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Fred,

Thank you so very much for providing such a valuable free resource that is used by so many. If you need to subsidize the cost of providing this wonderful resource, by all means do so. I do not fear nor am I annoyed by the free enterprise system. Not only that, because of the manner in which you operate this forum I will be far more likely to support those who would invest and advertise here. Have you ever considered a PayPal donate link? If members are truly concerned about banner ads, color schemes and animations, they could voluntarily solve the problem entirely with one simple click by making their own investment in the cost of providing this forum.

Sep 19, 2008 at 05:19 AM
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butchM wrote:
Fred,

Thank you so very much for providing such a valuable free resource that is used by so many. If you need to subsidize the cost of providing this wonderful resource, by all means do so. I do not fear nor am I annoyed by the free enterprise system. Not only that, because of the manner in which you operate this forum I will be far more likely to support those who would invest and advertise here. Have you ever considered a PayPal donate link? If members are truly concerned about banner ads, color schemes and animations, they could voluntarily solve the problem entirely with one simple click by making their own investment in the cost of providing this forum.




butchM there are many of us who are already supporting this site with our subscriptions to the buy/sell and image upload subscriptions, many also buy actions and other software from the site.


Matt

Sep 19, 2008 at 05:22 AM
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Matt OHarver wrote:
butchM there are many of us who are already supporting this site with our subscriptions to the buy/sell and image upload subscriptions, many also buy actions and other software from the site.

Matt


Yeah ... apparently that isn't enough to offset the cost of providing the forum. If you are subscribing to the buy/sell, you are receiving a service for your subscription. If you are purchasing actions and software, you are receiving a product in return. It's not as if Fred is gouging or creating undue stress for anyone. While "many of us" are participating financially, there are far more taking a free ride. In fact, if you polled the membership, I think you may be amazed at how many that frequent here aren't even aware that Fred offers actions. How many threads have you seen that discuss Fred's products? While other similar products are discussed ad infinitum. You'll have to forgive me if I am not alarmed by the appearance of a single banner in order to access the benefits of this forum.

Sep 19, 2008 at 02:09 PM
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p.4 #4 · FM advertising


Fred Miranda wrote:
Everyone,
I understand that is hard to get used to this. I'm having a very hard time myself...

Please understand that is very expensive for me to run this site. It has really grown into a huge community and as a photographer I promise that I will do everything I can to keep this as discreet as possible. I have already contacted them about adjusting the color scheme and I do think it was a good suggestion. Also, I'm going to try my best to stick with photography related advertisements. You may have notice that this year I have made a lot of improvements to the site's speed, reliability, code, features, etc...
None of this is free and people charge me a lot for the bandwidth and their services when working on programming. If I were a rich guy who could afford to do all of this on my own without ads, I would. In fact, I did as long as I could.

I really do not want this site to ever be a subscription only place and these banners hopefully will give me an opportunity to keep this site open to everyone.
By the way, none of the topic boards have the banner. (Like this page you reading)
Also, none of your photos will ever be presented with a banner on top. It's mainly on the portal type pages and it should not affect your experience here. It will just take some getting used to.
Please try to understand my position, and work with me on this transition.
All the best,
Fred


Doesn't bother me at all Fred, good job with the site.

Oct 23, 2008 at 07:21 PM
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I noticed when they appeared, but not since. Do what you have to do to keep this site up.

Oct 24, 2008 at 08:17 PM
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Fred,

Thanks for all you done for us and the rest of the photographer community around the globe. I have no issues with the ads at all. To me, your web site and content + b/s hooked me from day one.

I would be glad to donate some funds to help you maintain and manage this web site. I'm sure that your loyal FMers don't mind helping out too. You been helping us out for a long time now so I don't see why we all can't chip in and help.

Everyone, how about help and support Fred with $5, $10, etc? It's like bring home lunch one day of the week! I'm sure all of us got a lot out of this web site and we all did saved a lot on buying gears here.

So I challenge all of you to stand up and vote to support Fred.




Oct 25, 2008 at 09:30 AM

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