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90 5.0 wrote:


That seems like an odd thing for him to say given his subject matter (e.g., El Cap or Half Dome). You'd have to "step back" several miles and in doing so you would change perspective and introduce a lot more air (e.g., haze, etc) between you and your subject. Are you sure it was A.A. who said that? What could he have meant?




Jul 15, 2008 at 04:41 PM
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p.3 #2 · Nikon -- Enough with bodies --- LENSES


I was gutted when Nikon cancelled their gorgeous 28mm f1.4. Since that time I never looked at the Nikkor lineup with such affection.

Lets hope that now Nikon are serious about FX they will replace the old 28mm with a new improved ultrafast equivalent.

Till then, the Canon 24mm f1.4L is top banana.



Jul 15, 2008 at 04:46 PM
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p.3 #3 · Nikon -- Enough with bodies --- LENSES


David Baldwin wrote:
I was gutted when Nikon cancelled their gorgeous 28mm f1.4.


Was it really gorgeous? From what I've seen, it was pretty soft wide open. And why have fast lenses if not to shoot wide open?

Edited on Jul 15, 2008 at 04:51 PM



Jul 15, 2008 at 04:50 PM
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p.3 #4 · Nikon -- Enough with bodies --- LENSES


Makten wrote:
In my opinion, f/1.2 is overkill for FX since these new cameras do handle high ISO speeds very well and the DOF will still be very short with f/1.4 on 35, 50 and 85 mm.


I think a lot of people are interested in the f/1.2 primes not so much so for their speed but for the dream like look they impart. I'm not partial to Nikon's past f/1.2 50's simply because I find their bokeh ghastly (and I'm all about interesting active bokeh). There's a local gal who does beautiful work with mainly a 50L and you just can't achieve that look any other way, the 50 f/1.4 Nikkors certainly don't have it, the 85mm f/1.4 Nikkor is very close, but too long for a general coverage lens.

Her name's Megan Wynn: http://meganwphotography.wordpress.com/ (I'm not associated with her, I just shot a wedding with her a while back and really enjoy her work)

I do agree screw drive f/1.2 lenses would be fine too, people aren't buying these for their D40's and I don't plan on shooting sports with them.

PS. Welcome to FM



Jul 15, 2008 at 05:00 PM
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p.3 #5 · Nikon -- Enough with bodies --- LENSES


Screw Drive! I think it's fair to say Nikon will never make another screw drive F-mount lens except in some aniversary remake ... and even then I doupt it.


Jul 15, 2008 at 06:02 PM
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Andre Labonte wrote:
Screw Drive! I think it's fair to say Nikon will never make another screw drive F-mount lens except in some aniversary remake ... and even then I doupt it.


The sky could fall we could see an anniversary digital SP too.



Jul 15, 2008 at 06:26 PM
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p.3 #7 · Nikon -- Enough with bodies --- LENSES


Ok how about a re-issuing of lens, say the 28mm F2, 35mm F1.4, 50mm F1.2, 105mm F1.8 all Ais and this is just to start. Zeiss is climbing up in interest on the lens market I think re-establishing these sweet primes will help to keep Zeiss at bay.


Jul 15, 2008 at 07:15 PM
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the 50/1.4 DOF is too high for what i shoot, but at the same time, i need a wider FOV than a 50. also, even with the D3, i find that i need the higher shutter speeds that an f1.2 lens would allow even over an f1.4. i am certain Nikon will never make the lens i need, but i know what i need. i use the AF-D 50/1.4 because that is the next closest i can get my hands on that will do the job.

Herb...

Makten wrote:
In my opinion, f/1.2 is overkill for FX since these new cameras do handle high ISO speeds very well and the DOF will still be very short with f/1.4 on 35, 50 and 85 mm. In fact, a 50/1.4 gives shorter DOF than 80/2.8 on 6x6.




Jul 15, 2008 at 08:29 PM
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p.3 #9 · Nikon -- Enough with bodies --- LENSES


Makten wrote:
But, when people speak and dream of new primes, there always seem to be a demand for AF-S. I don't really understand this. For short to normal lenses, the AF-D would do just fine and be cheaper, smaller and probably more reliable.


When's the last time Nikon made a lens that isnt AFS (not counting tilt shifts) ? Every new lens is gonna be AFS.

Now, where are those damned 28/1.4, 50/1.2, 85/1.2, 135/2, all AFS ?



Jul 15, 2008 at 11:05 PM
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voka_gsw wrote:
When's the last time Nikon made a lens that isnt AFS (not counting tilt shifts) ? Every new lens is gonna be AFS.

Now, where are those damned 28/1.4, 50/1.2, 85/1.2, 135/2, all AFS ?


In all reality, the four lenses you mention along with an updated 200micro would pretty much round out the Nikon lens line-up. Then they could start the updating of lenses like the 80-400VR etc. I hope the primes and the micro happen.

I doubt I will get my 120-300 f/2.8 or my 105-200 micro with 1:1, but I can always hope.



Jul 16, 2008 at 09:11 AM
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I won't be happy until they have a 60MP full frame camera that shoots ISO 250,000 with no noise and a 10-300mm f/1.8 VR AFS lens weighs less than 3lbs.

It must also be a cell phone, pda, and have Photoshop built in.



Jul 16, 2008 at 11:15 AM
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DragonflyDM wrote:
I won't be happy until they have a 60MP full frame camera that shoots ISO 250,000 with no noise and a 10-300mm f/1.8 VR AFS lens weighs less than 3lbs.

It must also be a cell phone, pda, and have Photoshop built in.


It should also be able to transport itself and understand commands like "go take a few hundred photos of such and such for the next art competition and make sure I win".



Jul 16, 2008 at 11:25 AM
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p.3 #13 · Nikon -- Enough with bodies --- LENSES


How about a shoulder angel feature that just goes "are you sure about that crop?" when you set up a photo?

panos.v wrote:
It should also be able to transport itself and understand commands like "go take a few hundred photos of such and such for the next art competition and make sure I win".




Jul 16, 2008 at 01:35 PM
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p.3 #14 · Nikon -- Enough with bodies --- LENSES


i'm a canon shooter...and to be honest if it weren't for the confusion with Nikon lens and the lack of primes, i would have switched. I have the 35 1.4 and the 135 2.0 which i absolutely LOVE.

i've said the D300 is the body i have been waiting for from Canon....of course until the D700 is out on the market.




Jul 16, 2008 at 03:37 PM
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Tony Brown wrote:
i'm a canon shooter...and to be honest if it weren't for the confusion with Nikon lens and the lack of primes, i would have switched. I have the 35 1.4 and the 135 2.0 which i absolutely LOVE.

i've said the D300 is the body i have been waiting for from Canon....of course until the D700 is out on the market.



What confusion with lenses?

The 35L and 135L are two that Nikon can't beat though!




Jul 16, 2008 at 04:20 PM
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p.3 #16 · Nikon -- Enough with bodies --- LENSES


the dx, fd, etc..etc.


i'm just not familiar with the lens line up.............but boy that D700 has me salivating...i just may be a NiCanonian shooter.


Edited on Jul 16, 2008 at 05:44 PM



Jul 16, 2008 at 05:43 PM
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p.3 #17 · Nikon -- Enough with bodies --- LENSES


Check out what Thom Hogan has to say (scroll down to "What's Next" in this link...)

http://www.bythom.com/



Jul 16, 2008 at 05:48 PM
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p.3 #18 · Nikon -- Enough with bodies --- LENSES


A sharp, compact 85mm f/1.8 AF-S VR would be nice, and a corresponding 135mm f/2.0


Jul 16, 2008 at 06:44 PM
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molson wrote:
Check out what Thom Hogan has to say (scroll down to "What's Next" in this link...)

http://www.bythom.com/


Yea, I read that. He states a possibility of a few new f/1.4 primes. Any guess which focal length? 35, 85...?maybe 24?



Jul 16, 2008 at 11:18 PM
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Tony Brown wrote:
the dx, fd, etc..etc.

i'm just not familiar with the lens line up.............but boy that D700 has me salivating...i just may be a NiCanonian shooter.


FD is the old Canon mount. Canon has FD, EF and EF-S. All incompatible with each other.

Nikon has the F-mount. FX is "full frame", DX is smaller sensors. There is a soup of letter like AF, AFD, AFS, AI, AIS, etc which is just lens features but in practice you can stick any lens made in the last 20 years on a D700 and it will work. You can put a DX lens on the D700 and it will still work, the camera crops it automatically.



Jul 17, 2008 at 03:22 AM
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