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p.37 #1 · "Admirable" blur samples


thrice wrote:
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Here's my take on bokeh complementing subject...


Interesting composition.. which lens is this...


My guess is 24-105 F/4L ?


I wish, thanks....see above post....
...this shot is about 50% of the full frame....I suspect, that at this size, any decent lens shooting soft stuff like this subject would resolve reasonably well...bear in mind that this is an EF lens not an EF-S lens so the edge resolution (likely as not, not particulary sharp) is outside the 1.6x cropped sensor...

Here's a full frame shot...shot at F:7.1


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Jan 28, 2009 at 06:07 AM
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p.37 #2 · "Admirable" blur samples


looks pretty darn good, I used to own the 24-105L and I wouldn't expect much more from it tbh.

Jan 28, 2009 at 06:43 AM
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p.37 #3 · "Admirable" blur samples


200/1.8L on 5D:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/fodder/495783997/" title="Untitled by miami fever, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/199/495783997_e783becca7_b.jpg" width="1024" height="682" alt="" /></a>

50/1.0L on 5D2:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/fodder/3215189878/" title="Untitled by miami fever, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3389/3215189878_feb318e5ef_o.jpg" width="900" height="600" alt="" /></a>

edit: how do you make these links from flickr visible? do I have to be a subscriber?

Jan 28, 2009 at 07:35 AM
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p.37 #4 · "Admirable" blur samples


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200/1.8L on 5D:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/fodder/495783997/" title="Untitled by miami fever, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/199/495783997_e783becca7_b.jpg" width="1024" height="682" alt="" /></a>

50/1.0L on 5D2:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/fodder/3215189878/" title="Untitled by miami fever, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3389/3215189878_feb318e5ef_o.jpg" width="900" height="600" alt="" /></a>

edit: how do you make these links from flickr visible? do I have to be a subscriber?


just post what's inside the comma's after src=

this is your 200/1.8L shot


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and here is the 50/1.0L


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EDIT: wow!... great shots!

Jan 28, 2009 at 07:52 AM
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p.37 #5 · "Admirable" blur samples


cm81 wrote:
200/1.8L on 5D:

50/1.0L on 5D2:



First great shots, especially the first one.

I think the second one is interesting for what it shows about the lens, the 50/1.0L. Look at the row of clothes dryers in the background. I am assuming that they are reasonably parallel to the camera. Look at how much more out of focus the center dryer is. That is some obvious curvature of field. I'm not sure if was intentional, but this curvature is used to good effect.



Jan 28, 2009 at 12:42 PM
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p.37 #6 · "Admirable" blur samples


Great shots thrice! Great use of fast lenses

Jan 28, 2009 at 01:33 PM
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ulrikft wrote:
Great shots thrice! Great use of fast lenses


lol, not my shots, they're cm81's... I knew that would happen. As much as I'd like to take credit for them... I was just reposting cos his links didn't work, see the post above mine.

Jan 28, 2009 at 03:55 PM
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Love the drama and the bokeh/compression of the first shot, cm81

Jan 28, 2009 at 04:02 PM
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200/1.8 is one lens i'd like to try before I die...

Jan 28, 2009 at 04:57 PM
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p.37 #10 · "Admirable" blur samples


Great shots cm81! Especially the first one.

1ds + zuiko 100mm f2.0


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p.37 #11 · "Admirable" blur samples


Lotusm50 wrote:
Look at how much more out of focus the center dryer is. That is some obvious curvature of field.


It has nothing to do with curvature of field. The sharper corners are due to mechanical vignetting. The iris of the aperture isn't circular when looking through it from the corners of the sensor/film plane, and thus its size is also smaller. This makes the DOF larger in the corners, and it is very common with fast lenses. The reason is simply that the front lens element isn't large enough to achieve a round aperture for light hitting the corners of the sensor. Of course, this gives quite alot of vignetting too.

Edit: With wide angle lenses, you can see a similar effect due to the "cosine^4 rule". At large angles of view, the aperture is non circular when seen from the corners of the sensor. If you cut a circular hole in a piece of paper, you will understand why when you view the hole from a large angle. This also gives larger DOF in the corners and natural vignetting (no matter how large the front element is), but not as bad as seen above.

Jan 28, 2009 at 07:32 PM
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Makten wrote:

It has nothing to do with curvature of field. The sharper corners are due to mechanical vignetting. The iris of the aperture isn't circular when looking through it from the corners of the sensor/film plane, and thus its size is also smaller. This makes the DOF larger in the corners, and it is very common with fast lenses. The reason is simply that the front lens element isn't large enough to achieve a round aperture for light hitting the corners of the sensor. Of course, this gives quite alot of vignetting too.


The proper term would be optical or artificial vignetting (in the terminology used by Sid Ray). Theoretically, optical vignetting increases corner DOF, but since this type of vignetting only occurs at large apertures its DOF effect is opposed by oblique lens aberrations which lower the corner DOF relative to the center DOF. The aberrations normally win. Fortunately DOF plays no role in the evaluation of a generously blurred background, and you are perfectly right that optical vignetting results in a reduced corner blur. However, we cannot exclude an additional contribution of field curvature to Lotus' observation, although aberrations are ill defined for out-of-focus parts of the image.

Apart from possible curvature of field, there also seems to be curvature of the dryers themselves. Is the 50/1.0L saddled with such conspicuous barrel distortion?




Jan 28, 2009 at 10:03 PM
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Contax 85/1.4 on 5D



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Rokkor 58/1.2



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Jan 30, 2009 at 01:11 AM
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p.37 #14 · "Admirable" blur samples


Index:

The Index is updated and moved, see the first post of the thread.

Cheers,

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Edited on Feb 13, 2009 at 02:27 AM · View previous versions


Jan 30, 2009 at 01:45 AM
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Jonas B wrote:


Some images are not showing any more. If you want to post something but don't have a long term host PM me and I can host it for you, unless the image is very very ugly of course...


Cheers,

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Jonas


lol

Thanks for all your work on this Jonas! Truly generous and gracious of you.

I can offer hosting as well (an account on my site is all you need). Simply post your own thread or create "communal" threads in either of the galleries and attach your shot(s), then hot-link to them. On my site, they'll appear like http://forum.cogitech.ca/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29 and you can use just the standard img tags to hot-link them here.

Jan 30, 2009 at 02:22 AM
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A few from the Leica 35-70mm f2.8.

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Rob, you just HAVE to explain how you did this shot!


Jan 30, 2009 at 02:49 AM
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Tripod, slow shutter, zoom during exposure.

Try it. It is fun. Short-lived fun, but fun.

Jan 30, 2009 at 04:41 AM
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cogitech wrote:
Thanks for all your work on this Jonas! Truly generous and gracious of you.

I can offer hosting as well (an account on my site is all you need). Simply post your own thread or create "communal" threads in either of the galleries and attach your shot(s), then hot-link to them. On my site, they'll appear like http://forum.cogitech.ca/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29 and you can use just the standard img tags to hot-link them here.


Thank you for commenting on my hard work (at slow times at work only... but anyway).
I had a look at your forum and the feature you implemented for submitting images. How nice it works!

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Canon 450D, Sigma 50/1.4 EX

Jan 30, 2009 at 05:13 AM
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Canon EF50-200L Macro setting



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Edited on Apr 27, 2010 at 02:54 AM · View previous versions


Jan 30, 2009 at 05:40 AM
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Cableaddict wrote:
robsteve wrote:
A few from the Leica 35-70mm f2.8.

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Rob, you just HAVE to explain how you did this shot!


I moved the zoom ring quickly during a slow (1/6 sec) exposure. The secret is to move the zoom ring smoothly, so you get an even blur. I was on a tripod too.

Robert

Jan 30, 2009 at 01:03 PM
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