joints just after a year of use. I was told to mail it back to china and they would fix it. I fixed it myself but bought a real tripod to replace it. It was a bad investment.






















Jan 14, 2010 at 02:22 AM
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Hmmm, that's very interesting. I would have thought there'd be more (a lot more) surface area for bonding the two parts together. Also, surprised Feisol wouldn't just drop a new top leg section in the mail to you, considering other stories I've heard about their customer service.

Just put together a few pics to show some of the differences in leg pivot sections -

one of my 2-series Gitzo's:


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A grab from the Feisol site - their largest tripod:


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I don't have any x-rays, nor have I ever seen a Gitzo with a leg separation (although I'm sure it's happened), but it looks like typically Feisol offers a much smaller area for bonding the leg to the pivot.

Jan 14, 2010 at 05:35 AM
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yosemitehiker wrote:
My Feisol came apart at the joints just after a year of use. I was told to mail it back to china and they would fix it. I fixed it myself but bought a real tripod to replace it. It was a bad investment.


Wow the top bonding area is even smaller than the area where the leg locks bond. Hmm, well with any luck mine wont fail there too, but time will tell.

Jan 15, 2010 at 12:06 AM
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dcains wrote:

I don't have any x-rays, nor have I ever seen a Gitzo with a leg separation (although I'm sure it's happened), but it looks like typically Feisol offers a much smaller area for bonding the leg to the pivot.


I'm not a Feisol fanboy, but I don't see a huge difference here.

Also, how much area is enough? There isn't a huge amount of torque applied to this joint. How many tripods, even thin cheap ones, ever fail here?
Likely, Feisol had a bad run, either bad glue, or a problem in assembly.

This is the first and only report of such a problem with Feisol. Gitzo's have fallen apart as well.
It happens. What matters is how they deal with the problem, and if they learn from the mistake.

I'd say it's a non-issue.

Jan 15, 2010 at 03:33 AM
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You really can't see the differences in the way those two tripods are put together? I'll grant you the Gitzo is heavier . . .

As for the other "facts" you mentioned, neither you nor I have any idea is any of them are actually true. The membership base here on FM would be a ridiculously tiny sample from which to draw any conclusions, but a picture is worth the so-called thousand words.

Jan 15, 2010 at 09:00 PM
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dcains wrote:
You really can't see the differences in the way those two tripods are put together? I'll grant you the Gitzo is heavier . . .

As for the other "facts" you mentioned, neither you nor I have any idea is any of them are actually true. The membership base here on FM would be a ridiculously tiny sample from which to draw any conclusions, but a picture is worth the so-called thousand words.


For some, cognitive dissonance affects observational skills.

Jan 15, 2010 at 09:14 PM
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Looks like an issue to me. <shrug>

And these legs twist-lock right? The model at the shop I tried (I think) was this same model - and massive amounts of torque were applied to it by both me and the demonstrating salesman. The section tube itself torque-twisted probably 30 degrees before the lock released and there was more than that when either of us tried to turn it the wrong way or past the lock/unlock state.



Jan 16, 2010 at 12:15 AM
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OK, so one Feisol leg failure reported in the last year means Feisol is not a pro product?

-Then the same goes for Gitzo, since they had problems with bases falling apart. Geez, what garbage!

You guys crack me up.

Jan 16, 2010 at 04:26 AM
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Cableaddict wrote:
OK, so one Feisol leg failure reported in the last year means Feisol is not a pro product?

-Then the same goes for Gitzo, since they had problems with bases falling apart. Geez, what garbage!

You guys crack me up.


The joint under the ball head also failed. Two joints on one tripod that is just over a year old. Good thing they make epoxy so I can keep my tripod running.

Jan 16, 2010 at 05:49 AM
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WTH is a "pro product"? It's either excellent quality and virtually indestructible or you have to be careful with it. What does "pro" have to do with it?



Jan 16, 2010 at 11:15 AM
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Cableaddict wrote:
dcains wrote:

I don't have any x-rays, nor have I ever seen a Gitzo with a leg separation (although I'm sure it's happened), but it looks like typically Feisol offers a much smaller area for bonding the leg to the pivot.


I'm not a Feisol fanboy, but I don't see a huge difference here.

Also, how much area is enough? There isn't a huge amount of torque applied to this joint. How many tripods, even thin cheap ones, ever fail here?
Likely, Feisol had a bad run, either bad glue, or a problem in assembly.

This is the first and only report of such a problem with Feisol. Gitzo's have fallen apart as well.
It happens. What matters is how they deal with the problem, and if they learn from the mistake.

I'd say it's a non-issue.


Well, to be fair, I've seen at least half a dozen reports online of joints/locks becoming unglued or un-bonded. I still like my Feisol, and I know other brands have issues as well as nothing in perfect, but there is a vast difference in how a Gitzo and Feisol are constructed as reflected by their prices.


Jan 19, 2010 at 12:46 AM
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Gitzo legs fall off, also

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/859139

Jan 23, 2010 at 03:03 AM




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