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glort wrote:
I thought that would have been obvious.
I can guarantee you no one is going to book you when they can't remember your name or don't have your details either.
There are a whole load of things a client won't book you for individually. That's why sales is a process even if business owners recognise it or not.
Most photographers bust a gut to present themselves as professionally as possible because they realise the value of making a good impression.
I don't think there are many that would argue giving a client "a crappy piece of paper with your website inscribed on it" would be the best way to endear yourself to them or go too far in creating the all important good first impression.
Your position seems to be that giving out a business card is a waste of time but "a crappy piece of paper with your website inscribed on it" is somehow a better option.
I beg to differ with that.
Giving out crappy bits of paper with your details on it worked better than the 6 was it? business cards you gave out last year?
Who designed your business cards?
They must have been total and utter shit!
I have seen a lot that were. The designer wants to be all trendy and arty farty and puts the info like Phone number or email in tiny little pissant letters that can't be read with the naked eye by anyone with less than 20/20 vision in really good light.
I had a real estate agent give me one just like that last weekend. I handed it back and said you must be joking if you think I can read anything on that. I then told him he needed to get a decent card printed that was less trendy and artsy fartsy and actually fulfilled the purpose for which it was supposed to do. Next thing he wanted to send me a link on my face book page.
I looked at my wife, shook my head and walked off. Talk about a moron. Just because you are still wet behind the ears and spend your life on FB doesn't mean your far more mature clients do. Didn't see anyone his age looking at that property. Saw plenty that were more than 3 times older though.
The 20 something must be different to where you are than where I am. I am always asked for a card. Never asked about my web addy unless they want the card with that on it in the first place.
As for FB, what I have there is private and personal and only shared with family and friends.
Friends as in people I actually know, have their phone number, talk to, in person, regularly and actually know me.
I must be a very lonely guy because I have less than 50 " Friends" on there not 2000. Thank fk for that!
I have no polite come back to that other than to say I find your position to be very out of touch with my own weekly experiences.
So your position is they don't work based on the 5 you have given out?
I would strongly suggest that your thinking is somewhat backwards and the more you gave out, the better they would work and the more inquiry you'd get.
Seems to me a lot of positions people take are because they don't have the skills or knowledge to make things work so take the position they don't when there are endless examples in other similar areas where they undeniably do. ...Show more →
Wow...you're one angry old man! lol. Lighten up dude. There's no reason to spew personal attacks on such a minor topic.
I've given out over 1600-1800 of those business cards when they were relevant.
If the stuff from the 90s works for you in your Australia market in the way YOU do business and you make enough from that then by all means, all power to you!
It's just beyond ignorant of you to think what works for your business model and in your country will work the same here. The way I would market say in Russia is COMPLETELY different than how I would do so in Western Europe. The way I would market myself in a small town in USA or Canada is also quite different than how I would do so in a big city. Same goes for marketing cheap wedding photography, moderate and "high-end" - they all call for different strategies. Heck, 100 photographers in a city can market themselves differently and all can be successful. Some just are easier.
For you to assume everyone should follow your way and it's the most correct way is just childish, not all of us are newbies here and do quite well. Do you even do wedding actively and full time? Because if not, then your memories of past glory may not be so relevant right now. Things are changing very quickly and it's good to adapt.
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