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p.18 #1 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

Sure will Sean. I'm jammed for this weekend but maybe when you get back we can trample on over to the Brickworks for a lens workout. That 14mm you have is actually the next one on my list

Have a great trip.....

Brian

Dec 11, 2008 at 08:37 PM

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p.18 #2 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

If you guys want to make yourselves useful, then please increase the chance of DxO adding lens profiles for Canon's latest primes by filling out the form here:

http://www.dxo.com/intl/photo/support/modules/availability/pb_availability

If you would include the EF 24mm f/1.4L II USM and the EF 14mm f/2.8L II USM, then I and many others, I am sure, would be grateful.

Btw bmstudios, you rock! I can't wait for mine.

Br, Kim

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Dec 11, 2008 at 09:26 PM

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p.18 #3 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

Bmstudios, maybe you can shot the mk1 side by side with the mk2 since you seem to have both versions ? It would be so nice of you to do that !

Dec 11, 2008 at 09:28 PM

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p.18 #4 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

nazdravanul wrote:
Bmstudios, maybe you can shot the mk1 side by side with the mk2 since you seem to have both versions ? It would be so nice of you to do that !

I will as soon as I can

Dec 11, 2008 at 11:07 PM

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p.18 #5 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

Oh - and while you're at it...compare the Nikkor 14-24 with G-EOS adapter :-)

Dec 11, 2008 at 11:15 PM

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p.18 #6 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

Anon Moss wrote:
Oh - and while you're at it...compare the Nikkor 14-24 with G-EOS adapter :-)

The death knell for the Nikkor 14-24 is it's inability to accept filters of any kind. It absolutely kills it for landscapers.

Dec 12, 2008 at 05:14 AM

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p.18 #7 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

Tom, please - "death knell", "inability to accept filters", "absolutely kills it for landscapers"...what's with the hyperbole?
As has been established, the 14-24G is a world class lens...and comparisons between it and the new Canon 24LII are inevitable and warranted. It remains to be seen how the new 24LII will stack up. I'm optimistic, and personally hope that the new 24LII will be a great lens as I am primarily a Canon shooter (I have owned the 24LI and currently own the 14-24G) and I would love to see Canon significantly improve the wide primes. I'm just curious about how the 24LII and the 14-24G will compare and am trying to be open-minded about their respective strengths and weaknesses.
Obviously, the 24LII is faster, it works natively on Canon bodies...it accepts filters easily, it autofocuses...and it will report full EXIF information - those are all nice and desirable features. It will likely be the best in class at 24mm for low-light work and where autofocus is needed.
The $64K question for me is...how sharp will it be across the lens into the edges and corners with the new hi rez bodies for critical applications?
Landscapers aren't the only shooters interested in these lenses, but since you bring landscapers up...which lens will have a clear advantage for them? The 24LII's speed is not needed. Manual focus isn't a deal-breaker with the 14-24G...especially now with the new high rez LCDs and the ability to achieve critical focus in LiveView. Landscapers HAVE been using filters with the 14-24G, such as with the LEE adapter - it's not elegant, but there are work-arounds...do a search on the topic. Lastly, the 14-24G is about the same $$ (even with the adapter cost figured in) and it also works VERY well at all its other focal lengths.
I think some methodical landscape and architectural shooters might prefer the 14-24G when you consider it's versatility. For convenience and low light people shooting...I would want the 24LII in my bag. Having both would be ideal for me - but pricey.
Cheers,
Scott

Dec 12, 2008 at 07:17 AM

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p.18 #8 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

Scott, Excellent post.

I would not think of the 24L as a landscapers lens.....but that's just me. The 16-35 L II is what I use and enjoy. The 17-40 produces incredible results when used properly.

To me the 24L is a specialty lens due to it's speed. I'll be getting one.

I am unaware of Lee filters fitting the 14-24. If that were the case then that changes everything.

Marc Adamas for example uses the 17-40 and the 16-35 for the vast majority of his landscape work. The addition of filters makes his work stand out as some of the finest in this or any other country. Check out his gallery at this link and take a look at the equipment and filters he list used in each photo: http://www.timecatcher.com/main.cfm?p=01_110&UtilisateurID=8

Now......if the 14-24 CAN in fact use filters such as GND's and Circ polarizes........then....well........that would be crowned King of Landscape lenses in my eyes.

Link me to the filters that fit the 14-24 if you can. I'm off to a Google search as soon as I hit the "send reply" button.

**Update** After a few minutes of research I am seeing many reviews with quotes like this about filter use on the 14-24, "The only bugbear will be for those wishing to use filter effects as this will prove difficult with the concave front element."

Some fellow rigged up a home made rig for his Lee system but it was for DX and not Full frame.

Dec 12, 2008 at 07:36 AM

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p.18 #9 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

Wouldn't the Canon 14mm 2.8L II make a nice wide landscape lens? That's what I'm getting next for an ultra wide prime.....

Dec 12, 2008 at 12:17 PM

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p.18 #10 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

bm, how did u get it? b&h has no idea when theyll be getting it, even what the msrp will be...

Dec 12, 2008 at 03:25 PM

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p.18 #11 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

Campus Camera in Ohio received one yesterday and posted on Ebay for $1750. I used Live Cashback on it and got $200 off. Will receive it by Monday.

I called them before placing my order. They said they only received one unit, and posted on Ebay right away since nobody has them yet. They also received a few 5D MK2s... I don't know if those were pre-ordered or not, but those of you looking for the 5D2 might want to give them a call and try your luck.

My pre-ordered 24L2 on Amazon still says it will be delivered sometime in January... I'm wondering if I should cancel the order or resell it on Ebay when I receive it... will there be a shortage on an exotic lens like the 24L?

Dec 12, 2008 at 03:44 PM

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p.18 #12 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

How many folks are also interested in the 24LII because of its even shorter minimal focus distance? The MFD should open up new creativity.

Dec 12, 2008 at 03:46 PM

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p.18 #13 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

Not me, I wan't it for better corner resolution on a 1DsIII. My other L zooms (24-105 and 16-35) are far from perfect. My future include lenses which are optimal at f/5.6. This way my 1DS4 at (50 megapixels?) won't be diffraction limited.

Also for night shots with movement, f/1.4 would be handy. IS is worthless if anything moves as you know.

Dec 12, 2008 at 03:59 PM

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p.18 #14 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

BM-Studios, how much did you end up paying for the lens?

/David

Dec 12, 2008 at 05:36 PM

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p.18 #15 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

14mm is too wide .... for me anyway, but of course YMMV. My preferred landscape lens will be the ZE 21 Distagon.

bmstudios wrote:
Wouldn't the Canon 14mm 2.8L II make a nice wide landscape lens? That's what I'm getting next for an ultra wide prime.....

Dec 12, 2008 at 05:43 PM

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p.18 #16 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

markymarc wrote:
How many folks are also interested in the 24LII because of its even shorter minimal focus distance? The MFD should open up new creativity.

That is a powerful reason for me to buy this lens. Narrow dof already lends itself to incredible artistic possibilities........but.........adding a shorter minimal focusing distance makes it that much more versatile.

Dec 12, 2008 at 05:51 PM

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p.18 #17 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

Kim Bentsen wrote:
Not me, I wan't it for better corner resolution on a 1DsIII. My other L zooms (24-105 and 16-35) are far from perfect. My future include lenses which are optimal at f/5.6. This way my 1DS4 at (50 megapixels?) won't be diffraction limited.

Also for night shots with movement, f/1.4 would be handy. IS is worthless if anything moves as you know.

IS is perfect for night shots with movement!
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/12/i-find-it-kind.html

Dec 12, 2008 at 06:00 PM

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p.18 #18 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

bmstudios wrote:
Wouldn't the Canon 14mm 2.8L II make a nice wide landscape lens?

It suuuuure does. I would put it head to head against the 14-24 nikor any day... AT 14mm obviously. Yes, it can be too wide sometimes. Hence the 24mm or Zeiss 21mm would make excellent companions.

Dec 12, 2008 at 06:03 PM

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p.18 #19 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

ptys wrote:
Kim Bentsen wrote:
Not me, I wan't it for better corner resolution on a 1DsIII. My other L zooms (24-105 and 16-35) are far from perfect. My future include lenses which are optimal at f/5.6. This way my 1DS4 at (50 megapixels?) won't be diffraction limited.

Also for night shots with movement, f/1.4 would be handy. IS is worthless if anything moves as you know.

IS is perfect for night shots with movement!
http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2008/12/i-find-it-kind.html

Good point. Many of us might become better photographers if we could only free ourselves of myth, doctrine, old rules and cliches.

Dec 12, 2008 at 06:05 PM

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p.18 #20 · EF 24mm f/1.4L II master thread

Sean Mills wrote:
bmstudios wrote:
Wouldn't the Canon 14mm 2.8L II make a nice wide landscape lens?

It suuuuure does. I would put it head to head against the 14-24 nikor any day... AT 14mm obviously. Yes, it can be too wide sometimes. Hence the 24mm or Zeiss 21mm would make excellent companions.

The 14 2.8 mk2 will kick serious 14 - 24 butt in the WOW factor department. Colors, contrast, saturation, brightness , vignetting, will be better on the Canon prime, the only serious thing where Nikon will take the edge : corners and edge sharpness. And also cost and cost quality ratio definitely goes to the Nikon zoom : for the price of the prime (or even cheaper) you get superb prime-like resolution, sharpness and distortion correction in the incredibly convenient 14-24 zoom package. But this doesn't translate into overall spectacular IQ quality - this is still Canon territory at 14 mm (: . That's why I personally opted for the Canon prime and I'm eagerly waiting also for the 24 1.4 mk2 to arrive (:.

Dec 12, 2008 at 06:16 PM

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