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Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

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p.1 #1 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Check out the link :
http://www.alienbees.com/cybersyncplus.html

$179!

Nov 01, 2008 at 12:06 PM

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p.1 #2 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

very interesting...

Nov 01, 2008 at 04:39 PM

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p.1 #3 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Wow! Very interesting. I hope it's not exactly $179 after pre-order period.
Do I see that it will also work with speedlight (flashes) in combination with studio strobes? If so, that will be good.

Mufutau

Nov 01, 2008 at 05:26 PM

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p.1 #4 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Thanks for making me spend more money, a$$.

Nov 01, 2008 at 05:44 PM

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p.1 #5 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

I want so badly!

Nov 01, 2008 at 08:41 PM

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p.1 #6 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Brilliant! I never thought we'd get to this level of control this soon.

From the site:
You can also use other manufacturer’s lights with CYBER COMMANDER™, but the function will be limited to remote tripping, grouping and the camera f-stop metering and display. Since they don’t contain a Buff-compatible remote jack the other features cannot be implemented.

Looks like it's making use of the existing wire-based controller built into these strobes. Most other manufacturers will have to create this type of system from scratch and won't be able to offer backward compatibility with it. This is a major competitive advantage for years to come.

Can someone explain this:
...relative flashpower using the European standard numerical 0 to 10 scale.

Nov 01, 2008 at 09:07 PM

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p.1 #7 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Elan II wrote:

Can someone explain this:
...relative flashpower using the European standard numerical 0 to 10 scale.

Currently PCB products show minus f-stops as the scale, ranging from "Full" to "-5f"

<Chas>

Nov 01, 2008 at 09:16 PM

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p.1 #8 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

If it delivers as advertised... this is the most revolutionary product to hit the lighting world in a decade, maybe more.

Paul, you've outdone yourself.

Nov 01, 2008 at 09:20 PM

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p.1 #9 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

I hope the commander has a PC port, the ability to have this much control with strobes while using a regular flash (what I do at present often) cannot be ignored.

Nov 01, 2008 at 10:00 PM

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p.1 #10 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Beni wrote:
I hope the commander has a PC port, the ability to have this much control with strobes while using a regular flash (what I do at present often) cannot be ignored.

Not quite.

Re-read the info - the only lights that can be modulated are PCB products. I *believe* that the corresponding receivers will have to plug in to the lights using Paul's RJ-xx phone jacks.

The only thing this will do for any non-PCB light is offer radio triggering with groups (much like the skyport).

Nov 01, 2008 at 10:25 PM

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Jonathan H wrote:
Beni wrote:
I hope the commander has a PC port, the ability to have this much control with strobes while using a regular flash (what I do at present often) cannot be ignored.

Not quite.

Re-read the info - the only lights that can be modulated are PCB products. I *believe* that the corresponding receivers will have to plug in to the lights using Paul's RJ-xx phone jacks.

The only thing this will do for any non-PCB light is offer radio triggering with groups (much like the skyport).

It can also meter non Buff lights and display the f stops on the CC. Grouping is almost infinite. F-stops of groups can be displayed.

Nov 02, 2008 at 12:30 AM

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p.1 #12 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Hi,

As along-time White Lightning fan, I'm very interested in this new system, but I'm curious about how the CSR+ (the AC-powered receiver) gets its power. It would be very convenient if it could be powered by the light's cord from the wall socket or a Voyager II battery. I hope the user wouldn't need to run a second power cord to each light just to power the receiver, though that might explain why they're offering the CSRB+, the battery-powered receiver. I'd appreciate any additional information on the Cyber Commander system. Thanks!

Jim Quinn

Nov 02, 2008 at 03:47 AM

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p.1 #13 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Jim,
The CSR+ is an AC powered device. It plugs into the light and the light cord plugs into it. There is a jack for the sync cord and the RJ-14 connector for the control channels.

the CSRs have the same AC power through arrangement. works like a charm and has the added benefit of being a pull out safety shoulc someone trip over the cord.

Nov 02, 2008 at 04:18 AM

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p.1 #14 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Hi Jim,

Here you go:

This image is copyrighted by the owner

The plug at the lower right goes into you flash head. and the regular power cord used for the flash head goes into the socket lower right of CSR (just under the words 50-240VAC...)

It should look like so then assembled:

This image is copyrighted by the owner

Cheers!

Nov 02, 2008 at 04:39 AM

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p.1 #15 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Paul - it meters too?

Hot damn. Anybody want to buy some Dynalite gear?

Nov 02, 2008 at 05:22 AM

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p.1 #16 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Does it work with Canon's flashes ?.

Nov 02, 2008 at 11:14 AM

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p.1 #17 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

It will fire them and tell you what F stop they deliver relative to the other flashes based on the initial setup.
They can be assigned a channel and included or excluded from a setup by programming the light channels into groups.

It will not change the power remotely, that requires the control channel connection that is proprietary to PCB products.

Nov 02, 2008 at 02:16 PM

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p.1 #18 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

I meant that I wanted to fire the commander via pc port. Infact that is exactly what I said.

Nov 02, 2008 at 02:43 PM

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p.1 #19 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Hi,

Thanks for the explanations and photos on the CSR (and CSR+) receiver. That's exactly what I hoped. I'll be ordering a set soon, along with a few more Alien Bees B800s and some other gear. Made in America - darned nice to see that!

Jim Quinn

Nov 02, 2008 at 04:16 PM

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p.1 #20 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Wow! This is too good to be true!

Nov 03, 2008 at 07:31 PM

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p.1 #21 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

I want to know how it meters the lights? Is it measuring some kind of voltage, or light? If it's light, how the heck is it metering it?

Nov 04, 2008 at 02:43 AM

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p.1 #22 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

Thanks dmward. Can it also fire a remote camera like PW ?

dmward wrote:
It will fire them and tell you what F stop they deliver relative to the other flashes based on the initial setup.
They can be assigned a channel and included or excluded from a setup by programming the light channels into groups.

It will not change the power remotely, that requires the control channel connection that is proprietary to PCB products.

Nov 04, 2008 at 03:56 AM

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p.1 #23 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

I want to know how it meters the lights? Is it measuring some kind of voltage, or light? If it's light, how the heck is it metering it?

Paul has said on his forum that it has a built-in reflected light meter (metering at the camera). That's not doing much for me, but the prospect of full control of Buff lights from the camera is something I found incredibly valuable with his older Radio Remote-One devices.

Also, he's said on his forum that he's started engineering on a C-cell powered flash system.

Nov 04, 2008 at 03:42 PM

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Nov 04, 2008 at 06:48 PM

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p.1 #25 · Alienbees Cyber Commander Information HERE

RDKirk wrote:
I want to know how it meters the lights? Is it measuring some kind of voltage, or light? If it's light, how the heck is it metering it?

Paul has said on his forum that it has a built-in reflected light meter (metering at the camera). That's not doing much for me, but the prospect of full control of Buff lights from the camera is something I found incredibly valuable with his older Radio Remote-One devices.

Also, he's said on his forum that he's started engineering on a C-cell powered flash system.

Wrong. It was incident/reflected with movable dome. I realized the reflected mode was not usable without metering zones so it is now only incident. That's why we suggest carrying it around like a flashmeter and firing from CST on your hotshoe. You can fire from either and, if you like, you can put CC on your hotshoe to adjust power and groups, etc., then take it off to do meter readings.

And yes, we're working diligently now on the C Cells built into Einstein 500. All of this is causing delays - but in product development, delays, like xxxx happen.

Nov 04, 2008 at 08:22 PM


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