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Tony Curado Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #1 · Delaware Water Gap Waterfalls Here you go! Oct 15, 2008 at 04:42 PM

bob.tullis Online Image Upload: Off p.1 #2 · Delaware Water Gap Waterfalls I really like these compositions, Tony. But then a disappointment sets in for the following: Img 1 - blown flow detail Img 2 - unsharp (movement, or focus?) Img 3 - looks like a Shadow/HL adjustment pushed a bit too far. Granted, these are challenging dynamic ranges. If shot in RAW, quite possibly while barely letting the HL's blow in the exposure, they can be recovered, and the shadows could be raised acceptably in post shot developing. I'll try that, and also take a few exposure for HDR rendering (water flow usually needs minor hand correction, mostly in the flats, but it usually works out). While I'm pointing out what would disappoint for my own captures, I still like these for what good they do show (a nice falls in the Fall). I think that last one could be re-worked for more satisfaction. er. . . would you be able to point me towards how I can find this location? Oct 15, 2008 at 04:54 PM

Tony Curado Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #3 · Delaware Water Gap Waterfalls hey bob, thanks for the comments. For image one and two I agree with you but for image three that already is an hdr now I know I'm the best at it but I don't like to go too crazy with it and I like the different effect it gives you. As for the location its Childs Park in PA right next to digimans falls this was my first time there and I look forward to going back there so thanks again for the advice it will help next time Tony Oct 15, 2008 at 05:56 PM

pearlstreet Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #4 · Delaware Water Gap Waterfalls The first is a bit blown in the water but I love the view you give in that shot. Really takes me there! Nice work. Sharon Oct 15, 2008 at 06:47 PM

bob.tullis Online Image Upload: Off p.1 #5 · Delaware Water Gap Waterfalls Thanks for the directions. I understand about the third image. To explain, I see first that broad mid-tone halo, where it's unnaturally dark or bright, respectively, at bright/dark borders of the flows - and have to fight that to see the larger picture. Understanding that's an HDR process now, I know it can be even better presented (granted, I can only speak for my taste). I'd suggest you watch for that while doing further Tone Mapping with HDRs. That effect can bring a bit of wanted depth to an image, but the effect should be subtle (less so, and maybe with a broader radius). That is, watch for it - to use as you prefer (you shouldn't have to please me, et.al). HDR can take some time to get really comfortable with. I've been using it for a while, yet can't tell you why I'm finding more satisfaction with the process than earlier. I only bother belaboring this because I see the potential there, and it's a wonderful composition. Oct 15, 2008 at 07:36 PM

mike reid Online Image Upload: On p.1 #6 · Delaware Water Gap Waterfalls looks great Tony, you can also try a polarizer/ND filter combo Oct 15, 2008 at 07:50 PM

RochinPhotog Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #7 · Delaware Water Gap Waterfalls I like the 1st one (minus the blown out section) I have to find this place. Maybe a FM shoot together spot. Not many of us up in this area. Oct 15, 2008 at 07:53 PM

Tony Curado Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #8 · Delaware Water Gap Waterfalls Thanks everyone again. RochinPhotog- if your familiar with the del gap go to the PA side and stop at the visitors center there they were very nice and pointed me to exactly where I wanted to go once again its called Childs park. Bob- I'm going to try and rework the hdr do you have any suggestions I'm kinda of new at it and I notice I can never get my images exactly like the hdr's I see online granted I do like a little bit less of an hdr feel but still struggle with my final products mike and pearl- thanks for taking a look Oct 15, 2008 at 08:39 PM

Tony Curado Offline Image Upload: On p.1 #9 · Delaware Water Gap Waterfalls so here is another one of the first not so blown out but looks a little dark to me what do you guys think? Oct 15, 2008 at 08:53 PM

RochinPhotog Offline Image Upload: Off p.1 #10 · Delaware Water Gap Waterfalls That one is a bit dark...After seeing that image it looks like it may not be blown out as much as I thought and more so just the water being "rougher" not flowing so you lose the detail. As far as location, I live about 45 min. from the area. Is it near the dingman ferry / toll bridge? Oct 15, 2008 at 09:33 PM

bob.tullis Online Image Upload: Off p.1 #11 · Delaware Water Gap Waterfalls Tony Curado wrote: so here is another one of the first not so blown out but looks a little dark to me what do you guys think? Yes, it is a bit dark, but it's a much more complete presentation than the blown ones (once you spot repair that dust mote from the flow area). There's detail in the flow that really makes a difference, as it's rather the subject. If this is from the same image (or the same HDR series), I expect it's just (sic?) a matter of being able to eke out the best of the shadows and highlights, which comes with practice. To answer the Q from up-topic, I really can't advice on the HDR technique. I used Photomatix, found it confusing, went to Enfuse (search google for "wiki enfuse"). But when I tired of the little control over the blend method, returned to Photomatix and just plugged away at it, often having to do an image more than once (had to let the results sit for a day at times, to better assess). Between the Tone Mapping and the subsequent PS processing, it's hard for me to guide, unless we take a particular image and walk through the process (holler if you like). Keep at it, as it's part of the path we've all had to take. Oct 15, 2008 at 09:44 PM

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