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p.41 #1 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

I do not want a built-in grip. I have small hands and the lighter weight is a big benefit. The built in memory is an interesting thought though. I'd like to see that with the option of removable memory. However, I'm not sure that's a great idea. Like all hardware, it's a question of when it will fail - not if. I can only imagine how expensive it would be to repair/replace internal memory...

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Sep 08, 2008 at 01:17 AM

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p.41 #2 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Yes.. when I mention internal memory, I don't mean that would be exclusive. It would be supplemental to the CF slot. I like the idea of redundant memory in the cases of failed CF cards, etc.

Sep 08, 2008 at 01:19 AM

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p.41 #3 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Justin D wrote:
You know what I'd love to see, but probably won't? 1.6x crop sRaw mode at 8-10 MP with the crop lines marked in the viewfinder. Two cameras in one. Though I guess I could just buy a focus screen with said crop lines and crop myself... Or just frame loose...

Actually, there is no need for a 1.6x mode (or crop lines) unless you want to include the capability to use EF-S lenses.

If you have a 21mp camera...and are "focal length limited" at full frame, you can crop...jpeg or raw...and get the equivalent of an ~8mp 1.6 camera (~40% of FF). This would give you your "2 for 1" relative to a 20D/30D...and almost a 40D, but would be less resolution that you would get with the 50D....but might make one think of cost value of a 1.6 camera for the "reach"...frankly a question I am asking myself.

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Sep 08, 2008 at 01:37 AM

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p.41 #4 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

rather use CF cards myself...a 1 series style grip would be nice..

Sep 08, 2008 at 01:41 AM

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p.41 #5 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

No to both. Don't really see the need of internal memory. Already have my share of CF cards. I like the current 5D with the optional grip. If I am at an event shoot, I put on the grip to ease portrait orientation photos. When I go trekking, grip comes off, L-bracket goes on and I'm all set without the excess bulk or weight the grip would have.

Sep 08, 2008 at 02:02 AM

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p.41 #6 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Actually, there is no need for a 1.6x mode (or crop lines) unless you want to include the capability to use EF-S lenses.
I know. At 21MP it's a 30D and a FF camera in one, and there's not a great deal of point in throwing away the edges of the image except with respect to data throughput. It would be nice to have a guide for this, but it would probably lead you to tend to shoot for 1.6x even when you're not consciously trying to. How do Nikon do their crop factor mode?
The main reason for this desire, by the way, is simply to make single lenses more versatile, basically. So a single 35mm prime can be both a normal and a wide. A 50mm prime can be a normal and a short tele, etc. Mostly, however, I want to use my 24-105mm in crop mode, as I find the vignetting and distortion on FF turns me off using it, despite having a good copy which performed beautifully on my 30D a few years ago.. I understand that DPP will automatically fix these issues nearly perfectly, though, so perhaps I just need to install that.

Sep 08, 2008 at 02:03 AM

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p.41 #7 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Yep. Don't like either. I definitely want a body with the form factor of the 5D... I will not buy a camera with a built in grip, and I doubt Canon will be making one. Also, I have never, ever plugged my camera into a computer, so I'm not interested with on camera memory.

Sep 08, 2008 at 02:07 AM

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p.41 #8 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Nope, don't like either features, being able to take the extra battery grip off for a smaller camera is one of the benefits of the 5d

16gb of memory? nah, built in memory is a bad idea. Flash ram wears out after a certain number of read/write cycles and you would have to send it back to canon to get your memory fixed if you hit that limit or if you just got a bad spot on yours.

Sep 08, 2008 at 02:14 AM

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p.41 #9 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

photoLoKo wrote:
Yes.. when I mention internal memory, I don't mean that would be exclusive. It would be supplemental to the CF slot. I like the idea of redundant memory in the cases of failed CF cards, etc.

Isn't it better to just have a dual card slot? Later cards could take advantage of faster speeds. In addition, you often wouldn't know a card had failed until you tried to get the files off of it, by which time you may have shot much more than 16GB worth of images.

Sep 08, 2008 at 02:25 AM

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p.41 #10 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Did anybody by chance have copies of those 'spy shots' from the womens gymnastics? I'd be interested to have another gander at them.

Sep 08, 2008 at 02:26 AM

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p.41 #11 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Sergio Mottola wrote:
am i the only one who doesnt want anything higher than 16 mp? makes it hard to deal with files from a wedding.

That's what sRAW is for.

Sep 08, 2008 at 02:27 AM

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p.41 #12 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

The size of the viewfinder is clearly reminding the 5d's but the selection knob on the right has disappeared...

Except that the buttons on the left and the hotshoe has also disappeared...meaning that image is nothing more than a sloppy masking job.

Sep 08, 2008 at 02:30 AM

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p.41 #13 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Pixel Perfect wrote:
Given the hysteria around here, just releasing the dam camera would push it ahead of Nikon and send the forum into meltdown.
lol totally agree...its crazy the amount of time and effort some put into talking about a camera that is not even out...I have been just lurking around the gear forums recently and i am so surprised how bad it is here...but who am i to judge

Sep 08, 2008 at 03:06 AM

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p.41 #14 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Ralph Conway wrote:Maybe this is the cause why Canon still does not have a 20+ camera?

I hate to nit pick, but I believe the 1Ds Mark III is 20mp+. 21.1mp in fact...

Sep 08, 2008 at 03:46 AM

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p.41 #15 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Internal memory, not for me! That means hooking up the camera to down load, don't think so!

Sep 08, 2008 at 03:51 AM

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p.41 #16 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

photoLoKo wrote:
(1) Built-in memory (16GB or more)
(2) Built-in grip

If these two features were offered, along with what people are already speculating about the 5DII, it will be an absolute no-brainer. Something gells me we won't see either of these two features. Is anybody else interested in seeing these?

No, could care less about either of those features.

Sep 08, 2008 at 03:56 AM

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p.41 #17 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

photoLoKo wrote:
(1) Built-in memory (16GB or more)
(2) Built-in grip

If these two features were offered, along with what people are already speculating about the 5DII, it will be an absolute no-brainer. Something gells me we won't see either of these two features. Is anybody else interested in seeing these?

They already did the built-in grip. It's called a 1DsMk3.

Sep 08, 2008 at 04:05 AM

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p.41 #18 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

I don't care for both as well. I like the idea of being able to either get a faster firing power with the grip for fast action shots or get a lighter and less bulky body for travel, like jcolwell and jvarszegi mentioned previously.

Sep 08, 2008 at 04:06 AM

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p.41 #19 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

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Did anybody by chance have copies of those 'spy shots' from the womens gymnastics? I'd be interested to have another gander at them.

This image is copyrighted by the owner

Sep 08, 2008 at 04:14 AM

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p.41 #20 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

'spy shots' from the womens gymnastics?

Aw, man, I thought they were gonna' be locker room shots.

What a let-down!

Sep 08, 2008 at 04:26 AM

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p.41 #21 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

one of the nice things about the 5d is it doesnt have a built in grip! you can go for a small size factor but take all the quality with you!

internal memory! NO THANK YOU. Its much faster to read a card in a card reader than to dump it out. Besides I would rather they pour money into sensor technology than onboard storage.

To each there own however, because I really really want to see High-Def 1080P video in he next generation of canon Slr's and that right there is enough to start a holler on this thread

Sep 08, 2008 at 04:34 AM

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p.41 #22 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Two features: price and price ... would be nice: large 100% viewfinder, perfect ISO3200 IQ.

Please no built in-grip. With 16GB memory cards cheap, built-in memory isn't much of a feature. I'd be happy with a 50D body + 20MP sensor at the right price. If they could move the AF to the next level, that would be nice.

Edited on Sep 08, 2008 at 04:56 AM

Sep 08, 2008 at 04:53 AM

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p.41 #23 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Ralph Conway wrote:
Kagetsu wrote:
For those who didn't read into it... Sony have stated effectively they're the only ones who will use the 24mp sensor (exlusively for the Alpha). Add to that, the sensor is a 12bit DAC sensor, and with Sony's comparitively poor ISO performance (relative to the current market) this won't be a the one that all pro's go out and buy... Personally I don't see it as a big threat.

Maybe this is the cause why Canon still does not have a 20+ camera?

Hmmm... I could have sworn that Canon was the company that released the 1Ds Mark III...

Sep 08, 2008 at 04:56 AM

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p.41 #24 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Marcus Watts wrote:
thw2 wrote:
dcmiller wrote:
I think a "50D 5DII" will be well recieved. But the days of Canon being universally better than Nikon on the higher end are over. There's nothing shocking about this change. The previous situation was unusual.

Agreed. From a features point of view, Canon is seriously lagging. They can't even get some of their basics right, e.g. autofocus accuracy. If they do nothing to reverse the situation, many folks will have lost confidence in them. Then again, the same thing happened to Nikon 8 years ago... until the D3/D300/D700 were released.

The autofocus problem is not something you can pick as a consistent problem with Canon.

Most of their cameras are fantastic and it was Autofocus superiority that won them such a huge segment of Nikons market in the first place.

i guess although if you saw how hideously my 40D did today in bright sun/heat/humidty... literally only 1 in 30 when using the TC with the 300 2.8 were even half-way reasonably focused! terrible! someone on DPR said they jsut heard that some of the 40Ds might have shipped with a bad board that delivers too low of a voltage to the AF sensor, perhaps that is what has been plaguing mine and what explains why some say its great and others dog the ai servo....

Sep 08, 2008 at 05:06 AM

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p.41 #25 · Canon 5DII rumors thread

Pixel Perfect wrote:
Given the hysteria around here, just releasing the dam camera would push it ahead of Nikon and send the forum into meltdown.

Funny....but true I think

OP, internal memory and a grip?.....How about exceptional AF, high ISO and metering?

Edited on Sep 08, 2008 at 05:23 AM

Sep 08, 2008 at 05:22 AM


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