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BenV
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p.1 #1 · Another bad blow to Canon


Well after the entire 1d3 issue with the focusing and such, Im sure Canon wants to put that WAAAAY behind them, however, reports of the new 50D aren't looking so good.

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/695726/

take special note to the link halfway down the page.



Oct 09, 2008 at 09:28 PM
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p.1 #2 · Another bad blow to Canon


While its an interesting read for sure, it sounds almost exactly like what the "DBS" (dead battery syndrome) was with Nikon, which apparently plagued a number of models. The err99 problem in 50ds is linked to the batteries, so I'm guessing its basically the same thing.

Something about glass houses?

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Oct 09, 2008 at 09:38 PM
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p.1 #3 · Another bad blow to Canon


From that link halfway down:

"the ER99 error is due to an insufficient amount of Gold in the lens contacts on the body"

Holy crap, Canon cutting corners or something? Sounds like a big fuggup by them.




Oct 09, 2008 at 09:39 PM
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Mike Yam wrote:
From that link halfway down:

"the ER99 error is due to an insufficient amount of Gold in the lens contacts on the body"

Holy crap, Canon cutting corners or something? Sounds like a big fuggup by them.



ya, "older" 50D's will have a slower AF system, that sucks.



Oct 09, 2008 at 09:47 PM
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i haven't read the whole stuff there, but aren't there always a few models that exhibit a slight malfunction? Those early adopters are mainly people who can be seen on these forums a lot too, so these errors look excessive, i bet most of the 50D owners are plenty happy.

If not: sheesh that would really suck, back to manufacturing copiers i'd say...



Oct 10, 2008 at 12:32 AM
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p.1 #6 · Another bad blow to Canon


So far the report is from one service tech that could be spouting nonsense. Lets wait for some real word on what's up and see if anyone ever test out the difference.

Don't believe what you read on the internet or see on Fox News.

Then again... Canon is a photo copier company...



Oct 10, 2008 at 01:56 AM
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p.1 #7 · Another bad blow to Canon


Good points from you guys. These issues are always blown out of proportion on forums where you're dealing with enthusiasts and brand loyalties.


Oct 10, 2008 at 02:26 AM
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p.1 #8 · Another bad blow to Canon


Hmm, reminds me of the 1DIII problems. People would post, then half of them would say "No problems here", or "you're doing it wrong", or similar but turned out bad. Glad I made the switch back to Nikon!

Steve



Oct 10, 2008 at 06:33 AM
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Steve Perry wrote:
Hmm, reminds me of the 1DIII problems. People would post, then half of them would say "No problems here", or "you're doing it wrong", or similar but turned out bad. Glad I made the switch back to Nikon!

Steve


True, but with nikon cameras you'll always get: My D-whatever tends to overexpose, buy at least 1 stop. Then you'll see several testshots of empty cokebottles or mailboxes.



Oct 10, 2008 at 06:46 AM
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p.1 #10 · Another bad blow to Canon


Ben, do we really need this type of thread here I shoot both disciplines but come over here (Nikon Forum) to get away from this crap...
or so I thought.



Oct 10, 2008 at 06:53 AM
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p.1 #11 · Another bad blow to Canon


Doesn't seem to me that this is any worse than the dead battery syndrome on the D300's (and D200's and D80's and apparently even D700's - and the D80 and D200 versions only JUST NOW got fixed! D700 isn't fixed yet.)

Gerald



Oct 10, 2008 at 07:28 AM
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chemprof wrote:
Doesn't seem to me that this is any worse than the dead battery syndrome on the D300's (and D200's and D80's and apparently even D700's - and the D80 and D200 versions only JUST NOW got fixed! D700 isn't fixed yet.)

Gerald


Sorry, don't mean to go OT BUT - Do you any more info on this? One time in Yellowstone a couple weeks ago my D300 had a full battery but then would flash that it was dead. Turn it off and on it's good again till I pressed the shutter. Popping out the battery fixed it, but I didn't know it was an known bug.

Steve



Oct 10, 2008 at 08:01 AM
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trenchmonkey wrote:
Ben, do we really need this type of thread here I shoot both disciplines but come over here (Nikon Forum) to get away from this crap...
or so I thought.


just thought I'd spread the EOSfun, lololol.


I normally dont post this type of crap, but thought it was fairly interesting, so I had to.



Oct 10, 2008 at 08:04 AM
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Steve Perry wrote:
Hmm, reminds me of the 1DIII problems. People would post, then half of them would say "No problems here", or "you're doing it wrong", or similar but turned out bad. Glad I made the switch back to Nikon!
Steve


We're glad you went back to Nikon too. It keeps the Canon blood pure.



Oct 10, 2008 at 08:05 AM
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Steve Perry wrote:
Hmm, reminds me of the 1DIII problems. People would post, then half of them would say "No problems here", or "you're doing it wrong", or similar but turned out bad. Glad I made the switch back to Nikon!

Steve


I stood up for Canon on a bunch of other forums and my Mark III was doing fine. That was until a couple weeks ago when the Mark III decided to just stop autofocusing for me all together. Off to Canon for repair and then it is off to the auction block.

I shot Nikon from 2001 to 2006 and now I am back to Nikon and cannot believe all that I have been missing out on. When I switched to Canon, it was because they had the edge on the SLR market with full frame sensors, faster glass and whatnot while Nikon stuck to the same ol' 6-10mp bodies with poor ISO.

Now, I think Nikon trumps canon in every department except faster glass. I would rather loose a stop of light and have sharp images than have that extra play and have oof ones any day!



Oct 10, 2008 at 08:28 AM
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Steve Perry wrote:
Sorry, don't mean to go OT BUT - Do you any more info on this? One time in Yellowstone a couple weeks ago my D300 had a full battery but then would flash that it was dead. Turn it off and on it's good again till I pressed the shutter. Popping out the battery fixed it, but I didn't know it was an known bug.

Steve


Yes, that's the problem. I've had it a few times with my D200, but not my D300 (go figure). The latest firmware updates are supposed to fix this (check the Nikon site).

Gerald



Oct 10, 2008 at 08:36 AM
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shutter2speak wrote:
I stood up for Canon on a bunch of other forums and my Mark III was doing fine. That was until a couple weeks ago when the Mark III decided to just stop autofocusing for me all together. Off to Canon for repair and then it is off to the auction block.


I am not defending Canon but that situation can happen to you with a Nikon camera or with any other camera for that matter. That's the reason they have a professional service center. If you switch system (including all lenses) each time your camera fails you, it could be really expensive but whatever floats your boat .



Oct 10, 2008 at 08:47 AM
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as bad as DBS. and i'm not vouching for nikon so much either. i've already had two lenses go back to them this year.


Oct 10, 2008 at 08:48 AM
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trenchmonkey wrote:
Ben, do we really need this type of thread here I shoot both disciplines but come over here (Nikon Forum) to get away from this crap...
or so I thought.


Same here, Will, and I am enjoying both, I may add .



Oct 10, 2008 at 09:02 AM
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p.1 #20 · Another bad blow to Canon


Man, I'm sure every camera has its little quirks that need to get worked out.

Actually, there is something called the "bathtub distribution" that refers to the defect rate of any product over time. It's because the defect rate is relatively high initially (like 2-5% or even higher) as the "teething problems" are worked out. The defect rate then stabilizes at something reasonable throughout the lifetime of the product and then shoots up again as the product enters its end-of-life.

So no need to gloat over Canon's bathtub distribution. This is why I'm glad I'm always behind the tech curve

BTW Josh, do post up some pictures taken with your Nikon gear sometime. Just be sure to tell us the tech details of each shot



Oct 10, 2008 at 09:30 AM
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