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I thought I would be upgrading from my 40D to a 5DII, but the advent of 50D makes me wonder which upgrade to choose, assuming that 5DII gets introduced at Photokina. 50D has "consumer" features that 5DII probably won't have, and would let me keep my lens lineup intact, whereas with 5DII, I would have to give up my EF-S 10-22 and resiez my mix of L and non-L lenses.
Still, 50D is a successor to 40D, not a direct competitor to D300. With a recommended retail price of $1399, it is significantly cheaper than D300, and probably will do battle with the left-over D80, D200, forthcoming D90 if and when Nikon introduce it, Sony Alpha700, Pentax K20D. And, assuming that the IQ is as Canon says it is (and I have no worries, Canon has always delivered on the IQ), it seems to me that 50D looks good indeed.

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:11 AM

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p.2 #2 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

Am I missing something...what is the crop factor on this camera? 1.6?

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:15 AM

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p.2 #3 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

yes, 1.6x.. this is the "new" 40d, NOT the 5dII**

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:16 AM

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felipedana wrote:
yes, 1.6x.. this is the "new" 40d, NOT the 5dII**

OK! Well, like I said...I don't normally follow these cameras, but this looks very nice at $1,400.

Edited on Aug 26, 2008 at 05:18 AM

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:18 AM

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p.2 #5 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

Cool, got to get my order in!

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:19 AM

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p.2 #6 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

Wow, an impressive upgrade that in many ways blurs the line between the pro-sumer and pro body line-ups, all at the (once upon a time) price of a 10D

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:22 AM

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p.2 #7 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

I'm glad I waited on not upgrading my 30D to a 40D.

I'll be getting one once they have been vetted by the community.

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:24 AM

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p.2 #8 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

Yup, Canon finally started to think like Nikon does, the pro-sumer bodies are not that much different than the the pro bodies. I am convinced now that the 7D (to be announced at Photokina) will be competing directly with the 1Ds MkIII. Better sell the MkIII now

before the announcement

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Edited by AGeoJO on Aug 25, 2008 at 09:31 PM GMT

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Aug 26, 2008 at 05:30 AM

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p.2 #9 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

forgive me, im a lil buzzed.. but when i first saw this posted in #photography on efnet irc i thought the it was the new 5D.

But related...

This makes me feel more willing to wait for the new 5D instead of switching to d700 or d3

besides af...
i mean at least they have more pixels on the freakin lcd!! like gawd

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:31 AM

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p.2 #10 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

I'm so bitter :/ no 5d MKII

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:33 AM

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p.2 #11 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

5d replacement will come at photokina, patience

I'm guessing the 5D is going to be more of the same. If you're expecting a massive new feature set to compete with Nikon, prepare to be disappointed. They are upgrading things where it counts, final image quality. Big upgrades in megapixels, noise levels and capabilitys, and improved LCD. For me these are also the things I am looking for now. I don't want 50 new ways my camera can annoy me or break.

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:37 AM

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p.2 #12 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

well was going to FF but now not so sure...50d looks great if its like 10-40d I am sure it will be a winner...
gotta love 15 mp
HD display
HDMI out more useful than the blue button
and its a CANON

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:38 AM

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p.2 #13 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

digitalbug30d wrote:
well was going to FF but now not so sure...

what made you change your mind? more megapixels of 50d?

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:47 AM

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p.2 #14 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

Apart from the extra 5MP and Hi Res LCD, HDMI, UDMA, AF in Liveview, ...
what have the Romans ever done for us anyway.

Well it's a nice upgrade, but I can't see how people are saying it's a huge upgrade. Huge would have been a brand new AF system, wireless flash and real weather sealing on top of what was announced, which would have meant it matched the D300 for specs.

I'd say 60D will be the camera that gets Canon to D300, but by then D400 will probably raise the bar again.

Nice camera still and I've calculated compared to my 1D II and 5D it's like a 1.72x TC for birders. 15.1MP in a 1.62x crop means a lot of reach. A 500 f/4 + 1.4x TC and 50D would be enough for most situations. Even a crop to 50% pixels leaves almost the same as a 20D/30D would give uncropped.

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:54 AM

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p.2 #15 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

voka_gsw wrote:
digitalbug30d wrote:
well was going to FF but now not so sure...

what made you change your mind? more megapixels of 50d?

yeah,plus live view with a HD display which is an honest upgrade,so is the 15mp,digic4 sorry 5d users then there will always be xxD haters no matter how good it may be...

Edited by digitalbug30d on Aug 25, 2008 at 09:57 PM GMT

Edited by digitalbug30d on Aug 25, 2008 at 09:59 PM GMT

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Aug 26, 2008 at 05:56 AM

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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Apart from the extra 5MP and Hi Res LCD, HDMI, UDMA, AF in Liveview, ...
what have the Romans ever done for us anyway.

Well it's a nice upgrade, but I can't see how people are saying it's a huge upgrade. Huge would have been a brand new AF system, wireless flash and real weather sealing on top of what was announced, which would have meant it matched the D300 for specs.

I'd say 60D will be the camera that gets Canon to D300, but by then D400 will probably raise the bar again.

Nice camera still and I've calculated compared to my 1D II and 5D it's like a 1.72x TC for birders. 15.1MP in a 1.62x crop means a lot of reach. A 500 f/4 + 1.4x TC and 50D would be enough for most situations. Even a crop to 50% pixels leaves almost the same as a 20D/30D would give uncropped.

Are you such a curmudgeon in real life or is this a anti-Canon internet thing.

Edited on Aug 26, 2008 at 05:58 AM

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:57 AM

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Pixel Perfect wrote:
Nice camera still and I've calculated compared to my 1D II and 5D it's like a 1.72x TC for birders. 15.1MP in a 1.62x crop means a lot of reach. A 500 f/4 + 1.4x TC and 50D would be enough for most situations. Even a crop to 50% pixels leaves almost the same as a 20D/30D would give uncropped.

Yea but does the 500 have the resolution to handle it? Haven't tried the 500 yet but with my 600 + 1.4x TC, the Rebel XSi pretty much outresolves the lens. I'm not convinced that the 500 + 1.4x TC on a 50D would actually provide any significant benefit. I guess someone will try it and let us know.

Aug 26, 2008 at 05:59 AM

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AGeoJO wrote:
Yup, Canon finally started to think like Nikon does, the pro-sumer bodies are not that much different than the the pro bodies. I am convinced now that the 7D (to be announced at Photokina) will be competing directly with the 1Ds MkIII. Better sell the MkIII now

before the announcement

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:02 AM

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p.2 #19 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

and I dont think 1.6 crop is as bad as FF peeps want to portray it as...obviously Canon still thinks so to..there is room for all

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:02 AM

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p.2 #20 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

Huh, apparently you can change the amount of noise reduction now too (Standard/Weak/Strong/None). Interesting...

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:02 AM

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p.2 #21 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

Don't forget the 920,000 pixel LCD, this is one of the big things people are missing IMO. Thank you Canon, this is a knock-out camera. This is not the same as the 20D->30D upgrade, this is a pretty substantial upgrade (sensor, LCD, ISO range).

From the sample pics on Flikr, if they are real, Nikon just got ousted with the high ISO quality. That ISO16000 looks cleaner than ISO400 on most canon bodies.

Edited by sboerup on Aug 25, 2008 at 11:11 PM GMT

Edited on Aug 26, 2008 at 06:11 AM

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:05 AM

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p.2 #22 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

stanj wrote:
AGeoJO wrote:
Yup, Canon finally started to think like Nikon does, the pro-sumer bodies are not that much different than the the pro bodies. I am convinced now that the 7D (to be announced at Photokina) will be competing directly with the 1Ds MkIII. Better sell the MkIII now

before the announcement

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Not unless the 5D2 (or whatever) has the same AF as my 1Ds3. Maybe I am alone in that thinking, but we are getting cameras that can shoot in increasingly darker situations, without improving the AF to match it. When I strap a 1.2 or 1.4 lens on my 40D it doesn't focus nearly as well as my 1Ds3, and I doubt the 50D (and by extension 5D2) would be any better.

have to agree..wish they would improve AF,it was a joy to use that 16-35 on my eos3 last weekend big viewfinder AF lightning fast compared to the 30d..until I could afford a 1 series
the 50d looks inviting

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:06 AM

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p.2 #23 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

And two sizes of sRAW (in effect sRAW and mRAW).

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:06 AM

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p.2 #24 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

kenshin wrote:
Huh, apparently you can change the amount of noise reduction now too (Standard/Weak/Strong/None). Interesting...

I'd be curious to see/know if those settings do anything to RAW files or if they are JPG only. Most likely JPG only.

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:07 AM

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p.2 #25 · Official: Canon EOS 50D

No mention of weather sealed in spec info.

Aug 26, 2008 at 06:10 AM


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