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p.1 #1 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

Canon has just released the highly anticipated EOS 5DII. This new digital SLR offers a 21,1 MP CMOS sensor, 3.9 f/s shooting, a faster DIGIC 4 image processor and expandable ISO to 25600 among many new features. What's new?

• 21.1 Megapixel Full-frame CMOS sensor, 14-bit A/D conversion (16,384 colors/each of 3 primary color), wide range ISO setting of 100-6400 (expandable L: 50, H1: 12800 and H2: 25600).
• Automatic peripheral illumination correction.
• Magnesium alloy construction with 'additional' environmental protection
• Full HD Video capture at 1920 x 1080 resolution for up to 4GB per clip with HDMI output for HD viewing of stills and video.
• Next generation DIGIC 4 Image Processor for faster processing of fine detail and color reproduction as well as reduced image noise.
• High performance with 3.9 fps continuous shooting, new shutter with a durability of 150,000 cycles and improved weather-resistant body.
• Live View Function for stills (Quick, Live and Face Detection AF modes) and video.
• 3.0-inch Clear View LCD (920,000 dots/VGA) monitor with anti-reflective and scratch-resistant coatings for improved viewing and smudge protection.
• Updated EOS Integrated Cleaning System specifically designed to work with a full-frame sensor.
• 9 AF points + 6 Assist AF points.
• UDMA memory card compatibility: Maximum 310 large JPEG images in a single burst with a UDMA card.
• Suggested price: $ 2,700

For more info, please check Canon's website directly.

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Sep 17, 2008 at 05:15 AM

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p.1 #2 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

The wait continues, I won't be buying this camera.

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:18 AM

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p.1 #3 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

And now for the critical assessment and comparisons!

Mark

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:19 AM

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p.1 #4 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

too sad, it doesn't have environmental seal for the body, I think i am gonna keep my 5D MK1.

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:19 AM

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p.1 #5 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

I think its a great camera, so folks who currently own the 5D .. please upgrade and sell the 5D for cheap soon. I've been dying to buy a FF.

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:20 AM

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p.1 #6 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

From RG:

The 5D Mark II's sensor also features the same light-gathering area within each pixel (called the fill ratio) and same microlens coverage over each pixel as the company's current flagship.

no gapless sensor?

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Hm, imaging resource claims they are using the gapless microlenses

A couple of improvements from the Canon 50D's image sensor also make their way into the 5D Mark II's imager - an improvement in the per-pixel light sensitive area, and gapless microlenses

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Sep 17, 2008 at 05:20 AM

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p.1 #7 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

But...will it blend? (Lets hope not!)

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:21 AM

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p.1 #8 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

my primary criteria: resolution & dynamic range.

resolution: big step up from 5D - DR: some improvements in
graduations - small step but probably worthwhile.
price: when it goes down a tad on the street i ll get one.

live view, micro adjust, screen, etc: all catch up

btw.: wide angle: only the 24 reworked? ZE 21 here i come!

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:21 AM

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p.1 #9 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

fugu wrote:
From RG:

The 5D Mark II's sensor also features the same light-gathering area within each pixel (called the fill ratio) and same microlens coverage over each pixel as the company's current flagship.

no gapless sensor?

wow I seriosuly hope that is a typo and they didnt hold even the sensor back for the 1dsmkiv.

if they held back gapless microlenses and coupled that with exact same AF as 5D and 4fps, after three years? and still won't have it out until as late as late novemember?

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:22 AM

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p.1 #10 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

I won't be buying it either. I like my 1D Mark II which has been an incredible workhorse.

To bad too. I was really looking forward to moving to a full frame camera, but maybe the used 1Ds Mark III cameras will drop significantly in price.

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Sep 17, 2008 at 05:23 AM

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p.1 #11 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

I am incredibly excited for this. Can't wait to try it out.

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:23 AM

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p.1 #12 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

Another body HAS to be coming at photokina.

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:24 AM

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p.1 #13 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

Autofocus The 5D Mark II's AF system, including its CMOS AF sensor, carries over mostly unaltered from the 5D, and is comprised of nine AF points plus six Assist AF points. The centre AF point acts as a cross-type sensor with lenses whose maximum aperture are f/5.6 or faster. If an f/2.8 or faster lens is used, the centre AF point detects focus with triple the precision of slower lenses.

They could have revamped the AF a tiny bit? :P We can hope that the lightning fast (from one user preview) AF from the 50d carries over?

Resolution looks good!
ISO looks good!
Viewfinder looks good!
fps looks a bit slow.
Weather sealing? Well, jury is out I guess, but looks notsogood.
af micro adjust? good!
video? irrelevant for me as of now, but ok!

Let me know when previews/reviews come in!

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:25 AM

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p.1 #14 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

Comparing to 5D:

- The same shutter, mirror and most everything else you find inside the mirror box
- Shutter lag remains almost identical, at a Canon-specified 73ms
- The same AF as 5D, they didn't even use the new AF from 50D
- maximum frame rate is 3.9 fps and the buffer is 14 RAW frames

I'm glad at least they used the new LCD!

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:26 AM

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p.1 #15 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

Napalm wrote:
Another body HAS to be coming at photokina.
still think its a 7d
16.7MP FF
new sensor tech 50d,5dmk2
5-7 fps
3 inch display,920k
98 percent VF
live view
digic 4

no video

2200.00 body

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Sep 17, 2008 at 05:27 AM

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p.1 #16 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

I too am worried they left out the gapless. Would be a shame to have a newer/better technology in the 50D. I really hope that's an accidental omission.

I am, however, suprised that EF-S lenses will work. Will be curious to read what the sensor scales down to with a crop lens mounted.

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:27 AM

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p.1 #17 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

Can't believe they left the same AF in there. WTF.

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:27 AM

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p.1 #18 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

For some of the events in my visual anthropology I would love the video for shorts. I don't understand though about the 4gb. What is the maximum storage for the camera?

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:27 AM

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p.1 #19 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

tomdos wrote:
I am, however, suprised that EF-S lenses will work. Will be curious to read what the sensor scales down to with a crop lens mounted.

That's a mistake, surely

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:30 AM

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p.1 #20 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

At least we still have a direct-to-print button!

I may buy this camera simply because I have a use for limited-length, non optimized video recording with lousy audio. (it certainly won't replace a dedicated camcorder.)

-But JEEZ, this is not even close to the camera I'd hoped for. It seems everyone is underwhelmed,and with good reason.

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:31 AM

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p.1 #21 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

snowboarder wrote:
Comparing to 5D:

- The same AF as 5D, they didn't even use the new AF from 50D

I believe the 5DII will have the 40/50D AF system type (+aux AF points) which is an improvement over 5D I.

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:31 AM

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p.1 #22 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

One thing is very intriguing-

they show the new battery grip (meet the new boss, same as the old boss...) but then they also show a DIFFERENT grip mounted, that says "wireless file transmitter."

I assume that means the transmitter is built into this second grip. I guess that's a good thing if you intend to buy the transmitter right away. It kind of sucks if you want to buy a grip now, and maybe buy a transmitter later.

Well, it's a small point, and I guess that's what Ebay / FM sales is for.

I wonder how far that transmitter can go, and if it needs a clear line-of-sight?
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Another thought: How cool would it be if that transmitter could also be used as a flash trigger?

-And as long as I'm dreaming - too bad it doesn't say "transceiver." How friggin' cool would it be if you could also control the camera from your laptop without any extra on-camera hardware?

If it did that, Canon would definitely have my attention.

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:32 AM

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p.1 #23 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

digitalbug30d wrote:
Napalm wrote:
Another body HAS to be coming at photokina.
still think its a 7d
16.7MP FF
new sensor tech 50d,5dmk2
5-7 fps
3 inch display,920k
98 percent VF
live view
digic 4

no video

2200.00 body

Canon would have done it the other way round if true, lower spec camera now and higher spec camera just before photokina. Sorry you've seen their entire announcements related to lenses and DSLR's now - 50D, 5D II, 24L II

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:32 AM

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p.1 #24 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

jamato8 wrote:
For some of the events in my visual anthropology I would love the video for shorts. I don't understand though about the 4gb. What is the maximum storage for the camera?

Wiki:
he maximum possible size for a file on a FAT32 volume is 4 GB minus 1 "null" byte (232−1 bytes). Video applications, large databases, and some other software easily exceed this limit.

Sep 17, 2008 at 05:32 AM

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p.1 #25 · Canon 5D Mark II master thread

The non-gapless sensor would be a joke, unless they're just using the same sensor as the 1ds3 as I suspected earlier...

If it's indeed a new sensor, and not just a firmware update, wouldn't 1ds3 users be clamoring for a sensor swap?

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