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p.1 #1 · ACR 5.2


ACR 5.2 is out and it includes support for 5DII.

Nov 25, 2008 at 10:48 PM
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p.1 #2 · ACR 5.2


Is this for CS3?


Nov 26, 2008 at 12:29 AM
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p.1 #3 · ACR 5.2


musclepics wrote:
Is this for CS3?


No, not compatible.

Nov 26, 2008 at 12:31 AM
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p.1 #4 · ACR 5.2


GeneO wrote:
musclepics wrote:
Is this for CS3?


No, not compatible.

so 5.2 ONLY works with cs4?



Nov 26, 2008 at 12:42 AM
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p.1 #5 · ACR 5.2


stiksandstones wrote:
GeneO wrote:
musclepics wrote:
Is this for CS3?


No, not compatible.

so 5.2 ONLY works with cs4?



Yes, ACR 5.2 only works for CS4. The ACR version that works for CS3 is 4.x. However, it is very unlikely that adobe will update CS3's ACR to support 5DII.

Nov 26, 2008 at 01:14 AM
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p.1 #6 · ACR 5.2


stiksandstones wrote:
GeneO wrote:
musclepics wrote:
Is this for CS3?


No, not compatible.

so 5.2 ONLY works with cs4?



Yes, that is correct. It is typical of Adobe to bleed another $200 out of you to get support for a new camera. You add it up over time and you'll find they got $1K plus out of you


Nov 26, 2008 at 01:18 AM
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p.1 #7 · ACR 5.2


hkitty wrote:
stiksandstones wrote:
GeneO wrote:
musclepics wrote:
Is this for CS3?


No, not compatible.

so 5.2 ONLY works with cs4?



Yes, ACR 5.2 only works for CS4. The ACR version that works for CS3 is 4.x. However, it is very unlikely that adobe will update CS3's ACR to support 5DII.


If true that is outfrigginragous. Cmon Adobe....CS3 cost me a bundle.

Question. If I use the Canon 5D Mark2 and ACR 4.6 instead of 5.2.......what happens? If CS3 won't run ACR 5.2 what happens to the files that my 5D Mark 2 puts out in CS3?

Nov 26, 2008 at 03:18 AM
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p.1 #8 · ACR 5.2


This gets debated a lot but its always worth mentioning:

- Adobe leaves the door open for older versions if you use the DNG converter (free) to convert to DNG. If you do this as part of your card copy routine it really doesn't add that much to the workflow and DNGs do have the advantage of storing the recipe inside the file instead of in a database or sidecar XMP.

- $200 for the upgrade. There are people here on FM that pay that for a good-quality polarizer. Many folks who have spent $1k on Photoshop and upgrades dictated by new cameras have probably spent $10k+ on camera gear. A matter of perspective I guess and where you place value in your photographic hobby/business.


Nov 26, 2008 at 03:36 AM
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p.1 #9 · ACR 5.2


What's so outrageous about what Adobe is doing? They make their living selling software. If they continually upgrade old versions to satisfy their users, they'd never sell upgrades.



Nov 26, 2008 at 03:39 AM
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p.1 #10 · ACR 5.2


Eyeball wrote:
This gets debated a lot but its always worth mentioning:

- Adobe leaves the door open for older versions if you use the DNG converter (free) to convert to DNG. If you do this as part of your card copy routine it really doesn't add that much to the workflow and DNGs do have the advantage of storing the recipe inside the file instead of in a database or sidecar XMP.

- $200 for the upgrade. There are people here on FM that pay that for a good-quality polarizer. Many folks who have spent $1k on Photoshop and upgrades dictated by new cameras have probably spent $10k+ on camera gear. A matter of perspective I guess and where you place value in your photographic hobby/business.


I've tried that. The DNG just does not preserve the camera specifics and are therefor more difficult to process.


Nov 26, 2008 at 03:55 AM
 



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Mattbtn wrote:
What's so outrageous about what Adobe is doing? They make their living selling software. If they continually upgrade old versions to satisfy their users, they'd never sell upgrades.



There is a difference between upgrading features and supporting cameras. The features between "sub-releases" of Adobe are basically not worth $200.. You end up paying it for the camera support. $200 is a big chunk of the initial price of the software. nearly 30%. The only reason they get by with it is somewhat of a monopolistic hold on the market.

Phase One for instance supports cameras on all of their supported releases without having to pay an upgrade charge.

Gene

Nov 26, 2008 at 04:01 AM
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p.1 #12 · ACR 5.2


So if you have CS3 - is there any other option to process 5DmkII files?

Nov 26, 2008 at 04:05 AM
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p.1 #13 · ACR 5.2


What is outrageous is yet another camera from Canon without the support for the DNG. If they can not produce a decent software to bundle with the camera they should at least make sure that the customer can use his own file from the camera with any software. Adobe has to reverse engineer their file format and update all old programs because mighty Canon released a new camera gimme a break!

Nov 26, 2008 at 04:08 AM
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p.1 #14 · ACR 5.2


Karokan wrote:
So if you have CS3 - is there any other option to process 5DmkII files?


Use the DNG Converter as I mentioned earlier or use Canon's DPP to create 16-bit Tiffs and bring those into PS if you need to. There are other raw converters also.

Nov 26, 2008 at 04:10 AM
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p.1 #15 · ACR 5.2


So let me get this straight. If I buy a Canon 5D Mark 2 and I currently own Photoshop CS3 and shoot raw exclusively.......I won't be able to open or edit the Mark 2 RAW files?

Nov 26, 2008 at 05:41 AM
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p.1 #16 · ACR 5.2


Tom K. wrote:
So let me get this straight. If I buy a Canon 5D Mark 2 and I currently own Photoshop CS3 and shoot raw exclusively.......I won't be able to open or edit the Mark 2 RAW files?


You will, if you convert them to DNG first, as stated above several times.

Nov 26, 2008 at 05:49 AM
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p.1 #17 · ACR 5.2


stanj wrote:
Tom K. wrote:
So let me get this straight. If I buy a Canon 5D Mark 2 and I currently own Photoshop CS3 and shoot raw exclusively.......I won't be able to open or edit the Mark 2 RAW files?


You will, if you convert them to DNG first, as stated above several times.


Convert them to DNG. Hmmmm....that's not something I have done. I'll have to look into that. Many thanks for the info.


Nov 26, 2008 at 06:05 AM
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p.1 #18 · ACR 5.2


There is another option: Lightroom (once 2.2 hits the streets).
Hellava lot cheaper than CS4, has the same raw-processing code, and you could even cope with many current-day processing tasks using CS2 behind LR.

Nov 26, 2008 at 06:11 AM
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p.1 #19 · ACR 5.2


Karokan wrote:
So if you have CS3 - is there any other option to process 5DmkII files?


Ah, DPP of course: great conversions, is stable and will batch process or open a converted file in PS if you must. I really like DPP and have no love for PS or Abobe. I also really like Aperture but good conversions take more mouse clicks than DPP.


Nov 26, 2008 at 06:20 AM
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p.1 #20 · ACR 5.2


There is no DNG converter in the ACR 5.2 download unless I've missed something, thought that was unusual.

Nov 26, 2008 at 06:52 AM
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