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p.1 #1 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

If anyone has a crystal ball I'd be grateful if they could let me know if it is likely.

Had a go with one today...what a lens!

Mark

Dec 22, 2008 at 06:51 PM

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p.1 #2 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

1. No one knows and if anyone does know, he will be under NDA and would not be able to say anything.
2. My personal guess is that the chances are slim as it is known to be a great performer. Other WA that need improvement are the 28/1.8 USM and 20/2.8 USM which are just so-so. Other possible candidates are the non-USM primes 24/2.8, 28/2.8 and 35/2 – to get USM. Personally I'd like to see a 50/1.4 with ring-USM and IF design and improved IQ.

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Dec 22, 2008 at 08:51 PM

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p.1 #3 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

I agree, because it is such a good lens, it is unlikely that it will be upgraded.
dont try to fix something that aint broken

Dec 22, 2008 at 09:02 PM

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p.1 #4 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

Peter Kirk wrote:
I agree, because it is such a good lens, it is unlikely that it will be upgraded.
dont try to fix something that aint broken

Did we not have such a good 24 f1.4 L with absolute no need for upgrading?

Dec 22, 2008 at 09:43 PM

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p.1 #5 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

Yes, even just for the better coating and weather seal !

Dec 22, 2008 at 09:46 PM

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p.1 #6 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

markdennis wrote:
If anyone has a crystal ball I'd be grateful if they could let me know if it is likely.

Had a go with one today...what a lens!

Mark

I think so, this lens doesn't perform well on modern bodies with micro adjustments. I sold mine and no regrets, I am getting better shots on zooms with mk III.

Dec 23, 2008 at 12:18 AM

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p.1 #7 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

It would be nice if all of Canon's primes were upgraded with IS. I drool at the thought of a 85L with IS

Dec 23, 2008 at 01:28 AM

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p.1 #8 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

NO!!!
September 2010.

Dec 23, 2008 at 02:04 AM

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p.1 #9 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

Dawei Ye wrote:
It would be nice if all of Canon's primes were upgraded with IS. I drool at the thought of a 85L with IS

I'd drool for an 85L that would focus fast. Although I plan to get an 85L at some point, i won't be selling my F1.8 version until the L's will focus fast enough for action.

Dec 23, 2008 at 02:10 AM

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p.1 #10 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

The 35L is probably scheduled for an upgrade next year. Not a rumour, just a hunch....based on design/fabrication/application homology with the 24L.

That would also complete the revamp of all key WA lenses and then up to and including the normal and short telephoto: 14, 16-35, 24, 35, 50 and 85. All new/Mk II's , all spec'd to new Canon standards.
The 24-70L Mk II should close the circle...round up the wagons.

Dec 23, 2008 at 04:30 AM

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p.1 #11 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

Yakim Peled wrote:
2. My personal guess is that the chances are slim as it is known to be a great performer.

My personal guess is that the chances are excellent as it is a reliable seller, and now massively "underpriced" (in the US) compared to their new 24L-2/85L-2

Get 'em while they're cheap

Dec 23, 2008 at 02:06 PM

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p.1 #12 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

markdennis wrote:
If anyone has a crystal ball I'd be grateful if they could let me know if it is likely.

Had a go with one today...what a lens!

Mark

My crystal ball tells me that the economy will change for the worse before it gets better but I didn't see the 35mmL anywhere there

. Well, since you were impressed with the current version, why not just get one to call it your own

Dec 23, 2008 at 02:15 PM

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p.1 #13 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

Chez Wimpy wrote:
Yakim Peled wrote:
2. My personal guess is that the chances are slim as it is known to be a great performer.

My personal guess is that the chances are excellent as it is a reliable seller, and now massively "underpriced" (in the US) compared to their new 24L-2/85L-2

Get 'em while they're cheap

I have one.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/607298

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Dec 23, 2008 at 02:19 PM

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p.1 #14 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

markdennis wrote:
If anyone has a crystal ball I'd be grateful if they could let me know if it is likely.

I'll go against popular opinion here, and say that the 35L is very likely to be updated in 2009. It's the only non-specialty L prime lens remaining that hasn't been updated in the past 3 years (excluding telephotos).

14 f2.8L to 14 f2.8L II <--- 2007
24 f2.8L to 24 f2.8L II <--- 2008
35 f1.4L
50 1.0L to 50 f1.2L <--- 2006
85 f1.2L to 85 f1.2L II <--- 2006

The 35L in its current state is already a great lens, at a reasonable price ($1150 USD). If it were to be updated in 2009, expect Canon to jack up the price to around $1700 like they did with the 24Lmk2.

Dec 23, 2008 at 02:22 PM

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p.1 #15 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

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50 1.0L to 50 f1.2L <--- 2006

That I would not consider an upgrade, nor an update, nor a succession.
Those two lenses are very different. Considering its complexity, cost and potential market size, Canon is not likely to introduce another f/1.0 lens any time soon.

In fact the EF 50 f/1.2L design doesn't seem to follow the FD 55 f/1.2L ( FD 50 f/1.2) tradition either, although it does fill the same market/application niche.(I think someone at Canon might have gotten overly creative in minimizing the EF 50 f/1.2 lens manufacturing costs.

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Dec 23, 2008 at 03:28 PM

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p.1 #16 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

Lens is good but not on any bodies I own so I sold it. Especially it was not as good on 1D mk III, microadjustmenst and Canon calibration didn’t help.
I wish it will be upgraded since it is very useful focal/aperture. Would be good to have weather sealing too since I am using 1D body and prefer all my lenses survive rain and other weather extremes.

Jan 17, 2009 at 03:42 PM

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p.1 #17 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

If it does come out, you can bet that the price will go up quite a bit.

Jan 17, 2009 at 03:45 PM

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p.1 #18 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

For those hoping for lower priced non-L primes, consider Canon's last releases:

2000: 100/2.8 macro
1999: 65/2.8 macro (MP-E65)
1995: 28/1.8
1993: 50/1.4

Like it or not, all future primes are likely to be L-lenses, high in quality and price. The budget market is zooms only. You might not want to hear this but, that would be the reality I think. Note, I am not saying that this is fair or not, or it should be like that. You can always dream, but eventually you have to wake up!

Jan 17, 2009 at 04:42 PM

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p.1 #19 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

They did upgrade the 85L and most people were totally thrilled with it at the time... and since the 85L II and 50L both were designed to improve bokeh, maybe Canon will address the less than stellar 35L's bokeh...

Peter Kirk wrote:
I agree, because it is such a good lens, it is unlikely that it will be upgraded.
dont try to fix something that aint broken

Jan 17, 2009 at 06:13 PM

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p.1 #20 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

mh2000 wrote:
They did upgrade the 85L and most people were totally thrilled with it at the time... and since the 85L II and 50L both were designed to improve bokeh, maybe Canon will address the less than stellar 35L's bokeh...

Peter Kirk wrote:
I agree, because it is such a good lens, it is unlikely that it will be upgraded.
dont try to fix something that aint broken

Just out of curiosity, do you have any examples of the less than stellar bokeh?

Jan 17, 2009 at 06:16 PM

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p.1 #21 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

Yakim Peled wrote:
Chez Wimpy wrote:
Yakim Peled wrote:
2. My personal guess is that the chances are slim as it is known to be a great performer.

My personal guess is that the chances are excellent as it is a reliable seller, and now massively "underpriced" (in the US) compared to their new 24L-2/85L-2

Get 'em while they're cheap

I have one.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/607298

Happy shooting,
Yakim.

Hey, I just brought a 35L recently too.

Other than that it's killer optical performance (my shots are tack sharp, like 70-200F4L IS sharp, in the center, wide open), I am really really uncomfortable with the 35mm focal length and perspective. It's kind of not wide enough, but not normal enough for the shots I want. I'm thinking of now getting a 24L or a 21mm distant n gone.

Are you having this problem too with your 35L? =P

Jan 17, 2009 at 06:20 PM

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jfulton wrote:
Just out of curiosity, do you have any examples of the less than stellar bokeh?

I´ve been using a 35L on a 20D for about 2 years. It´s been my general purpose lens and therefore I´ve taken quite a lot of photos with it. All in all it´s a wonderful lens giving a lot of opportunities in low light situations and so on. It´s also remarkable sharp from wideopen and the contrast is good. The two things I do not find all that super is the bokeh and also CA. Not saying it´s all that bad, just not as good as I´ve come to expect from other better( at least in this regard(and in my opinion)) lenses. The last picture, @f5,6 (not the pictures of the 24L), in this link is in my opinion an example of rather harsch and not so very good bokeh. I also consider the 85L mk1 not so good when talking bokeh. It´s important not to mix shallow depth of field with bokeh. A good bokeh lens gives nice backgrounds even when stopped down and with highlighted backgrounds. But of course when shot wide open they both (35L and 85L) gives nice blurry backgrounds...

ILOVECANONL wrote:
Hey, I just brought a 35L recently too.

Other than that it's killer optical performance (my shots are tack sharp, like 70-200F4L IS sharp, in the center, wide open), I am really really uncomfortable with the 35mm focal length and perspective. It's kind of not wide enough, but not normal enough for the shots I want. I'm thinking of now getting a 24L or a 21mm distant n gone.

Are you having this problem too with your 35L? =P

Actually, yes. Since I now got a non cropcamera I tend to use either 50 or 24 and therefor are now selling the 35L. It´s not easy, since I still think it´s a remarkable lens, but hey, what´s the point having a remarkable lens in the bag, when I never use it?! Have ordered a 24L2 instead and I´m looking forward to the new acquaintance...

Just my 2 cents
/Jerka (sorry for my bad english)

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Jan 17, 2009 at 07:32 PM

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p.1 #23 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

i'll second the call for an upgraded 50mm 1.4.

canon is forcing me to the zeiss 50mm 1.4... why, world? why?

Jan 17, 2009 at 08:10 PM

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p.1 #24 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

Don't have any special inside knowledge or anything, but it seems to me Canon have started a rolling program of L lens upgrades, presumably in advance of very large sensor yield increases over the coming few years.

The L 14mm, 16-35mm and recently the 24mm lenses have been upgraded with Mark 2 status, seems logical to assume the 35mm is next. I just don't know when.

Speaking personally, its unlikely I will jump my 24mm L from Mk 1 to Mk2, instead I will save up for the 35L Mk2 to eventually replace my 35mm f2.

Frankly, your guess is as good as mine!

Jan 17, 2009 at 08:18 PM

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p.1 #25 · Will 35mm 1.4L be upgraded next year?

Jerka wrote:

Actually, yes. Since I now got a non cropcamera I tend to use either 50 or 24 and therefor are now selling the 35L. It´s not easy, since I still think it´s a remarkable lens, but hey, what´s the point having a remarkable lens in the bag, when I never use it?! Have ordered a 24L2 instead and I´m looking forward to the new acquaintance...

Just my 2 cents
/Jerka (sorry for my bad english)

That's what I thought as well, there's no point in keeping a lens that you will never bring in your camera bag. I might keep it for the wide-ish angle low light performance though and learn how to see with the 35mm perspective. Grab a 21mm distagon for the ultimate wide angle when it comes out for 2100 CDN. =(

abam wrote:

i'll second the call for an upgraded 50mm 1.4.

canon is forcing me to the zeiss 50mm 1.4... why, world? why?

Try the new sigma 50/1.4. The new nikon 50/1.4 AF-S is also reported to be razor sharp wide open. If I shot with nikon I'd grab a new 50 AF-S in a heartbeat. I'd think twice on the zeiss, just because it has the zeiss label on it doesn't mean it has excellent optical performance. After hearing about the QE issues with the 85/1.4 I'll be scared to spend 800-1000$ on a manual focus only lens. Also, just because it's a zeiss doesn't mean the bokeh or colours beats canon, nikon, or sigma.

Jan 17, 2009 at 08:48 PM


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