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Oct 01, 2008 at 01:25 AM
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boomertim1 wrote:
It's about.... time you got a new computer!

:-)

Sorry.. i could not resist.
It's about a guy that pulls his HUGE camera with a trailer. It's a MUST SEE.


Actually, I bought one new notebook and built another computer system just this year. However, neither are connected to the internet.

EBH


Oct 01, 2008 at 01:27 AM
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PetKal wrote:
John Power wrote:

He is a testament to the fact that art is not limited to technical advances.


"Testament" in your intended context is a sort of malapropism.
"Testimony" would have been more appropriate.
BTW, your English aside, I agree with the message proper.


You are wrong.

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Oct 01, 2008 at 01:28 AM
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J.D. wrote:
Dneufarth wrote:
Every photographer on FM should watch this video.


x2

+3

Oct 01, 2008 at 01:30 AM
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trenchmonkey wrote:
Well, so much for handheld images! Thanks, Sam...most interesting.


NP, I try to keep interesting in the gear forums and get us all away from the brand wars

Oct 01, 2008 at 01:33 AM
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GeneO wrote:
Enjoyed this video a lot. Thanks for posting it Sam.

Gene

Glad you liked it

Oct 01, 2008 at 01:33 AM
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I think the process is pretty cool, and the way he creates the image is extremely inventive. The resulting images have a totally unique feel and a very cool, emotive quality to them.

On the down side, I don't particularly care for his compositions. They are rather flat and ordinary. Several of the images shown in the video I thought were pretty boring. But...there were a few where the ordinary composition, with the unique rendering of the scene is what MADE it a good image. Overall, I'm very impressed with the technique and the resulting feel of the photos, but for me, anyway, the overall success of his images is rather hit and miss. Looking at his website, for my taste, anyway, there are more misses than hits.

But what do I know...my photos are generally only 'OK' with little real unique vision to separate them from the thousands of competent people with cameras. He has certainly separated himself from the pack and created a truly unique way to look at the world, which I guess is one of the main goals of photography.





Oct 01, 2008 at 01:37 AM
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Jman13 wrote:
I think the process is pretty cool, and the way he creates the image is extremely inventive. The resulting images have a totally unique feel and a very cool, emotive quality to them.

On the down side, I don't particularly care for his compositions. They are rather flat and ordinary. Several of the images shown in the video I thought were pretty boring. But...there were a few where the ordinary composition, with the unique rendering of the scene is what MADE it a good image. Overall, I'm very impressed with the technique and the resulting feel of the photos, but for me, anyway, the overall success of his images is rather hit and miss. Looking at his website, for my taste, anyway, there are more misses than hits.

But what do I know...my photos are generally only 'OK' with little real unique vision to separate them from the thousands of competent people with cameras. He has certainly separated himself from the pack and created a truly unique way to look at the world, which I guess is one of the main goals of photography.






I sort of agree with you on a few things such as his composition. plus we really dont get to see these images head on to be able to really take a hard look and critique them. but he does mention his childhood and how this is what he likes. so hey whatever does it for him...more power to him...

Oct 01, 2008 at 01:39 AM
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John Power wrote:
PetKal wrote:
John Power wrote:

He is a testament to the fact that art is not limited to technical advances.


"Testament" in your intended context is a sort of malapropism.
"Testimony" would have been more appropriate.
BTW, your English aside, I agree with the message proper.


You are wrong.


Wrong or right, that often comes to a viewpoint one holds. Just remember though, our own usage of the English language often gets influenced by the trade jargon we practice.

Oct 01, 2008 at 01:45 AM
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Very nice..thanks for sharing that.

Oct 01, 2008 at 02:04 AM
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How boring! The poor guy can only take pictures with his camera; no whining about high ISO, no pixel-peeping for line/pair per mm, no crying over what didn't come on the camera, no video, no Print button.

I know the word for that miserable condition. . . "photography".

Oct 01, 2008 at 02:05 AM
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JDSA wrote:
How boring! The poor guy can only take pictures with his camera; no whining about high ISO, no pixel-peeping for line/pair per mm, no crying over what didn't come on the camera, no video, no Print button.

I know the word for that miserable condition. . . "photography".


amen dude

Oct 01, 2008 at 02:28 AM
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I wonder if he ever sees a scene and wishes he had his camera with him?

Oct 01, 2008 at 02:33 AM
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Wow. That guy's really into his gear.

Unfortunately, there's no effective way to do a rim-shot on a message board.

Oct 01, 2008 at 02:35 AM
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Shouldn't this video be posted over on the alternative forums?


Very interesting video!




Oct 01, 2008 at 02:50 AM
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John Power wrote:
PetKal wrote:
John Power wrote:

He is a testament to the fact that art is not limited to technical advances.


"Testament" in your intended context is a sort of malapropism.
"Testimony" would have been more appropriate.
BTW, your English aside, I agree with the message proper.


You are wrong.


You are right, he is wrong.

Oct 01, 2008 at 04:05 AM
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An obviously inspirational video, and a very cool idea.

owever, it bothers me a bit that he said he doesn't use a light meter or time the shots, etc. He just guesses on the timing and "hand filtering" intuitively.

As you can see briefly in that video, some of his shots were overexposed to the point of being less than they might have been, and they are probably only showing the best that he's taken.

Lazy art is still art, but it doesn't impress me quite as much as art that's made to the best of the artist's abilities.
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BTW- Where the heck do you get photographic paper that large? Is he actually making it himself?

Oct 01, 2008 at 04:08 AM
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Cableaddict wrote:
John Power wrote:
PetKal wrote:
John Power wrote:

He is a testament to the fact that art is not limited to technical advances.


"Testament" in your intended context is a sort of malapropism.
"Testimony" would have been more appropriate.
BTW, your English aside, I agree with the message proper.


You are wrong.


You are right, he is wrong.

1. That was a great video.

2. I don't get the need to try and correct publicly for something so petty, especially if the criticism is incorrect....

Oct 01, 2008 at 04:10 AM
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Impressive, what the art of light should be about.

Inspirational, unlike the bitching that goes on about corner sharpness at +20MP

Ruy

Oct 01, 2008 at 04:53 AM
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Cableaddict wrote:
John Power wrote:
PetKal wrote:
John Power wrote:

He is a testament to the fact that art is not limited to technical advances.


"Testament" in your intended context is a sort of malapropism.
"Testimony" would have been more appropriate.
BTW, your English aside, I agree with the message proper.


You are wrong.


You are right, he is wrong.


You are wrong. He, which is I, is right.
Besides, Cable, neither John nor I have been looking for an arbiter in this matter.


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Oct 01, 2008 at 05:09 AM
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He is breaking tons of "rules" which is good/OK because he explained why he is doing it and my guess is that he is good photograher in the typical sense...and he actually made some sense in explaining it. So I'm good with what he is doing...thinking outside the box (sort of...maybe inside the box a bit too).

Oct 01, 2008 at 05:19 AM
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PetKal wrote:
Cableaddict wrote:
John Power wrote:
PetKal wrote:
John Power wrote:

He is a testament to the fact that art is not limited to technical advances.


"Testament" in your intended context is a sort of malapropism.
"Testimony" would have been more appropriate.
BTW, your English aside, I agree with the message proper.


You are wrong.


You are right, he is wrong.


You are wrong. He, which is I, is right.
Besides, Cable, neither John nor I have been looking for an arbiter in this matter.


I think that you may be right.

Regardless, I like Chiara's work.


Oct 01, 2008 at 07:13 AM
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I admire him greatly.

While the use of lightmeters and computerized image processing can lead to more technically "correct" images, fine art is often as much about the process as about the result.

If one were to only look at the finished pictures, one could easily say that the composition was flawed, the exposure was off, etc.; but if one knew that the image was made in a mobile camera obscura by an artist who used only his intuition and experience for exposure control, one couldn't help, in my opinion, but to be moved by the experience.

His work gives testimony to the lengths some artists will go to for their craft,
and he is a testament to the fact that in the best of cases,
an artist is his art.

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Oct 01, 2008 at 07:16 AM
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Wow, that was impressive! Thanks for sharing this!

Oct 01, 2008 at 07:21 AM
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Great stuff. Pretty inspirational. Thanks for posting this Sam.

Oct 01, 2008 at 08:14 AM

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