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Jonas B
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koenrutten wrote:
I think it's mostly about the relative subject to background distance, lens quality is a close second.

Worried (?) faces, nice image.
I agree about the "relative distance" -factor. Then the strong second "lens quality" in some cases can make a good image instead of a mediocre or worse one as another lens would have done in the exact same situation.

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Jul 05, 2008 at 09:56 AM

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p.4 #2 · "Admirable" blur samples

You can't forget the Noctilux, king of Bokeh

These two are at f1.0

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Close up using an extension tube. I think it may have been f1.2.

Jul 05, 2008 at 12:44 PM

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p.4 #3 · "Admirable" blur samples

135 f/2L @ f/2

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@ f/2.5

MP-E 65 f/2.8 @ f/11

Sigma 150 f/2.8 @ f/4

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Jul 05, 2008 at 12:56 PM

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p.4 #4 · "Admirable" blur samples

Brainiac; I posted some unprocessed Leica images for you in the very first reply at page 1. I think it was in the Siggy50 thread you commented on the Leica bokeh to be too soft, or too little edgy. Do the posted samples make you happier?

Jul 05, 2008 at 01:27 PM

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p.4 #5 · "Admirable" blur samples

This is from the Zeiss N 100mm f2.8 Marko Sonnar. It reverses what you would normally or conventionally choose to have in focus and what you would have out of focus.

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Jul 05, 2008 at 01:35 PM

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brainiac wrote:
Zeiss 35 f1.4 at f2. Most people won't like the octagonal highlights, but it doesn't bother me at all, because the bokeh still manages to be alluring

It's not that the highlights are octagonal, it's the hard edges they have that distract my attention from the subject. Is the subject of the photo the bokeh? If so the photo is a smashing success because I can't keep my eyes off the background. If the subject of the photo is the person, the photo is not as successful because the hard edges of the octagons keep drawing my eye away from the subject. Same for the Oly 28/2 photos.

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Jul 05, 2008 at 03:50 PM

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p.4 #7 · "Admirable" blur samples

From all the samples it seems 135mm and anything goes.

Pentax DA* 50-135/2.8 @ 135/5.6:

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Jul 06, 2008 at 01:28 AM

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p.4 #8 · "Admirable" blur samples

What about these? Is this a good bokeh?

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Jul 06, 2008 at 09:06 AM

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p.4 #9 · "Admirable" blur samples

brainiac wrote:
In the case of the bluebell images, it may just be the contrast, or the fact that they are quite small. I would like to see them a bit bigger.

I'm sorry. I missed your earlier reply, I had no intent to nag you. Anyway; contrast and processing are of course changing everything. I took the blubell f/4 image and applied a fairly normal, maybe overdone, routine for web display and then it came out this way:

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Blotchy noise and such is down to the small Olympus sensor, the crop is around 60-70% size. Regards,

Jul 06, 2008 at 10:32 AM

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p.4 #10 · "Admirable" blur samples

How about some non macro nad non close up shots?

Jul 06, 2008 at 10:40 AM

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Pixel Perfect wrote:

@ f/2.5

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Sigma 150 f/2.8 @ f/4

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See thats the kind of bokeh I'm not particularly keen on for general use, this neutral, corrected, super butterry Canon/Sigma bokeh. BUT: d-a-m-n does it suit these two images very well or what?

Thats why I agree with someone who mentioned previously that there's no one-size-fits-all bokeh to suit every image... Every lens is just another paintbrush.

edit: I cant see Brainiac's photos, is it just me?

Cheers,
Spyro

Edited by Spyro P. on Jul 06, 2008 at 11:00 AM GMT

Edited by Spyro P. on Jul 06, 2008 at 11:00 AM GMT

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Jul 06, 2008 at 10:47 AM

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voeboe wrote:
What about these? Is this a good bokeh?

Good or not obviously depends on your taste. To me the bright rings are there and as usual they distract me. They catch my eye when looking at the image and that way they detract from the idea behind taking the image at the first place. But they are not far off and I can image a lot of image I would like a lot more taken with the lens.

The are to the left of the strawberrie is OK, the on to the right is not. The second image is not. I hope that explains my take on it - but remember anyone is entitled to their own opinion.

And - you should let us know what lens you have used here.

Jul 06, 2008 at 10:49 AM

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p.4 #13 · "Admirable" blur samples

Daniel Buck wrote:
here's some that will be difficult on 35mm, a 145mm f2.0 petzval type lens on a 4x5 camera.

Difficult but not impossible if the motif is static and you have the time to make a mosaic and stitch it. The 145/2 has a signature for sure but personally I'm not that keen on the way it draws.
To the left one can see that this lens should be able of making the circular background pattern if the distance and background are right.

Right now I am playing with a Canon 450D, sort of the opposite.

Jul 06, 2008 at 10:58 AM

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p.4 #14 · "Admirable" blur samples

Jonas, I just realised what you did in the OP, thanks for that

What a fantastic thread to have for reference!

Best,
Spyro

Jul 06, 2008 at 11:02 AM

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p.4 #15 · "Admirable" blur samples

s23chang wrote:
How about some non macro nad non close up shots?

I would second that request. More people portraits.

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Jul 06, 2008 at 11:05 AM

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p.4 #16 · "Admirable" blur samples

Spyro P. wrote:
Jonas, I just realised what you did in the OP, thanks for that

What a fantastic thread to have for reference!

You are welcome, and I just updated it. Hmm, this is nothing, wait til' there are 500 lenses or so, in alphanumerical order...

More comments and opinions are always welcome.

I think your request for more images not being close-ups and macros is a good one.

regards,

Pentax SMC-P FA77/1.8, processed (oldie from the archive, here out of context):

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Jul 06, 2008 at 11:12 AM

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p.4 #17 · "Admirable" blur samples

Excellent stuff Jonas, too bad you cant link to posts on this forum.

A few more from the OM Zuiko 50mm 1.8. Sligh PP (colour, sharpen, crop), but no Clarity tool was touched

Portrait

Highlight reflections:

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I have 2x 50mm f1.4 and a 35 f2, both Zuiko, coming this month so will post those results too when I get something decent.

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Jul 06, 2008 at 11:25 AM

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p.4 #18 · "Admirable" blur samples

Jonas B wrote:
voeboe wrote:
What about these? Is this a good bokeh?

Good or not obviously depends on your taste. To me the bright rings are there and as usual they distract me. They catch my eye when looking at the image and that way they detract from the idea behind taking the image at the first place. But they are not far off and I can image a lot of image I would like a lot more taken with the lens.

The are to the left of the strawberrie is OK, the on to the right is not. The second image is not. I hope that explains my take on it - but remember anyone is entitled to their own opinion.

And - you should let us know what lens you have used here.

Oops, sorry. The lens is Volna-9.

Cheers.

Jul 06, 2008 at 11:51 AM

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p.4 #19 · "Admirable" blur samples

This image is just to illustrate the bokeh, so pardon the lame composition. Contax 100/2 on the 1Ds from several years ago -

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Most likely taken wide open.

Jul 06, 2008 at 07:55 PM

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