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p.1 #1 · MF Nikkors on FX - general thread


I don't know if there is such a thread already, but I found nothing upon searching. Admin or moderator; feel free to merge with any existing thread.

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This is what some might refer to as complete madness. I recently bought the not-so-cheap D700, and guess what? 4 out of my 5 lenses are manual focus old crap Nikkors. According to some. According to others, they are great, but not nearly as good as the 24-70, 14-24, 17-35, 70-200, blablablablabla. I don't give a damn! This thread is for us that likes the 24x36 mm format and manual focus lenses. And Nikon.
If you want to go Nikon, there is only two modern digital SLR:s that can bring you to nirvana. The D3 and the D700. Of course there are the Kodak cameras too, but that's another story.

Why buy a $3000 camera and use old crappy lenses? Well, because you love a large viewfinder, short depth of field, the mechanical feel of good ol' lenses. And for the heck of it. And, are these lenses crappy? Not at all, not at all.

So, I'd like this thread to be the Mekka for all of us that want to show pics, discuss sharpnesses, wheights, sizes, fastnesses, and every other aspect of using MF Nikkors on the flagships of the Nikon line.

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I'll begin with some pix with the D700 and my darlings. Crops might come later. Just ask if I forget it.

Nikkor 105/1.8 AIS @ f/11, ISO 5000. The horizontal lines are from the background, so it's not banding.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Makten/Nikkor_105/DSC_0645.jpg


Nikkor 35/1.4 AIS @ f/5.6, ISO 1400.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Makten/Nikkor_35/DSC_1155_2.jpg


Nikkor 35/1.4 AIS @ f/2, ISO 200.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Makten/Nikkor_35/DSC_1153_2.jpg


Nikkor-S 55/1.2 @ f/1.2, ISO 200.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Makten/DSC_0054_800.jpg


Nikkor-S 55/1.2 @ f/1.2, ISO 6400.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Makten/Nikkor-S%2055/DSC_0515.jpg


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Please post your own examples, recommendations, anything! But remember, this is an FX only thread.

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Oct 11, 2008 at 01:12 PM
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p.1 #2 · MF Nikkors on FX - general thread


That 55 1.2 is sweet!


Oct 11, 2008 at 01:13 PM
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Love this thread already! Might add some of my images....
Steve - can you sing for us!?



Oct 11, 2008 at 01:21 PM
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p.1 #4 · MF Nikkors on FX - general thread


Steve Perry wrote:
That 55 1.2 is sweet!


Indeed! But it has many flaws, and it takes some patience to get the best out of it. Wide open, it vignettes heavily and gives an awful amount of spherical aberration. None the less, detail sharpness is pretty good even wide open. It works best when used at really low light. In daylight; flare, ghosting and low contrast are really issues. At low light, coma is the worst thing you see. Here's an example @ f/1.2.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Makten/Nikkor-S%2055/DSC_0512.jpg



Oct 11, 2008 at 01:30 PM
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Why alienate all of us dx users who have ai-s glass










Well actually you never said digital fx so I suppose we could put up our film shots lolz....



Oct 11, 2008 at 01:37 PM
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I love the look you get from your 55 1.2. I'm in the process of trying to find out what to do with the normal fast-lens question. Some people say that I should forget trying to convert my rokkor 58 1.2 to nikon, and if that is the end result, I have to get a 50 1.2 AI(S?) or 55 1.2. I'm not quite sure which though





Oct 11, 2008 at 01:39 PM
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90 5.0 wrote:
Why alienate all of us dx users who have ai-s glass


Aaah, sorry man! I just thought that the confusion with examples from different formats would ruin the thread (seen that before). Why not start a similar thread for DX? I have quite alot of things to contribute with.

Well actually you never said digital fx so I suppose we could put up our film shots lolz....

Sure, why not? Probably digital FX behaves different than analogue, but it would still be interesting to see FF/FX shots with film.

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ulrikft wrote:
I love the look you get from your 55 1.2. I'm in the process of trying to find out what to do with the normal fast-lens question. Some people say that I should forget trying to convert my rokkor 58 1.2 to nikon, and if that is the end result, I have to get a 50 1.2 AI(S?) or 55 1.2. I'm not quite sure which though


If you want good sharpness and contrast at full aperture, I suggest you get the AIS 50/1.2. The 55 is lovely, but don't pay those Ebay prices! It is not worth it. F/1.4 gives almost as short DOF, and probably a common 50/1.4 (AF or MF) does the job better in most cases. I bought my 55 veeeeeery cheap, and I actually plan to get it replaced. Either with the 50/1.2 AIS or the new Nikkor 50/1.4 AF-S. Ooops, that's off topic.



Oct 11, 2008 at 01:58 PM
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A last treat before I get outside (it's 9 pm here) to take a walk and perhaps buy a couple of beer. I'll bring the 35/1.4.

Nikkor 105/1.8 AIS @ f/1.8.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Makten/Nikkor_105/DSC_1173_2.jpg



Oct 11, 2008 at 02:19 PM
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I like the bike shot, the others dont really do anything for me except have some nice colors


Oct 11, 2008 at 03:01 PM
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Makten wrote:
If you want good sharpness and contrast at full aperture, I suggest you get the AIS 50/1.2. The 55 is lovely, but don't pay those Ebay prices! It is not worth it. F/1.4 gives almost as short DOF, and probably a common 50/1.4 (AF or MF) does the job better in most cases. I bought my 55 veeeeeery cheap, and I actually plan to get it replaced. Either with the 50/1.2 AIS or the new Nikkor 50/1.4 AF-S. Ooops, that's off topic.


Do you think that it is best to get the AIS 50 1.2 new from bh or adorama? Or try to find one used? And what kind of prices should one pay for this beauty?




Oct 11, 2008 at 03:12 PM
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ulrikft wrote:
Do you think that it is best to get the AIS 50 1.2 new from bh or adorama? Or try to find one used? And what kind of prices should one pay for this beauty?




Buy it from here. You'll get a better deal. But if you must buy from either of the two, B+H is the way to go. I didn't have the best experience with Adorama and the used lens I purchased.



Oct 11, 2008 at 03:18 PM
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In fact, there is one available right now.
**I am in no way connected or associated to seller

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/690961



Oct 11, 2008 at 03:21 PM
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BenV wrote:
I like the bike shot, the others dont really do anything for me except have some nice colors


Thanks BenV, I really appreciate honest comments.

ulrikft wrote:
Do you think that it is best to get the AIS 50 1.2 new from bh or adorama? Or try to find one used? And what kind of prices should one pay for this beauty?


I have no idea. Let the prices guide you! I know it can be bought for reasonable prices (~$450?) brand new. It may seem expensive for a MF lens, but heck, it is supposed to be among the best normal lenses @ f/2. The build quality and mechanics of AIS lenses is very nice, so in my opinion they're worth their prices.



Oct 11, 2008 at 03:55 PM
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Edited on Oct 12, 2008 at 03:31 AM · View previous versions



Oct 11, 2008 at 04:34 PM
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phillip ino wrote:
In fact, there is one available right now.
**I am in no way connected or associated to seller

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/690961


Thanks for the tip! Sent the seller a pm





Oct 11, 2008 at 05:05 PM
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Makten wrote:
Thanks BenV, I really appreciate honest comments.

I have no idea. Let the prices guide you! I know it can be bought for reasonable prices (~$450?) brand new. It may seem expensive for a MF lens, but heck, it is supposed to be among the best normal lenses @ f/2. The build quality and mechanics of AIS lenses is very nice, so in my opinion they're worth their prices.


I just love old metal built, good mechanical manual focus lenses.. I paid about 300 usd for both my rokkors and after converting them and CLA-ing them, I suspect that I can get far more from them, I consider it an investment AND a joy to use

Thanks for your help so far! As a new nikonian, I'll be bugging you guys a lot the next weeks.. :P

(for instance, how do i get the d700 to fire away as fast as it should? i went into the menu and changed the shooting speed menu item, but it is slower than my 5fps 30d still, anything I should be aware of?)

And getting to know the advanced AF-system of the d700 is... a big task



Oct 11, 2008 at 05:07 PM
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I also have a 55/1.2 Nikkor-S which can't be mounted as-is, so I'm wondering where you got yours adapted?


Oct 11, 2008 at 08:58 PM
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i just picked up a 75-150mm f/3.5 series E, amazing zoom for under $100. bjorn and thom hogan rated it pretty highly too. taking it on vacation next week, should come back with pics for this thread.


Oct 11, 2008 at 11:59 PM
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musicandlight wrote:
I also have a 55/1.2 Nikkor-S which can't be mounted as-is, so I'm wondering where you got yours adapted?


Mine had an AI aperture ring when I bought it. You can file down the metal yourself if you are a bit handy, but you have to know what you're doing!

http://www.zi.ku.dk/personal/lhhansen/photo/repair/aimod/aimod.htm
http://rick_oleson.tripod.com/index-107.html

Edit: The stupid forum platform doesn't understand URL:s without "www", so you'll have to cut and paste the last one.



Oct 12, 2008 at 03:27 AM
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great thread and great pictures
i use 50mm f/1.4 AIS, 55mm f/2.8 AIS Micro-Nikkor and 105mm f/1.8 AIS

Here is some from yesterday with my 2 days old D700 and all with the 105mm wideopen at f/1.8:

http://www.peterfunch.dk/d700/_DSC0082.jpg

http://www.peterfunch.dk/d700/_DSC0108.jpg

http://www.peterfunch.dk/d700/_DSC0180.jpg




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