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#56 in a Series of Impressions Threads: "Arrangement in Gray and Black"
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THE IMAGE LINK: Impressions Image #56 "Arrangement in Gray and Black"
http://www.steadmanuhlich.com/impressions56/index.html

NOTE 1: When you see this image via the link, you will also see another image right next to it. The second image is of a painting widely recognized as "Whistler's Mother." The actual title (the one the artist, James McNeill Whistler, used was always "Arrangement in Grey and Black." I have included the image of the painting in order to better share my feelings below. Consider it an illustration to supplement the following story.

The BackStory:
While I was photographing this pianist, I noticed a particular combination of the light, the gray painted wall, the black dress, and her posture and hand position. This "clicked" in my mind and I vaguely recalled a similar composition. I made the exposures, while thinking to myself: "This looks like a painting." The funny thing to me is how similar the resulting image appears after later finding a photo of Whistler's Mother. You may not believe this, but I had not seen Whistler's Mother (image/painting) for years prior to making the photo of the pianist. That "visual memory" was vague but immediate. So when I was photographing the pianist, I could "see" a "painting" because of the tones, the composition, and the overall effect. The thoughts of a "painting" were my impressions at the moment I was photographing the pianist.

By the way, when an artist paints a painting that has visual elements of an earlier work they admire, it is usually called an "homage" (an honor to the original artwork and artist). So, while I did not look at Whistler's Mother (image or photo) as a "model" for this photo of the pianist, I like the allusion or similarity so much I will title this: "Arrangement in Gray and Black" as an homage to Whistler.

Yes...I know that I spelled it "Gray" and he spelled (or spelt) it "Grey." That is a particular "difference" I have made on purpose and..."Gray" is an acceptable spelling variation in the USA.

In the image of the pianist, she is playing, but is in a very erect "proper" position...and she is recalling a passage of music to play. It is a very natural "NLP" look while she remembers and considers her next notes. She is looking out a large window. She is playing. And while her expression in her eyes (and mouth) is not the usual "smile at the camera" expression one might more commonly see (or the "closed eyes lost in music" expression), this is a totally natural expression of her as she plays. I like it. And I like this image so much, I will eventually paint it very much like you see here (with minor differences in composition).

When you view the photo and the painting side by side, take a look at the way each image has a large field (background) in gray/grey. Also notice the large areas of black (like blocks). Also see the shape and "blackness" of the dresses. See the hands on a "bed" of white (a contrast that draws the eyes to the hands). And notice the erect posture and "L" shape of the figures. When I placed the photo next to the painting I imagined that one was playing for the other in the same room.

Finally, there is a certain "aesthetic" to paintings that is sometimes hard to evoke in a contemporary photo. I don't mean "software painted brushstrokes" or "pseudo paint" or things like that that come from using Photoshop. I mean the underlying visual elements and "composition" (more than anything). Sometimes it is simply the expressions and sometimes the simplicity. Sometimes it is the "feeling" or the "impression." So when I photograph some subjects/people, I look at them sometimes as a photographic subject, and at other times as I would imagine them in a painting. Those can be very different "oeuvres" (French œuvre, literally, work) or "styles."

Please share your impressions. That helps me as an artist and will be appreciated and enjoyed by the subject too (i.e. the pianist).

NOTE2: Read the "Tools" and "Techniques" notes below to understand how this image was made without flash and how it captures a natural moment (not posed) as the musician is actually performing a piece of music. I wrote those sections to help you with some tips.

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My Intent or Goal:
Create a Black and White portrait of this woman that shows her unique beauty. For this image I wanted to create an image that captures her playing. I thought her eyes were beautiful (brown), her features very nice and her look refreshingly "natural." This image is one of several I made of her, so she became the subject of several "Impressionistic" images.

This particular image is one of a set to show one of those "moods." This one is one of the more "serious" portrait images. Now...what do YOU see?

The Piano (Prop):
For those of you who like pianos...I am sure you would like to see more of the instrument. This is a 9 foot Steinway Concert Grand piano. The price is about $150,000 or so for this instrument. The low notes sound like thunder and the high notes sound like crystal. Hit a key and the sound continues and continues...a lovely instrument.

The Light:
She is sitting near a large window. I prefer natural light. See the note below about the limits of web viewing this image.

The Tools:
My preference is for keeping the use of tools very simple. The image is made with minimal equipment and processing. The lens was a 50mm, set at f2.8 and shutter speed 1/160 sec and shot hand-held (in keeping with my nickname).

The Technique:
The most important things to use during a session like this is...patience and an open mind. Patience to see the image when the light and expression were just right. And while you might not think it, she is actually playing the piano for me during the moment I captured here. . I watched her play for a few moments and saw a movement or expression that I wanted to capture. I waited until I saw what I wanted (I knew what was coming) and then "click" got this moment frozen. Her hand is obviously a key element of this image. It is at the position when she is playing, but as with almost all photos of pianist's hands, they can look "awkward" depending on the particular combination of notes played at that instant. That took careful timing and careful observation. Other exposures/frames were similar but it is a matter of "timing" (knowing or anticipating when to click the shutter release) more than a matter of luck or shutter speed. I use this same method when photographing dancers where flash is not allowed. It really helps if you listen to the music before the session and understand and observe the rhythms and cadence and movements. IF you do that, you can get wonderful images that "appear" frozen at the "decisive moment" due to knowing what will happen with the figure in motion. This can work despite a relatively slow shutter speed. I hope that "tip" helps you.

Notes:
1. This is part of my Natural Expressions series and part of a project focused on pianists. So, while some "expressions" are very easy to see because of a broad smile, laugh, or scowl, this one is something more subtle, and depends on the body language or expression using the body. I don't expect everyone to see this.

2. This is a greatly reduced file for the web. Unfortunately, the image appears to lose some details at this reduction and also is beginning to show some jpg artifacts from all the saving for different sizes and formats I use on the web and in other media. So...the skin does not look as smooth (naturally) as it does in the actual print. In the original print (which appears sharper), the individual hairs on her head and her eyelashes are very distinct (as an example) and the skin has a completely natural texture (no smoothing). Also at this size on the web, the contrast is not what one sees in a final print. For example, in the web view, you may see a lack of texture in the highlight areas of the skin (or they may appear 'hot') and in the shadow areas too. In the final print there is a very natural look to the her skin, hair, and the textures of her garment. In fact, in large prints (and on my calibrated monitor) one can see the very subtle tonal differences between the background and the dark hair or black garments. She is wearing black velvet...and that is very difficult to expose while keeping the white keys and highlights at a nice point. The final print has natural texture there. It is subtle but lost in the web viewing. IN short, her black garments look better in the print than they do on the web.

3. This made a very "natural" and beautiful portrait that appears very much alive and 3-D.

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Why is an Impressions Style Thread Used Here?

Short answer: To get a different kind of discussion going on a posted image, encourage lurkers to participate, and for the artist to learn something about the interpretations or impressions evoked by the image posted.

My Simple Suggestion for this forum: Contribute what you can in photographs, or comments or Impressions (as requested here) and this will be a richer viewing experience for everyone who visits.

IF you are a lurker, this type of thread is a very easy way for you to participate in the forum and you can contribute something and it can be fun. Go ahead and jump in. If you were a lurker before, let me know that too. I am hoping this type of discussion will get more people to participate here as that will enrich the forum.

I believe many people are just lurkers because they feel they cannot post "proof" of their expertise and they may be intimidated from posting anything that would not sound "smart enough" regarding photography and the technical aspects of it. I think the technical discussions are fine for those that want them (in their own threads). I also think there are many others who may not want to get technical and enjoy their photography a different way. This is NOT about technical stuff, so feel free to be poetic or "impressionistic" as that is encouraged.

The development of this new style of thread posting (Impressions) will give an opportunity to many people who do not feel comfortable discussing photos in technical terms.

This type of thread is NOT about technical things (that is "off topic" in this kind of thread), it is simply about how you "see" and "feel" things in the image shown. So, anyone from a rank beginner or newbie to an expert can participate on equal standing. Here is your chance.

A FUN Tip: It is more fun if you look at the image before reading any other Impressions posted by others. So take a look, get an impression, add your impression at the bottom (and please give your first name and city), and then take a minute to read some of the earlier postings. You might chuckle or smile as you see how others see the same image.
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How an Impressions Discussion Works:

This is the 51st Impressions Thread I have started. IF you have never read one of these before, please read the middle and bottom of this thread before viewing the photo or posting your comments.

This type of thread or discussion is NOT about technical critiques. IF you don't understand what I mean by "Impressions," simply spend a few minutes reading below or on the linked page where the image is shown. I give tips on this type of thread and answer some questions people have asked me here before.

I have put the link to the image closer to the top of this post to make it quick and easy to find. The other detailed text below the portrait introduction is for those who want to read it or need some guidance on this new approach to discussion threads here on the forum. Over time, I will reduce the amount of text as I believe others here on the forum begin to understand the intent of this type of discussion or "Impression" thread. You are encouraged to leave your Impressions (as described below) but I do ask that you leave "Impressions" as that is the topic. IF you missed the other earlier Impressions threads I started, simply look back in the forum or search for a thread with topics starting "Your Impression?" and you will find them.


IF you feel a need to debate the value of Impressions versus Technical Criticism, then please do not do it in this thread (as that is "off topic"), and instead do it in the thread where that debate IS the topic of discussion, here: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/649345

You might also enjoy reading the different "Impressions about Impressions" thread here:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/653643

It is very simple. Here is my request: To add positive value to this thread or discussion, please share your "Impressions" of the figure or face or expression or action or "total image" in the photo you see. Put very simply: "What do you see or sense about the person in the photo?" Also, please tell me your First Name + City when you give me your Impression. That is important for my Global Impressions Project (A few paragraphs describing my project are found on the page linked to the image page. You will find it on the second page if you want to know more.)

Also, I encourage you to post your own "Impressions" thread with a photo some time. Reading the variety of Impressions is very satisfying and helpful to any artist who is interested in how a work of art (photo) affects a viewer or viewers. So, try it some time. My Simple Suggestion: Place the word "Impression" as the first word of your topic title for the thread and then people will know you want Impressions rather than technical criticism. The rest is up to you.



Nov 18, 2008 at 08:40 PM
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The first thought that came to my mind is that she is waiting for the conductor's down stroke. This actually brought back a lot of memories of when I was in choir in school. The accompanist always clearly had way more talent than the students and we only had them for the week or so preceding a performance.

I realize this may not be what your looking for since I largely ignored the comparison to Whistler's Mother, but that's where my brain went.

Mark
Maple Valley, WA



Nov 18, 2008 at 10:18 PM
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Compositionally the photo is simpler than the painting. The pianist has a quiet elegant beauty I'll bet you really enjoyed your session with her


Nov 19, 2008 at 12:48 AM
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Unfortunately there is just a little too much area behind the pianist to feel comfortable looking at her. If she had her head raised slightly and her eyes closed it would convey what you said about her thinking. Also, if the little finger on her right hand held a key down, it would look less posed and more like she was actually playing and dreaming. My impressions.


Nov 19, 2008 at 01:28 AM
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renpho wrote:
The first thought that came to my mind is that she is waiting for the conductor's down stroke. This actually brought back a lot of memories of when I was in choir in school. The accompanist always clearly had way more talent than the students and we only had them for the week or so preceding a performance.

I realize this may not be what your looking for since I largely ignored the comparison to Whistler's Mother, but that's where my brain went.

Mark
Maple Valley, WA


Hi Mark,

Thanks for adding your impression.

I know what you mean. It is a moment of what appears to be "pause" even though she is in the process of playing.

The "comparison" to the painting was simply "backstory" and not critical to any impressions of the image of the pianist. I simply included the painting and backstory to share my own Impressions and how the image is seen by the artist (me) for possibly hard to see reasons when viewed by most photographers (if looked at as a photo). Hmmm...by that I mean that the image/photo has a certain kind of "link" to a style of composition that is "painterly" and not commonly seen in contemporary photography. At least, that is how I see it.



Nov 19, 2008 at 06:46 AM
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Peter Fry wrote:
Compositionally the photo is simpler than the painting. The pianist has a quiet elegant beauty I'll bet you really enjoyed your session with her



Hi Peter,

Yes.

One thing about the painting, is its "flatness" as Whistler was said to be influenced by the art events of his time. Namely the popular spread of Japanese wood block prints across Europe. Many (but not all) tend to have flat areas or "graphic" elements and subdued color areas and figures. The black shapes of the mother's dress and the curtains are examples. In the Pianist example, the analogous shapes are the pianist's black dress/skirt and the black shape of the piano itself.

Yes.



Nov 19, 2008 at 06:51 AM
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pilles wrote:
Unfortunately there is just a little too much area behind the pianist to feel comfortable looking at her. If she had her head raised slightly and her eyes closed it would convey what you said about her thinking. Also, if the little finger on her right hand held a key down, it would look less posed and more like she was actually playing and dreaming. My impressions.


Hi Pilles,

I am glad you added your impression too.

Your comment on the space behind her is understood (by me at least) but I don't agree completely.

I have cropped this image several ways, and this particular composition is what I wanted to show as a compliment to the painting. For that reason I retained the space shown behind the pianist, just as there is space behind Whistler's Mother.

As for her eyes open versus closed?
I understand your impression comments.
She was looking out past me and out a window in a "distant" thought (as I saw it) that was momentary. Such was the turn of the head. She turned her head while playing. People sometimes play and look to that "distance" with their eyes closed, but sometimes others do so with their eyes open. In this case her "distant look" is with eyes open. I suspect it has something to do with how we most commonly see photos of pianists. Many times they are in a spotlight on a stage. In those instances, it may be distracting and even difficult to "look with eyes open" into the glare of the spotlight (and it may cause them to freeze). In this case, there was no spotlight and her eyes were wide open. But, I do know what you mean and understand your impression.

As for the hand and fingers?
What can I say? She is playing, and at certain moments hands look different, sometimes with keys fully depressed, sometimes with fingers lightly touching, sometimes up in the air, sometimes crossed, and sometimes looking very awkward and "arched." Each musical moment has a different "look" to the hands and fingers.



Nov 19, 2008 at 07:04 AM
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Steady,

I've taken a look at a number of the Pianist threads, but I have reserved commenting until now.

This is the first of the Pianist images where I get the sense that I'm not looking at a picture, but I'm sitting on a small Victorian couch with a small group of other people in the room at a private, intimate concert. With this picture, I actually find that I'm missing out by not hearing her play.

To me, this image finally conveys... "Pianist"... not "Lady with Piano" if you follow me. You've done your usual excellent job on the others, but this one let me imagine I'm in the same room.


BTW, I'm a musician as well and I'm familiar with "the gaze into nowhere". Sometimes it's while recalling a piece of music, sometimes it's just working out a new chord arrangement and sometimes it's just nice to look out the window. The hands are doing one thing, the mind another and the eyes yet another. This happens all to frequently.

Thanks for sharing,

Matt



Nov 19, 2008 at 07:49 AM
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Without reading anything my impression is discomfort, as if she has finally noticed the camera and she doesn't know quite what is expected of her.

Now I'm going to go back and read.

Mike, CT



Nov 19, 2008 at 08:41 AM
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Matthew Sweet wrote:
Steady,

I've taken a look at a number of the Pianist threads, but I have reserved commenting until now.

This is the first of the Pianist images where I get the sense that I'm not looking at a picture, but I'm sitting on a small Victorian couch with a small group of other people in the room at a private, intimate concert. With this picture, I actually find that I'm missing out by not hearing her play.

To me, this image finally conveys... "Pianist"... not "Lady with Piano" if you follow me. You've done your usual excellent job
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Hi Matt,

Welcome to the impressionist world.

Thanks for adding your impression comments to this discussion. I found them very interesting to read.

You bring up a couple of good points that I was hoping another musician would "see" or respond to in comment. That "distance" issue is one. The other is the sense of "place" (as the POV is of a listener in an environment...say a "salon" recital or private performance).

I am glad you liked the image and it affected your senses.

The music WAS beautiful.

I wish I could play as well as these pianists...they were truly impressive to watch and to hear.



Nov 19, 2008 at 08:41 AM
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What i see when i look at the images is a lifestyle of discipline, with refinement as the goal. The woman on the left could possibly be the same, but younger version of the woman on the right. Both have lived the similar lifestyle. Both graceful and disciplined. The woman on the right is different in that she seems older and tired, while the one on the left is still full of youthful energy. Nice juxtaposition of the two.

Sheila, WA, USA



Nov 19, 2008 at 12:56 PM
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Hello Steady.

Nice picture. I have only one personal suggestion : the space in the back of the pianist is perhaps to large, I preferred to catch more piano parts. The horizontal white border on the floor (I don't know the name for this decoration part) appears on the picture and it's a bit out of context.

The impressionist moment now

"Le bruit du silence

Elle regarde l'audience, la défie de troubler ce silence qu'elle va, dans quelques secondes, laisser prendre la place de la musique. Un silence pour préparer l'assaut final des notes enfin libérées de sa mémoire."

"The sound of silence" (sorry, Art, sorry Garfunkel

She look to the audience, withstanding for respect for the silence that she will, in a few seconds, let take the place of the music. A silence to prepare the last assault of the musical notes finally free out of her memory.

thanks for sharing Steady and thanks for helping art to find a place in our lives

Yves / Brussels / Belgium



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sheilar wrote:
What i see when i look at the images is a lifestyle of discipline, with refinement as the goal. The woman on the left could possibly be the same, but younger version of the woman on the right. Both have lived the similar lifestyle. Both graceful and disciplined. The woman on the right is different in that she seems older and tired, while the one on the left is still full of youthful energy. Nice juxtaposition of the two.

Sheila, WA, USA


Hello Sheila,

That is a nice impression. I enjoyed reading it and thinking about how you see the image/woman. Nice thinking.

Thanks for sharing your impressions. You are an impressionista!




Nov 19, 2008 at 01:28 PM
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Y_vdm wrote:
Hello Steady.

Nice picture. I have only one personal suggestion : the space in the back of the pianist is perhaps to large, I preferred to catch more piano parts. The horizontal white border on the floor (I don't know the name for this decoration part) appears on the picture and it's a bit out of context.

The impressionist moment now

"Le bruit du silence

Elle regarde l'audience, la défie de troubler ce silence qu'elle va, dans quelques secondes, laisser prendre la place de la musique. Un silence pour préparer l'assaut final des notes enfin libérées de sa mémoire."

"The sound of silence" (sorry,
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Bonjour Yves + M.

Thanks for adding your impressions too. I always enjoy reading them and they give me another "view" or understanding of the images as seen through your eyes and imagination and wonderful words.

I understand fully your comments on the image composition. I have cropped and composed this shot/moments several ways each has a different feel. The horizontal comp shows much more piano and no piano bench. So each has different "view." I decided to post this comp because I wanted to show the legs of the piano bench, to complement the legs shown on the chair of Whistler's Mother painting. So, while I crop would reduce that space behind her, I felt it would also bring the image frame edge (left side of frame) too close to the legs of the bench. But...it was a matter of making a quick choice from many variable compositions. This is just what the camera saw.

The white thing you notice is called "moulding" or "floor board" (and other names, like "kick board") and is part of the interior wall behind the woman. I left that in the image posted as the painting also has a similar feature/element, only it is in black behind Whistler's Mother. I thought about eliminating it, but decided to keep it as a contrast to the black one in the painting.



Nov 19, 2008 at 01:35 PM
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None of this is meant to be taken technically, and it is purely my opinion: My impression is that she is distracted. Like all people do sometimes, she is performing the task at hand while her mind is elsewhere. Her eyes are pointed toward the camera, but they seem to be unfocused, staring off while she thinks of something else. Other than the similar poses, I see very little correlation between the two images. Just my impression.

Bryan
Houston, Tx, USA

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bryanlindsey wrote:
None of this is meant to be taken technically, and it is purely my opinion: My impression is that she is distracted. Like all people, she is performing the task at hand while her mind is elsewhere. Her eyes are pointed toward the camera, but they seem to be unfocused, staring off while she thinks of something else. Other than the similar poses, I see very little correlation between the two images. Just my impression.

Bryan
Houston, Tx, USA


Hi Bryan,

Thank you too for adding your impressions.

You and I do have different impressions, but that is to be expected.



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Steady, I'm surprised at you, excusing the position of the fingers. Its so simple to stop her for a second, and so fake looking as is.


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pilles wrote:
Steady, I'm surprised at you, excusing the position of the fingers. Its so simple to stop her for a second, and so fake looking as is.


Hi Pilles,



I am always amused when I surprise anyone.

Explaining what is shown is what I did. IF I had asked her to stop and press down a key and "hold it" THAT would have been "fake" or "posed."

As explained above, what you see is what happens while someone is actually playing. The hands can be high or low, fingers up or down.

There are moments when hands cross, fingers extend, fingers push, and fingers dance so lightly on the keys as to appear as if they are not even depressing them.

And of course there is the matter of two hands. One image may show the pianist at the moment when the left hand is doing the "pushing." True...I have several shots that show the left hand "in action" while the right hand is at a higher/lighter position on the keys.




Nov 19, 2008 at 03:18 PM
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Steady,

I like the portrait very much. It is different from the others of the same woman. I find it more formal and regal.

I have viewed it four times now over the course of an hour and a half or so, and still can't find the proper words to describe how I feel. So forgive me if my words are clumsy.

Everything about this portrait takes me back to the past when cameras were bulky and slow, or if somehow you took a picture of the subject sitting for a painting 75 years ago. The deliberateness of the pose, (even though I understand she was actually playing) makes a very strong statement about her feelings toward her music and in a sense, defines who she is as a person. My feeling is this is how she would want to be remembered; a pianist. It illumines some of the majesty of the performing arts, and hints at the rigorous training and practice required to excel at your art.

I like this a lot. Really a lot.

Bob



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bob parrish wrote:
Steady,

I like the portrait very much. It is different from the others of the same woman. I find it more formal and regal.

I have viewed it four times now over the course of an hour and a half or so, and still can't find the proper words to describe how I feel. So forgive me if my words are clumsy.

Everything about this portrait takes me back to the past when cameras were bulky and slow, or if somehow you took a picture of the subject sitting for a painting 75 years ago. The deliberateness of the pose, (even though
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Howdy Bob.

Thanks for your great impressions above. I always enjoy reading your remarks and "seeing" through your eyes for a bit.

Your insights to Musicians are also always appreciated. I liked the way you described the image and how you get the impression of her dedication and self-image as a pianist. I think those lines above are very accurate and worth reading a few times. Very well written and "well said." Thanks for contributing that "depth" to this image discussion.

And... I am glad you liked it.



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