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p.11 #1 · Canon Updates

I think Canon will replace the 1D Mk III with the Mk IV. They will immediately rebadge and sell the current 1D as the 5D Mk II. Everyone will immediately praise this "new" 5D's speed and autofocusing accuracy.

Aug 05, 2008 at 07:05 PM

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p.11 #2 · Canon Updates

The 1DMkIII sells for $4,000 USD and for the most part, its AF is fixed, maybe not to the satisfaction of some, but it is still quite good. Canon has 40D and if they sell the 1DMkIII for $3500, then that's all they really need to do for now. Once existing stock of the 5D is gone by Christmas 08, they can introduce a 5D successor come Feb 08.

Aug 05, 2008 at 07:47 PM

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I agree, Nikon's only failing is a lack of f/4 zooms. I think they may surprise us with a 24-120 f/4 VR though sooner rather than later.

This is the sole reason I cannot seriously consider selling off my EF mount glass to switch to a D700. While I do lust for the 14-24mm for landscape purposes, Nikon does not have a walkaround zoom I find anywhere near acceptable. The 24-70 f/2.8, while stellar, is far too heavy and and expensive in addition to lacking stabilization. The 24-120mm, while stabilized, get poor marks for resolution and sharpness, and, most importantly, is not constant maximum aperture.

Canon is going to have to face the fact though that they will have to start putting more features in their entry level FF camera(s) if they are going to compete with Nikon and perhaps even Sony for the prosumer FF segment of the market that Canon has heretofore solely owned with the 5D. Unfortunately that sole ownership has made them complacent and/or arrogant, skimping on the updates to the XXD series and pricing 1-series bodies out of reach. With the D700 and Sony's forth coming FF offering, they can ill afford to skimp any longer.

Aug 05, 2008 at 08:27 PM

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If Canon puts a high res LCD in the 5D replacement, that's going to make the rest of Canon's line-up look positively lame with their low res LCD's. In addition, if Nikon introduces their 20+Mp FF camera at the same time, that will mean Nikon has four top models with high res LCD's to Canon's one. I know many people think "big deal" about a high res LCD, but once you've used one, it's difficult to go back to Canon's mediocre displays.

Also, keep in mind that if the 5D replacement can't compete with the D700 on features and has to trump it with a lower price, Nikon will likely respond with a drop in price of the D700 which could lead to a price war

Aug 05, 2008 at 08:51 PM

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p.11 #5 · Canon Updates

Just clod down!

The new 5D will not much cheaper than D700, it may even more expensive, with less feature and non-accurate focus. As long as people here said I can not change to Nikon as he has some Canon junk ( include overpriced L, Just think how many issue on focus), Cano will not feel hesitate to take your money

Not talking about Nikon staff D3/D700, and new Nikon 24-70 @ $1799, it is much sharper and fast than EF24-70, Canon may come out replacement, but it will be more expensive, just look 200/f2 ( Caon@$6000, Nikon@$4000, does IS cost $2000

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So say goodbuy to Canon, otherwise you will get 40D like 5D2 with weather seal by foam):{

Aug 05, 2008 at 09:27 PM

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p.11 #6 · Canon Updates

Of course they can introduce the high-def VGA screen with the 5D replacement - they have to do it sooner or later and I think they will do it now. When the 5D was released it had a bigger screen than the 1Ds Mk II, and no one complained. People understand that with any new DSLR some brand new features may appear that is not already on any one of their current lineup.

Jay Adeff wrote:
If Canon puts a high res LCD in the 5D replacement, that's going to make the rest of Canon's line-up look positively lame with their low res LCD's. In addition, if Nikon introduces their 20+Mp FF camera at the same time, that will mean Nikon has four top models with high res LCD's to Canon's one. I know many people think "big deal" about a high res LCD, but once you've used one, it's difficult to go back to Canon's mediocre displays.

Also, keep in mind that if the 5D replacement can't compete with the D700 on features and has to trump it with a lower price, Nikon will likely respond with a drop in price of the D700 which could lead to a price war

Aug 05, 2008 at 10:27 PM

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That would make this forum a pet cemetary

correction:
Pet Cemetary II

Aug 05, 2008 at 10:34 PM

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Jay Adeff wrote:
If Canon puts a high res LCD in the 5D replacement, that's going to make the rest of Canon's line-up look positively lame with their low res LCD's. In addition, if Nikon introduces their 20+Mp FF camera at the same time, that will mean Nikon has four top models with high res LCD's to Canon's one. I know many people think "big deal" about a high res LCD, but once you've used one, it's difficult to go back to Canon's mediocre displays.

Also, keep in mind that if the 5D replacement can't compete with the D700 on features and has to trump it with a lower price, Nikon will likely respond with a drop in price of the D700 which could lead to a price war

funny, a year ago, the canon "mediocre" display was the standard....i use both a 1ds3 , a d700 and a leaf back: take a guess at which has the worst rear display: (hint: it ain't the canon!)
more interesting than how many cameras each company has or will have with high resolution screens, is how many current production full frame /fx bodies each company will have by year end.
as for prices, all these cameras are under tremendous pressure competing for consumer dollars.....and don't forget about the retailers who need and want to move inventory off their shelves either.

Aug 05, 2008 at 11:48 PM

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Why does anyone care how many pixels are on the LCD? It shows me the menu choices just fine with no problems reading them and it shows me the histogram too. What else do you need?

Aug 06, 2008 at 12:03 AM

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p.11 #10 · Canon Updates

A polaroid back!

Gary Petersen wrote:
Why does anyone care how many pixels are on the LCD? It shows me the menu choices just fine with no problems reading them and it shows me the histogram too. What else do you need?

Aug 06, 2008 at 12:07 AM

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A polaroid back!

Gary Petersen wrote:
Why does anyone care how many pixels are on the LCD? It shows me the menu choices just fine with no problems reading them and it shows me the histogram too. What else do you need?

My sister is telling me she used to have a 1.3mpx digital that also made little 2x3inch or so polaroid prints at the same time.

Aug 06, 2008 at 12:17 AM

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...And a APS-C sensor in the G10.

That could get my attention.

Aug 06, 2008 at 12:22 AM

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...And a APS-C sensor in the G10.

That could get my attention.

It will come .... hopefully sooner rather than later. Thanks Sigma!

Aug 06, 2008 at 12:29 AM

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bobbytan wrote:
Tom_W wrote:
Stunnaz wrote:
...And a APS-C sensor in the G10.

That could get my attention.

It will come .... hopefully sooner rather than later. Thanks Sigma!

Olympus and Matsushita (Panasonic) are working on new Four Thirds camera and lenses that will be P+S sized cameras with interchangable lenses.

Aug 06, 2008 at 12:59 AM

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p.11 #15 · Canon Updates

Went to the biggest camera store here in Ohio on Friday and was looking around and I was talking to the owner and stated I am still waiting on the new 5d to be announced and laughed and he laughed back and said Aug 25th

Aug 09, 2008 at 05:41 PM

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p.11 #16 · Canon Updates

Actually the original 5D was $3400.00. That is what I paid for mine (worth every penny) I don't expect the new one to be much less than that.

Aug 10, 2008 at 12:23 AM

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Gary Petersen wrote:
Why does anyone care how many pixels are on the LCD? It shows me the menu choices just fine with no problems reading them and it shows me the histogram too. What else do you need?

What you need is not the same as what other people need, if you can realize this, life will be easier

Aug 10, 2008 at 12:59 AM

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ulrikft wrote:
What you need is not the same as what other people need, if you can realize this, life will be easier

I suppose if people want to believe that a better LCD screen is going to help them improve on the quality of their photos, there is nothing that can convince them otherwise.

I won't say it's the LCD per se that makes Canon folks whine so much. Instead, it's the package as a whole: improved high ISO performance, superb AF focusing, AF adjustment function, spot metering tied to non-centered AF point, multiple bracketing shots and flexibility, on-board flash control, working auto ISO functionality (now how hard is it to implement this) etc etc. Of the features listed, the 1st three are the most important ones IMHO.

Edited on Aug 10, 2008 at 02:17 AM

Aug 10, 2008 at 02:16 AM

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A high-definition LCD screen is very important and very desirable. With a lousy low-res screen, you don't really know if you got the shot. Having a big high-def screen is like having a polaroid back like in the old film days. A low res screen is no polaroid back.

thw2 wrote:

I suppose if people want to believe that a better LCD screen is going to help them improve on the quality of their photos, there is nothing that can convince them otherwise.

Edited on Aug 10, 2008 at 03:58 AM

Aug 10, 2008 at 03:56 AM

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bobbytan wrote:
A high-definition LCD screen is very important and very desirable. With a lousy low-res screen, you don't really know if you got the shot. Having a big high-def screen is like having a polaroid back like in the old film days. A low res screen is no polaroid back.

I never look at a photo on the camera's lcd. I remember buying a film camera once that had a little clip affair on the back where you were supposed to put the end flap off the box the film came in. I didn't use it either.

Aug 10, 2008 at 04:05 AM

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