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p.1 #1 · Paul Buff Einstein

After having read some rumblings going on about the new Paul Buff monolight system on other forums, I'm noticing that it's being a little overshadowed with discussion by the new CyberSync (which is partly to do with the two new products being placed on the same press report). I'd really like to hear a bit more from Paul about what these lights will entail. Here's what we have so far from the Buff forums:

"Finally, The Einstein. It’s premature for me to tell you much about this other than Einstein is a totally new product line – 500WS and 1000WS monolights that are completely digital and which have features, ranges and accuracies not seen in any other lighting system at any price. And, yes, Einstein will be priced in the PCB tradition, not according to what the market will bear."

Also:

"Einstein uses IGBT devices to shut off the flash current - similar to a TTL speedlight. But the power is much higher. Until recently there weren't cost effective devices that could do this."

I know it's been designed and is a done deal, and I'm sure this is a nicely refined unit that Paul will be bringing us. But here's what I'm hoping for in terms of additions to the already great WL X series:

Audible recycle beep.
New, heavy duty modifier attachment design that's more set-worthy.
Built-in, detachable glass cover protector for the strobe/model light.
More accuracy with the magenta/green hughes of white balance.
Professional looking design (all black is fine by me).
Quick recycle time of under 2 seconds for the 1000 w/s unit.
Simple on-off of modeling light. Even 250 watts isn't enough power to utilize a dimmer. Put that money to use elsewhere.

All in all, I'm really looking forward to these new lights. My above speculations are just that, but I would like to know if any of these additions will be implemented into the design of the Einstein, or if we can get a bit more details of the Einstein design.

Aug 19, 2008 at 06:48 PM

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p.1 #2 · Paul Buff Einstein

There is a post on his forum that lists everything he has said about the einsteins thus far. One new thing that popped up is that the 500ws are being designed to be able to run off C batteries but that part is still in testing, would be cool though.

Aug 19, 2008 at 06:58 PM

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p.1 #3 · Paul Buff Einstein

I think I just found that thread. I'm just not a member of that forum, and keep my discussions on FM.

Aug 19, 2008 at 07:13 PM

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p.1 #4 · Paul Buff Einstein

Well, I found it'll be having the frosted protector dome over the strobe. Some great info in that thread. Not all questions answered, though ;-)

Aug 19, 2008 at 08:11 PM

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p.1 #5 · Paul Buff Einstein

It has everything Cineski asks for and a whole lot more he hasn't requested or imagined.

CyberSync, Cyber Commander and Einstein are all components of an integrated design.

Aug 19, 2008 at 08:44 PM

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p.1 #6 · Paul Buff Einstein

Paul Buff wrote:
It has everything Cineski asks for and a whole lot more he hasn't requested or imagined.

CyberSync, Cyber Commander and Einstein are all components of an integrated design.

You sound like a Ron Popeil infomercial.. And let me tell you, I LOVE me some Ron Popeil!

I, much like other people, can't wait for this revolutionizing of the way we shoot with studio lighting. Bring it on!

Aug 19, 2008 at 09:34 PM

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p.1 #7 · Paul Buff Einstein

I just am wanting some heavier duty softbox connectors, I have the Huge softbox and it feels a little flimsy on the WL "ring".

Now paul if you could make a speed ring that would fit my Profoto softboxes that would rock. I like your softboxes because of the way they are "foldable" but I cant use them on my profoto packs and heads.

Any chance of getting the W/S higher? I have the WL1600's and well when i shoot large teams I am lacking power (which is why i went to pack and heads).

I know I am asking for alot

Ryan

Aug 19, 2008 at 09:49 PM

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p.1 #8 · Paul Buff Einstein

Why would AB make speedrings for other manufacturers' heads? That's not really their territory.

And 1000W/S is all you really want in a monoblock. Any more and it's way too large and heavy. If the weight is kept down, that could make a great one-head portable setup with a 8-10aH VBII kit.

Aug 19, 2008 at 10:44 PM

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p.1 #9 · Paul Buff Einstein

Sound like they will be good competition to the Elinchrom Style RX heads, cool cool.

Aug 19, 2008 at 11:24 PM

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p.1 #10 · Paul Buff Einstein

vidoprof wrote:
I just am wanting some heavier duty softbox connectors, I have the Huge softbox and it feels a little flimsy on the WL "ring".

Now paul if you could make a speed ring that would fit my Profoto softboxes that would rock. I like your softboxes because of the way they are "foldable" but I cant use them on my profoto packs and heads.

Any chance of getting the W/S higher? I have the WL1600's and well when i shoot large teams I am lacking power (which is why i went to pack and heads).

I know I am asking for alot

Ryan

Paul C Buff makes the Zeus pack system. I just bought one. 2500 ws pack with 2500 ws standard head, 2500 ws ringlight (power is 1250 ws each when used on the same pack). He also makes a bi-tube head that can output 5000 ws.

Edited on Aug 20, 2008 at 02:51 AM

Aug 20, 2008 at 02:50 AM

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p.1 #11 · Paul Buff Einstein

It looks like the adaptor ring part of this would fit into the speedring on the foldable softbox that PCB sells.
I have two of the big boxes and two of the strip boxes and love them. They are so much easier than the SBs that require assembly.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/214761-REG/Photoflex_SC_B9102PF_Speed_Ring_Octo_Connector.html

Aug 20, 2008 at 04:16 AM

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p.1 #12 · Paul Buff Einstein

Hey Paul, thanks for confirming Cineski's wish list. Here are my questions:

1) Recycle time to full for the 1000ws unit
2) flash duration (t.5 and t.1 please!)

For reference, the Elinchrom 600RX units are 1.3 sec full recycle and a t.5 of 1/2050th
The old 1000R units were badass, I don't remember recycle, but t.5 of 1/4000th. I'm pretty sure they had to use some sorta radioactive element or something to make that even feasible.

Max

Aug 20, 2008 at 02:39 PM

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p.1 #13 · Paul Buff Einstein

We don't have final data quite yet. !000WS design criteria are 2 seconds cycle to 1024WS and t.5 in the 1/2000 range. Recycle for the 512WS version should be 1 second with a faster t.5.

The standard 3:1 t.5 vs t.1 comparison applies only at Full Power. As you reduce power the t.1 quickly falls and the relationship changes. So we will rate and display t.1 times, which can be as fast as 1/10,000 second at lower power settings. I will publish a paper of time VS power as soon as we have this data.

BTW, Zeus 1250WS recycles in one second and achieves 1/3000 t.5 at 1250WS with bi tube head.

Aug 20, 2008 at 03:28 PM

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p.1 #14 · Paul Buff Einstein

yes, but 1/2000th with the 2500WS pack and Bi-tube would work better for me

thanks for the answers Paul.

Max

Edited on Aug 21, 2008 at 01:38 AM

Aug 21, 2008 at 01:38 AM

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p.1 #15 · Paul Buff Einstein

PShizzy wrote:
yes, but 1/2000th with the 2500WS pack and Bi-tube would work better for me

thanks for the answers Paul.

Max

This is close to what you get with 2500WS and bi tube (t.5). But it make a heck of a noise - I mean like a rifle shot. With 5000WS bi tube it's still faster than 1/1000 t.5 and downright scary when it fires.

Aug 21, 2008 at 07:11 AM

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p.1 #16 · Paul Buff Einstein

Oh I know. I got the info from your specs page. The sound won't bother me, I'm from NY. Gunfire's like a lullaby to me. Plus I used to own some old Norman packs. I'm pretty sure every time I fired I was taking in some gamma rays or something cause even when I closed my eyes, I could see through my eyelids. But it pumped out 2000ws.

5000ws huh. That would be fun to try out. Might have to tell the hs teams to start wearing shades during the game.

Max

Aug 21, 2008 at 10:43 AM

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p.1 #17 · Paul Buff Einstein

This just gave me a wonderful idea... the new lights should have modifier mounts that are compatible with profoto... It would absolutely kill the "profoto snobs" by allowing the inexpensive new AB modifiers to fit on their beloved lights, and kill the argument that the einsteins dont have enough of a modifier line. You'll just have to pay more than the cost of the whole einstein for a simple reflector. =o)

Aug 25, 2008 at 01:15 AM

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p.1 #18 · Paul Buff Einstein

rfffffff,
Have you used profoto? I honestly don't see the need for the "profoto snob" attempt at humor. Without going into details here, I can assure you that Profoto tools are simply in another league. Ofcourse AB/WL is great gear without any doubt. I have used it with great results, but now shoot profoto, and it's not because I like spending loads of cash or prefer are certain label on my packs. They could say Fisher Price for all I care, if they do the trick. And for my work, nothing offers what Profoto does. Just something to think about.

Cheers

Aug 25, 2008 at 02:17 AM

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p.1 #19 · Paul Buff Einstein

316shooter wrote:
rfffffff,
Have you used profoto? I honestly don't see the need for the "profoto snob" attempt at humor. Without going into details here, I can assure you that Profoto tools are simply in another league. Ofcourse AB/WL is great gear without any doubt. I have used it with great results, but now shoot profoto, and it's not because I like spending loads of cash or prefer are certain label on my packs. They could say Fisher Price for all I care, if they do the trick. And for my work, nothing offers what Profoto does. Just something to think about.

Cheers

can you link us to some of your work?

Aug 25, 2008 at 03:39 AM

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Aug 25, 2008 at 06:36 AM

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p.1 #21 · Paul Buff Einstein

jprezant wrote:
316shooter wrote:
rfffffff,
Have you used profoto? I honestly don't see the need for the "profoto snob" attempt at humor. Without going into details here, I can assure you that Profoto tools are simply in another league. Ofcourse AB/WL is great gear without any doubt. I have used it with great results, but now shoot profoto, and it's not because I like spending loads of cash or prefer are certain label on my packs. They could say Fisher Price for all I care, if they do the trick. And for my work, nothing offers what Profoto does. Just something to think about.

Cheers

can you link us to some of your work?

Could you link something other than ads?

Aug 25, 2008 at 06:37 AM

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Aug 25, 2008 at 05:10 PM

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p.1 #23 · Paul Buff Einstein

Brent Ward wrote:
Could you link something other than ads?

Lol...I think the pot is calling the kettle a GoDaddy landing page.

I really don't understand the antagonism - it's AB-snobbery, not Profoto-snobbery...AB-users bashing anyone who feels ABs don't fit their needs. No matter how many times I recommend people buy ABs I still catch crap for choosing to shoot Profoto myself. And I would trade up for Brent's Brons if I could afford it. Hell, I'd trade up for nicer Profotos and Plume softboxes if I could afford it. There's nothing wrong with using what makes sense for you, logistically and economically...but that also doesn't mean there isn't something better out there that just doesn't make as much sense for you.

Aug 25, 2008 at 05:51 PM

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p.1 #24 · Paul Buff Einstein

Shatterkiss, I see you notice it too.

Edited on Aug 25, 2008 at 06:37 PM

Aug 25, 2008 at 06:37 PM

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p.1 #25 · Paul Buff Einstein

I really didn't mean to upset anyone at all... the "profoto snobs" was in quotes really because I thought it was funny part of a funnier post... and actually I still do. there wasnt any antagonism intended... I am sure profoto, which for the record I havent used, makes incredible products that are really superior to alien bees in many ways. I can't afford them. I am a "snob" if different ways...

but back to my original pointless point: Wouldn't it be funny if Paul did that? Look at this post... imagine the internet chatter if the new lights really were profoto compatible... =o)

Aug 25, 2008 at 08:05 PM


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