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p.1 #1 · Will we become a video board?

With the advent of HD video capability in these cameras (and you know every one from here on out is going to have that capability), are we going to turn into a video board with post after post of "hey, check this video out"? Maybe we will need a separate forum for Canon SLR video

We need some guidance here Fred.

Nov 25, 2008 at 03:44 PM

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p.1 #2 · Will we become a video board?

NO!!!!

Nov 25, 2008 at 04:30 PM

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p.1 #3 · Will we become a video board?

I hope so. Anything to push the whining and bickering off of page one.

Bring on the videos!

Nov 25, 2008 at 04:37 PM

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p.1 #4 · Will we become a video board?

I suspect over time the lines will become more blurred as people become more skilled at integrating video and still image for clients.

Nov 25, 2008 at 04:38 PM

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p.1 #5 · Will we become a video board?

John Power wrote:
With the advent of HD video capability in these cameras (and you know every one from here on out is going to have that capability), are we going to turn into a video board with post after post of "hey, check this video out"?

God I hope not!

I'm still amazed Canon put video into an SLR. For me (imho) photography and videography are two completely different mediums. That being said, i would think video discussions should be in their own forum altogether.

my 2 cents

Nov 25, 2008 at 05:58 PM

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p.1 #6 · Will we become a video board?

On the grounds that when recording video the camera is no longer an SLR (since no reflex) then we can kick them wannabe movie makers the hell out

Still not getting the video thing. All these people saying 'very excited to try the video'....well, camcorders have been around for a while now guys, if that's what you're into.....

Nov 25, 2008 at 06:33 PM

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p.1 #7 · Will we become a video board?

I highly doubt it, although there will inevitably be questions about video from both the Canon and Nikon users on the respective forums.

Questions about video do not dominate PnS forums, yet PnS cameras have had video for years...

Nov 25, 2008 at 06:34 PM

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p.1 #8 · Will we become a video board?

fredtube lol

Nov 25, 2008 at 06:40 PM

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p.1 #9 · Will we become a video board?

I still can't believe they've included video in the next 5D. I'm blown away, in fact. I agree with Phast1, photography and videography are two separate arts. I don't really know how to feel about it all. I'm just glad I have my beloved original 5D.

I think maybe there should be a separate forum for video-related chatter too.

Nov 25, 2008 at 11:04 PM

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p.1 #10 · Will we become a video board?

Funny that people think videography and photography are so different. They have different conceptual values and a different process but I think that understanding different mediums isn't bad. Printmaking and painting may be different than photography but in the end it all relates. And the fact that its being added to our dslrs is fantastic. I'd rather have more tools than less. You don't have to play with video if you don't want, but it's there when you get curious.

Honestly, most DPs for films are pretty incredible stills shooters...It takes the same ability to make a good composition, light well, and tell stories with multiple frames in both video and stills. And sure camcorders have been out for ages, but none of them have the low light ability and lens selection that a d90 or 5dmarkII have for the price. These whiney wet blanket sort of reactions are pretty funny but a bit unnecessary. Imagine all the negative posts that would have come out if the 5dmarkII didn't have video and the lowly d90 did....

Nov 26, 2008 at 01:03 AM

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p.1 #11 · Will we become a video board?

We are going to hear more whinning than was ever thought once inexperienced would be cinemaphotographers try to make movies. The list of complaints will be a mile long. The video is great, if you know what you are doing and have top notch hardware and software, and are willing to spend 12 hours editing a few minutes of video.

Nov 26, 2008 at 03:39 AM

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p.1 #12 · Will we become a video board?

It'll definitely need its own section. Keep that crap out of here, people will be posting 3,478 topics a day about it.

Nov 26, 2008 at 03:59 AM

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p.1 #13 · Will we become a video board?

Lance Couture wrote:
I highly doubt it, although there will inevitably be questions about video from both the Canon and Nikon users on the respective forums.

Questions about video do not dominate PnS forums, yet PnS cameras have had video for years...

The video mode on P&S's sucks. The 5D II's 1080p video is a whole other ball game.

Nov 26, 2008 at 04:00 AM

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p.1 #14 · Will we become a video board?

No, video and imagery will always be different. Its almost like 2 completely different arts. And lets face it, nobody wants to sit through a 3 hour professional video of a wedding, the would rather pick up the book on the coffee table, skin through it, and be done with it. Or your sons first baseball game, nobody wants to watch the entire thing, you just have your still camera for the highlights of the game.

Nov 26, 2008 at 04:12 AM

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p.1 #15 · Will we become a video board?

I sure hope not. Blocking the 99% of useless jpegs in the gear forums is enough hassle.

EBH

Nov 26, 2008 at 05:17 AM

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p.1 #16 · Will we become a video board?

Will Patterson wrote:
Lance Couture wrote:
I highly doubt it, although there will inevitably be questions about video from both the Canon and Nikon users on the respective forums.

Questions about video do not dominate PnS forums, yet PnS cameras have had video for years...

The video mode on P&S's sucks. The 5D II's 1080p video is a whole other ball game.

You missed my point entirely...

Nov 26, 2008 at 06:49 AM

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p.1 #17 · Will we become a video board?

I could see Fred allowing a DSLR Video forum (and it might be a good idea to head off some potential confrontations), but I can't see it going much farther (links only, no uploads, strict moderation to keep it limited to DSLRs). Honestly, though, I think once the "wow" factor wears off, people will realize the DSLR is the wrong form factor for a video camera, regardless of resolution.

Nov 26, 2008 at 06:50 AM

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freaklikeme wrote:
Honestly, though, I think once the "wow" factor wears off, people will realize the DSLR is the wrong form factor for a video camera, regardless of resolution.

+1!

Nov 26, 2008 at 06:53 AM

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p.1 #19 · Will we become a video board?

let DPR and vimeo handle the vids...real photogs come here even the Nikon shooters

Nov 26, 2008 at 07:17 AM

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p.1 #20 · Will we become a video board?

i'm still wondering what it is that makes us so much better than dpreview, et al. there are much better photogs on other, less for-the-masses sites.

Nov 26, 2008 at 11:08 AM

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p.1 #21 · Will we become a video board?

It used to be more the adult atmosphere and lack of name-calling that made FM better. Lately, well....

Nov 26, 2008 at 11:12 AM

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p.1 #22 · Will we become a video board?

digitalbug30d wrote:
let DPR and vimeo handle the vids...real photogs come here even the Nikon shooters

Vimeo is quite interesting. A very good example of 5D2 video there. The downtown shots of Bejing are deceptive. It is a Communist dictatorship but looks like any big city.

Nov 26, 2008 at 12:23 PM

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p.1 #23 · Will we become a video board?

I've always thought that D/SLR have a very awkward grip where you have to bend your wrist compared to the natural grip of any compact video camera where you don't have to bend your wrist. If people want to shoot films with their DSLR, it's their choice I guess... just be aware of carpal tunnel.

The only lure is the ability to shoot film with high quality lenses. I personally look forward to future xxD or xxxD line to have video capability so I can shoot film with my MP-E 65mm lens at 5x magnification.

Nov 26, 2008 at 12:33 PM

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Beni wrote:
freaklikeme wrote:
Honestly, though, I think once the "wow" factor wears off, people will realize the DSLR is the wrong form factor for a video camera, regardless of resolution.

+1!

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I shoot family stuff - photos and video. I have some nice gear, including a 5D and a nice Sony camcorder that shoots in widescreen (once you try it, you're hooked and it's the only way to go). I'm very interested in the video, not for the resolution, but to see how it works with my lenses. I'd love to try it with my 16-35 2.8 mark 2, and my 70-200 2.8 IS. You can't do that with any camcorder that's anywhere near affordable, as far as I know. The best I could do would to get a wide angle attachment to the camcorder, but that's not nearly as cool!

Maybe the wow factor will wear off of the cool lens thing too - just wanted to point out that it's not all about the HD!

Nov 26, 2008 at 12:45 PM

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BenV wrote:
No, video and imagery will always be different. Its almost like 2 completely different arts. And lets face it, nobody wants to sit through a 3 hour professional video of a wedding, the would rather pick up the book on the coffee table, skin through it, and be done with it. Or your sons first baseball game, nobody wants to watch the entire thing, you just have your still camera for the highlights of the game.

Exactly, that was going to be my comments as well. Video is real time whereas still photography is not. I shoot both and the techniques used for each are completely different.

I suspect the honeymoon will be over as soon as users see how much effort and $$$ it takes to properly edit HD. Add the fact that there is still no practical delivery mechanism for the average shooter (I don't consider $10-13 a disc for Blu-ray media practical) and they will understand why most still deliver SD content.

Nov 26, 2008 at 12:58 PM


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