Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Moderated by: guardian

Visit the FM Store · Image Upload · Buy & Sell
FM Forum Rules

FM Forums | Alternative Gear & Lenses | Join Image Upload

3 end

Archive 2009 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Joseph Marney
Offline
Image Upload: On

p.2 #1 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Ugh. Really making me want a LX-3. Anyone want to loan me $500?

Jan 19, 2009 at 06:14 PM

francishmt
Offline
Image Upload: On

p.2 #2 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Here's my contributions.

G10, ISO400

2008 © francishmt

Jan 20, 2009 at 03:19 AM

Jman13
Offline
Image Upload: On

p.2 #3 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

How about the G10's older brother, the G9:

This image is copyrighted by the owner

This is ISO 800:

This image is copyrighted by the owner

From a G-series contest on 'book title', I took Catch-22 to be a little different from the content of the book:

This image is copyrighted by the owner

Cicada:

Jan 20, 2009 at 10:52 AM

briangg
Offline
Image Upload: On

p.2 #4 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

A few more random samples from me with the G10.

A DSLR replacement if you're sick of hauling all that gear around, and dealing with the heavy costs?

I don't know

Brian

Jan 21, 2009 at 05:47 PM

briangg
Offline
Image Upload: On

p.2 #5 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

A few more,

First is with the G10, and the second and third are with the LX3.

Brian

Jan 21, 2009 at 05:51 PM

dasrocket
Offline
Image Upload: On

p.2 #6 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

great pics guys!
I have returned my LX3 after two weeks of frustrating use, and have been blown away by the G10 since! I find using it more than my D300 setup for many applications minus the obvious

Jan 21, 2009 at 08:09 PM

ewadler
Offline
Buy and Sell: On

p.2 #7 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

dasrocket wrote:
great pics guys!
I have returned my LX3 after two weeks of frustrating use, and have been blown away by the G10 since! I find using it more than my D300 setup for many applications minus the obvious

What frustrated you?

Jan 21, 2009 at 08:19 PM

Jammy Straub
Offline
Image Upload: On

p.2 #8 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

briangg wrote:
A DSLR replacement if you're sick of hauling all that gear around, and dealing with the heavy costs?
I don't know

Brian

Your photos would point toward YES for landscape work

Beautiful work.

Jan 22, 2009 at 02:01 AM

briangg
Offline
Image Upload: On

p.2 #9 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Jammy Straub wrote:
briangg wrote:
A DSLR replacement if you're sick of hauling all that gear around, and dealing with the heavy costs?
I don't know

Brian

Your photos would point toward YES for landscape work

Beautiful work.

Thanks Jammy,

Well their not quite replacing the DSLR yet

But I think the G10 and LX3 are closing the gap a little. Who knows, in a few years, the gap just may get closed

Brian

Jan 22, 2009 at 06:07 AM

pixelpix
Offline
Image Upload: Off

p.2 #10 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

These are wonderful images, but how do they stand up to a closer look? Is it possible to see some 100% crops... that would let us gauge how sharp and detailed these cams are, or are not, compared to our DSLRs.

Thanks

Rusty

Jan 22, 2009 at 09:44 AM

mrladewig
Offline
Image Upload: Off

p.2 #11 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Sure. Here are some LX3 examples.

100% crop

from this file

In my opinion, the camera can do well, but I don't think it holds detail as well as a 10MP crop dSLR would. In fact I think it is probably even with or just a touch behind an 8MP dSLR. But its still a fine little camera. Really quite amazing when you consider its compact size, f2 lens and wide angle capabilities.

They don't replace the need for a DSLR, but are very complimentary.

Jan 22, 2009 at 09:20 PM

briangg
Offline
Image Upload: On

p.2 #12 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Here's one from my G10. This shot was handheld by the way. I've never been a pixel peeper. The final output has always been the important thing to me.

Brian

Jan 22, 2009 at 10:05 PM

SJMD
Offline
Image Upload: Off

p.2 #13 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

makes me think about this baby,
these look like what I like

to see.

Jan 23, 2009 at 10:19 PM

pixelpix
Offline
Image Upload: Off

p.2 #14 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Thanks for the crops.... this makes it much easier to judge IQ.

The LX3 crop is quite smooth and takes a touch of sharpening quite well... the G10 Less so, but I assume that it has already received a bit more than the LX3.

I think I need to download some RAW images from these cams and have a play for myself.

Cheers

Rusty

Jan 23, 2009 at 11:58 PM

TBannor
Offline
Image Upload: On

p.2 #15 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Have you all seen this yet?

G10 Gigapan

Jan 26, 2009 at 02:05 AM

GMSQD
Offline
Image Upload: Off

p.2 #16 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Hi all,

Just got my LX3 yesterday after spending an entire morning on the phone trying to locate a black on in LA. I eventually found one at Bel Air.

I really needed something like this for my "carry" camera as my DSLR's are just too much grief to drag around on street trips and reconnaissance shoots.

Anyhow I've been playing around and so far I'm extremely impressed with the little beast. I intend to get all the add ons for it as soon as I can find them to make the outfit complete.

One question. I've got CS4 and Lightroom 2.2 but I'm not sure either of them properly support the LX3. What are you guys using for RAW from this thing? Is the Silkypix thing any good and is there something better?

Thanks in advance for any advice and I'll get some shots in this thread as soon as I can.

Cheers

Alex

Jan 26, 2009 at 07:35 PM

kwalsh
Offline
Buy and Sell: On

p.2 #17 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

GMSQD wrote:
One question. I've got CS4 and Lightroom 2.2 but I'm not sure either of them properly support the LX3. What are you guys using for RAW from this thing? Is the Silkypix thing any good and is there something better?

I believe both CS4 (ACR 5) and LR2.2 support the LX3 just fine. With older versions you have to convert to DNG first and the DNGs are unusually large so it is a bit screwy. But with CS4 and LR2.2 you should be just fine.

As far as Silkypix goes I actually have grown to like it a lot, it is very full featured. Its downsides are that it runs a bit slower than some converters, if you are a pixel peeper I don't think it does quite as good a job at recovering pixel level detail as other options, and the tool names and documentation are a bit hard to follow as they are translated from Japanese. That said, you can change how it generates preview images to speed it up a bit, while the pixel level detail isn't as great as others the global adjustments (color, contrast, etc.) are really very well done, and you can get a $3 e-book that makes up for the badly translated manual here:

http://www.eos-images.com/silkypix-resources/ebook-an-introduction-to-silkypix

All that said, if you already have a RAW work-flow you like with ACR or LR then you'll probably be happier with that.

Ken

Jan 26, 2009 at 09:02 PM

GMSQD
Offline
Image Upload: Off

p.2 #18 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Thanks Ken,

I tried a few RAW's in LR 2.2 and I think the default Dev' module settings were not exactly usable so I assumed that it wasn't a good converter for the LX3. I'll give it another go and report back.

Cheers,

Alex

Jan 26, 2009 at 09:13 PM

Osprey01
Offline
Image Upload: Off

p.2 #19 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

These are silkypix converted LX3 raws.

This image is copyrighted by the owner

Jan 27, 2009 at 03:15 PM

LKeithR
Offline
Image Upload: On

p.2 #20 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Hey, if we're talking compacts, why not the Sigma DP1 as well. If you don't mind being a little slower and deliberate in your shooting this thing can produce some stunning images...

Jan 28, 2009 at 09:09 AM

Chris Sorensen
Offline
Image Upload: Off

p.2 #21 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

ewadler wrote:
dasrocket wrote:
great pics guys!
I have returned my LX3 after two weeks of frustrating use, and have been blown away by the G10 since! I find using it more than my D300 setup for many applications minus the obvious

What frustrated you?

I can't speak for dasrocket, but I can tell you why I got rid of mine. I had the G9 and sold it to get the LX3 cuz I wanted better images and a smaller camera. And the image quality of the LX3 is very good, but the ergonomics were so frustrating I hated using it. The grip is too small and there's barely any place to put your thumb on the back. (And I don't have big hands.) So the end result is that you basically end up holding it with your fingertips. The buttons on the back are small, crowded, and flimsy. The dial turns on it's own way too often. And I discovered how much I dislike not having a viewfinder for real picture taking vs P&S snapshots.

I just bought a Ricoh GX200 with EVF that will be here Friday. The IQ isn't as good over ISO 400 but the ergonomics, handing and functioning of the camera are much better than the LX3. It feels great in the hand and you can operate it with one hand. The GX200 lens is slower, but is a little longer and has less distortion and CA. In a perfect world, I would love the chip and fast lens of the LX3 in the body of the GX200. But I'll live with the higher ISO limitations of the GX200 until the DP2 or Oly M4/3 come out cuz I know I'll enjoy using it.

Jan 28, 2009 at 01:58 PM

Chris Sorensen
Offline
Image Upload: Off

p.2 #22 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

rscheffler wrote:

This image is copyrighted by the owner

Really like these shots Ron. Kinda remind me of Phil Toledano's Bankrupt series.

Jan 28, 2009 at 02:06 PM

kwalsh
Offline
Buy and Sell: On

p.2 #23 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

Chris Sorensen wrote:
The buttons on the back are small, crowded, and flimsy. The dial turns on it's own way too often.

Buttons are definitely small and crowded given how small the camera is overall, but I certainly wouldn't call them flimsy at all. Pretty substantial actually. And yes, the damn dial is always moving when you pull the thing out of a case!

As far as the size goes, definitely one man's blessing is another man's curse - regardless of hand size. I have fairly large hands and yet I have no trouble with small cameras, love them in fact. My SLRs are Canon Rebels and I love the fact they are so small and I love how compact the LX3 is. Others it seems just want more flesh in contact with a camera and don't like it. Like most things, if you can try before you buy!

Ken

Jan 28, 2009 at 07:52 PM

Pavel
Offline
Image Upload: Off

p.2 #24 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

This is great as I'm in the dilemma of which of these to get. I think that there is such a thing as too small and so favor the G10 for that but the lens speed is what really draws me to the XL3. The G10 is faster in operation ... is it not?

All in all, while I long to get another ps (my last was a G1) I may wait this out and see what sigma offers for the successor to the DP1. If they get the speed in operation a bit faster and perhaps a 2.8 fixed 28 or 35 lens (24 is too wide for me) I will jump on that one as I like to shoot at 400 and find slower speeds stifling.

Great thread ... keep it going!

Jan 29, 2009 at 12:45 AM

advan031
Offline
Image Upload: On

p.2 #25 · Lx-3 and G10 master samples thread

I wanted a more "pocketable" p&s so the LX3 fits the bill. I've asked for it for my bday and it should be here by friday

Jan 29, 2009 at 02:40 AM


FM Forums \| Alternative Gear & Lenses \| Join Image Upload 1 2 3 end