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surf monkey Offline Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? Lions at the San Diego Wild Animal Park. Morning, backlit. I don't really think that these animals are wild or natural, but I wouldn't want to be inside with them. Comments & critiques welcome. I think that #1 may have been overprocessed. This was inspired by Steven Rood's animal portraits. #1 taken with a Canon 20D and Canon 300f4is, no filter, 1/1,000 sec, f4 #2 taken with a Canon 40D and Canon 300f4is, no filter, 1/500 sec, f4 #3 taken with a Canon 40D and Canon 300f4is, no filter, 1/400 sec, f4 Exif information Model Canon EOS 20D Date 2008:08:05 22:53:21 Original date 2006:10:31 15:32:11 Exposure time 1/1000 sec Focal length 300mm Focal number f/4.0 ISO speed 200 ISO Exposure compensation -0.3 Exif information Model Canon EOS 40D Date 2008:08:05 22:53:32 Original date 2008:01:26 09:31:28 Exposure time 1/500 sec Focal length 300mm Focal number f/4.0 ISO speed 200 ISO Exposure compensation +0.3 Exif information Model Canon EOS 40D Date 2008:08:05 22:50:17 Original date 2008:01:26 09:42:00 Exposure time 1/400 sec Focal length 300mm Focal number f/4.0 ISO speed 200 ISO Exposure compensation +0.3 Aug 06, 2008 at 05:55 AM

Lil Judd Offline Image Upload: Off Wild or Domestic? I love # 2 & 3, but something feel "off" with # 1 - - something about the mane, his face is stunning, but - - I don't know how to put it. Something just feels "off" But you caught some beautiful moments. Lil Aug 06, 2008 at 05:58 AM

surf monkey Offline Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? Lil Judd, I know what you mean. I think it's the high contrast of the light hairs of the mane right of the face. That's just the way the contrast came out after converting to b&w in Photoshop. I think I'll try to reduce the contrast on the light parts. The overall feel needs to be softened a bit. Thanks for the input. Aug 06, 2008 at 06:08 AM

Lil Judd Offline Image Upload: Off Wild or Domestic? I have any idea for you. I love the face, it's the mane that just came out - - - "off".... Maybe some selective blur of the mane would help - - worth trying.... # 2 is just wonderful - - no one would know that's a "zoo" setting... Lil Aug 06, 2008 at 06:20 AM

mabidally Offline Image Upload: Off Wild or Domestic? No1 is a beautiful conversion, perhaps pixellating a bit. Aug 06, 2008 at 08:41 AM

anthony whitmo Online Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? Super job Great images Well done Ant Aug 06, 2008 at 02:32 PM

Brenton Biggs Offline Image Upload: Off Wild or Domestic? These are great! I do too really enjoy the first image Aug 06, 2008 at 02:44 PM

milmoejoe Online Buy and Sell: On Wild or Domestic? #1 is definitely a lifetime keeper shot, congrats! Blow it up on some canvas and enjoy it! Aug 06, 2008 at 02:52 PM

90 5.0 Offline Image Upload: Off Wild or Domestic? I absolutely love #1, If I had taken that it would be blown up and hanging on my wall in the entryway in my house!! Aug 06, 2008 at 02:56 PM

Paul Walden Offline Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? #1 and #2 are tops! Don't have any real issues with the mane - looks a bit lithographic, I think. All lions in 1 and 2 seem to be thoughtful; to me, they have very emotional facial expressions. The big male is clearly letting his mind wander, and get a load of the body language of the female. I think you managed to capture personalities here. Good work! Cheers, Paul Aug 06, 2008 at 03:34 PM

surf monkey Offline Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? Two new versions for #1. Slight blur to the mane. Reduced contrast. I didn't want to do too much. B is slightly darker than C. At this small scale and on my monitor, I'm not sure which one I like more. I guess that I'll have to print it and put it on a wall to really find out. Any votes for your favorite? Thanks, everyone for the input. Aug 06, 2008 at 03:34 PM

Karl Witt Online Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? I'm sticking with #1 and I think it is just grrrrrrrrrreat! I love the mood that it evokes as well as the tonal qualities. If there were just a wee bit more eye contact it would be spectacular. I also like #2 just fine and would love to see #3 the same way. A very nice way of presentation IMO Karl Aug 06, 2008 at 04:26 PM

shelleyc Offline Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? I like each and every one of these ... all of them are just great. I actually love all of these... couldn't pick a favorite. Great job. Aug 06, 2008 at 04:39 PM

Genes Home Offline Image Upload: Off Wild or Domestic? Like the first one..............large and on canvas if you can afford it. one of the best B&W of anything I have seen in a long time. Definately one to be proud of, regardless of where it was taken. REALLY great work. Aug 06, 2008 at 04:49 PM

Tim Kuhn Offline Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? Number 1 is number 1. Very well done. Tim Aug 06, 2008 at 09:41 PM

Alistair Watson Offline Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? I really like # 2 and 3, particularly 3, it makes me smile! # 1 reminds me of that Dragan (sp?) filter look, maybe there is just too much mane! Great portrait though. Aug 06, 2008 at 09:45 PM

RT v Genugten Offline Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? Number 1 is number 1, to say it in Tim's words, But this accounts also for number 2 and number 3! Excellent work! nb, I don't think there is something like a domestic lion, these animals are wild and stay wild, never forget that! (well, my cat might be a domestic lion, come to think of it ) RT. Aug 06, 2008 at 09:54 PM

Raindrop_333 Offline Image Upload: Off Wild or Domestic? All 3 are gorgeous, but I'm really drawn to the first one most So dramatic. Jenna Aug 06, 2008 at 10:28 PM

PaulCal Online Image Upload: Off Wild or Domestic? #2 does it for me. Very nice Did you shoot in B&W or just PS it that way? Paul Aug 06, 2008 at 10:54 PM

surf monkey Offline Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? Paul, Thanks for the nice comments. I shoot everything in RAW with a small JPEG. I use the RAW (color) file for anything I want to adjust. I use the JPEGs mostly for emailing and web. All my post work is done in Photoshop CS3. I've recently changed my b&w conversion process by using the excellent black & white adjustment layer. It's a huge time saver over my older methods. Then I apply the sepia with a hue/saturation adjustment. I'm not a photographer by trade, I'm a graphic designer - so I use the standard design tools. Aug 06, 2008 at 11:32 PM

surf monkey Offline Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? Hey Lil Judd, Do you prefer the original or the new variations of #1? Just wondering since you have the same "issue" with the mane that I do. I think I might have to print it large to see if one is better than the others. Thanks again for the input. Aug 06, 2008 at 11:37 PM

surf monkey Offline Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? Final version. Thanks everyone all the comments and critiques. Aug 08, 2008 at 01:12 AM

Doug Bentlage Offline Image Upload: On Wild or Domestic? Definitely like your final version best, beautiful shot! Large canvas sounds good! Doug Aug 08, 2008 at 01:18 AM

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