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p.1 #1 · Sigma sucks

Hello all,
Had the change to try a Canon 24-105L instead of my own Sigma 28-70/2.8 EX.
According to several reviews and tests the Sigma should be not less sharp then the Canon. Because i didnot find the Sigma very good, it was send back to Sigma and they say it was calibrated again, so it must be good.

http://picasaweb.google.com/goldvertigo/PhotoS/photo#5236901491227848482
Here u see a picture of a car near the store with both lenses...

(If the canon was a 24-105/2.8 IS, i bought it immediately!!!)

Q: are the so many 'bad copys' of Sigma lenses or is it me having bad luck again?

ps. its a 100% crop

Edited by goldvertigo on Aug 21, 2008 at 02:12 PM GMT

Edited on Aug 21, 2008 at 01:12 PM

Aug 21, 2008 at 09:47 AM

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p.1 #2 · Sigma sucks

btw. left is the Sigma, right the Canon; Sigma @28mm 4.0 Canon@24mm 4.0
standard sharpening...

Aug 21, 2008 at 09:49 AM

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p.1 #3 · Sigma sucks

Your lens appears to be exceptionally bad. I think a lot of people have good experiences with that lens, and it's unusual for it to be so poor (your sample image is really blurry - especially if it's already stopped down too!). There's clearly something wrong. I think you're just unlucky and might have a bad copy. Are you sure it was properly calibrated?

Edited by simon_says on Aug 21, 2008 at 04:57 AM GMT

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Aug 21, 2008 at 09:56 AM

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p.1 #4 · Sigma sucks

Would be nice to know the exif of these pics.. Before commenting them further.

Aug 21, 2008 at 09:56 AM

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p.1 #5 · Sigma sucks

simon_says wrote:
Your lens appears to be exceptionally bad. I think a lot of people have good experiences with that lens, and it's unusual for it to be so poor (your sample image is really blurry - especially if it's already stopped down too!). There's clearly something wrong. I think you're just unlucky and might have a bad copy. Are you sure it was properly calibrated?

Edited by simon_says on Aug 21, 2008 at 04:57 AM GMT

+1

I have the 24-70 f/2,8 EX DG and performs pretty good ...

... actually I have the Canon 24-70 f/2,8 L too and I did a comparison between them, and I can tell you that the Sigma for the price performs very well.(only in the 24-28 mm range open diaphragm (f/2,8 mainly -f/4) the Canon outperforms the Sigma ... but the Canon costs 3 times more !!

But never such a difference as you have ... it´s blurry

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Aug 21, 2008 at 10:08 AM

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p.1 #6 · Sigma sucks

Bigfoot wasn't any where near the car when you took that was he?

Aug 21, 2008 at 10:26 AM

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p.1 #7 · Sigma sucks

U mean if i used a tripod? shutterspeeds 1/1000... @28 and 24mm..

Aug 21, 2008 at 10:53 AM

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p.1 #8 · Sigma sucks

bigfoot will make any image blurry, tripod or not.....Unless he's frozen.

Aug 21, 2008 at 11:08 AM

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p.1 #9 · Sigma sucks

Mighty Broad statement maybe just YOURS sucks. I know people with that lens and it is stellar.

Aug 21, 2008 at 12:43 PM

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p.1 #10 · Sigma sucks

u can try ur luck with tamron 28-75, i heard its pretty sharp, or if u have spare money then just straight go to 24-70L

Aug 21, 2008 at 12:48 PM

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p.1 #11 · Sigma sucks

sivrajbm wrote:
Mighty Broad statement maybe just YOURS sucks. I know people with that lens and it is stellar.

Well, replying with statements of "I know someone who does/has something" is just as absurd.

My experiences with Sigma and Tamron...they do suck. Buy Canon.

Aug 21, 2008 at 12:50 PM

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p.1 #12 · Sigma sucks

dcains wrote:

You're an idiot for posting such a thread.

Come on man...let's not get personal and agree to disagree without name calling.

Aug 21, 2008 at 01:07 PM

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p.1 #13 · Sigma sucks

I'm sure there are bad copies out there, but my Sigma (17-70) was a great lens...

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Aug 21, 2008 at 02:03 PM

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p.1 #14 · Sigma sucks

By any chance you have eliminated the user error for both photos?

Aug 21, 2008 at 02:56 PM

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Aug 21, 2008 at 02:56 PM

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p.1 #16 · Sigma sucks

Just bad luck i would say. I have owned three of their lenses and no issues so far with the two i still have (have the 30 f/1.4 and 150-500 OS, gave a friend my 55-200 as I upgraded to the 2.8 IS 70-200). If the dealer is local just go back and exchange the lens for another one, if the dealer is any good that shouldn't be an issue.

Aug 21, 2008 at 03:02 PM

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p.1 #17 · Sigma sucks

I have the Sigma 24-70 and find it to be an outstanding lens: I don't have any complaints about focus or image quality. Me thinks you have a bad lens (or maybe you're just a bad picture taker?), either way: Sigma does not "suck"!!!

I chose the Sigma 28-70 instead of the 24-70 because the 28 should be better...
Good for you that your copy is perfect. I hate it that you cant rely on what you buy!
Ok, for what i read Canon sucks too!!!! also way tooo many bad copy's.
but the 24-105 i tested outside the store is no comparision to the Sigma i own

Edited on Aug 21, 2008 at 03:09 PM

Aug 21, 2008 at 03:07 PM

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p.1 #18 · Sigma sucks

If the picture is great----give credit to the photographer.

If the picture is bad---blame the equipment. (at least I alays do

Aug 21, 2008 at 03:14 PM

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p.1 #19 · Sigma sucks

No doubt you can get bad copies of any make of lens. I wonder if the issue is the optics or the focusing. AF could be off, even if it has been "recalibrated". See if you can do better with MF.

I have the following Sigma lenses (besides some Canons) 12-24, 15 (fisheye), 70-200, 100-300, 80-400. The 70-200 occasionally locks up my cameras, and will be going for service soon. The 80-400 has non-HSM AF which is rather slow. Other than that these are all very good lenses, especially for the price.

Aug 21, 2008 at 04:34 PM

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p.1 #20 · Sigma sucks

Wow, a lot of hostility here.

Fine, maybe saying Sigma sucks is going beyond the issue at hand, but his lens is clearly having problems and he's frustrated. So what? Opinions are formed by subjective experience, and his is clearly telling him that Sigma sucks...

Anyhow, my personal experience says Sigma has some great lenses, but their quality control is definitely not the best. I am sure plenty of people have not experienced QC problems, but I certainly have, and reading this forums will find many others that have as well.

To the OP, that lens has a good reputation, and I would definitely say you have a bad copy there no matter what they are saying. That side by side is a pretty basic test in a well lit situation, so there is no real reason for the Sigma shot to be that far off.

Aug 21, 2008 at 04:42 PM

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p.1 #21 · Sigma sucks

everyone know there are bad copies of all lenses. usually canon lenses are better than sigma lenses but that is the price you pay. now for your case, no lens should look that bad brand new after being calibrated. so in general sigma does not suck it is more of the "B" squad in the lineup.

Aug 21, 2008 at 05:02 PM

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p.1 #22 · Sigma sucks

My old, beat up sigma fisheye:

This image is copyrighted by the owner

Aug 21, 2008 at 05:36 PM

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p.1 #23 · Sigma sucks

THX for all your anwsers.
Its not my intention to provoke Sigma owners, which has good copies.
Only is it hard to accept that i was put off that the lens is good after it was send back to Sigma. So i 'lost' my money.
What i am trying to say is that when you are at the store buying a good lens (you think) its not a casino like you put your money on that lens and lost!!!
unacceptable!

Aug 21, 2008 at 05:40 PM

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p.1 #24 · Sigma sucks

stiksandstones wrote:
My old, beat up sigma fisheye:

This image is copyrighted by the owner

Man I have seen this one a few times and it always makes me feel sick due to the moving background lol!

One of the images that makes me want a fish haha.

Aug 21, 2008 at 06:20 PM

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p.1 #25 · Sigma sucks

goldvertigo wrote:
THX for all your anwsers.
Its not my intention to provoke Sigma owners, which has good copies.
Only is it hard to accept that i was put off that the lens is good after it was send back to Sigma. So i 'lost' my money.
What i am trying to say is that when you are at the store buying a good lens (you think) its not a casino like you put your money on that lens and lost!!!
unacceptable!

Bad copies always makes people cry, but in the end all you can do is suck it up go back to the merchant and ask for another lens in exchange. If they question have some samples on a flash drive and show them, or just have your body along with you and mount the lens and take some photos.

I am lucky as I live right close to one of the big camera stores here in Alberta and they allow exchanges within the first 14 days if there is an issue with the lens. They are usually nice enough to extend this for me as i can be away working for 21+ days before getting a good outing with a lens.

Aug 21, 2008 at 06:23 PM


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