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Nikon FE2 + 24/2.0 AIS + Kodak Gold 200:
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Dec 21, 2008 at 11:57 PM
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the_wrath_of_khan wrote:
5D+OM 55/1.2 @ f/1.2:



The subjectivity involved with bokeh is clearly on display here. I find the bokeh of these 2 images from the OM 55/1.2 to be quite unappealing.



Dec 22, 2008 at 12:09 AM
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Wow very nice wrath_of_khan, definitely more interesting than the Canon 24/1.4L bokeh. I like the colour from the Kodak gold 200 as well, suits the shot very well.

Dec 22, 2008 at 12:13 AM
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Lotusm50 wrote:
the_wrath_of_khan wrote:
5D+OM 55/1.2 @ f/1.2:



The subjectivity involved with bokeh is clearly on display here. I find the bokeh of these 2 images from the OM 55/1.2 to be quite unappealing.


To each is own, but I find the bokeh radical and exciting, but the softness of the lens is it's second biggest downfall. The first is that it lets in less light that my f/2.5 Nikkors... It is an f/1.2 and a ~t/2.5.

Dec 22, 2008 at 12:40 AM
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thrice wrote:
Wow very nice wrath_of_khan, definitely more interesting than the Canon 24/1.4L bokeh. I like the colour from the Kodak gold 200 as well, suits the shot very well.

Thanks and Kodak Gold is about the worst film ever made.

Dec 22, 2008 at 12:41 AM
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Lotusm50 wrote:
the_wrath_of_khan wrote:
5D+OM 55/1.2 @ f/1.2:



The subjectivity involved with bokeh is clearly on display here. I find the bokeh of these 2 images from the OM 55/1.2 to be quite unappealing.


+1. To each their own, but that bokeh would ruin, for me, of course, anything other than a "wow, look at how funky this bokeh is!" pic.

Dec 22, 2008 at 01:31 AM
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Leica R 90/2.0 Non-Apo


Very nice mood here, Paul.

Dec 22, 2008 at 01:32 AM
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Here are a few more:

D700 and 28/2.0 AI:
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FE2, Expired Kodak Gold 200 and 50/1.2 AIS:
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FE2, Fujicolor 100 and 85/1.4D:
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D700 and 85/1.4D:
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D700 and 35/1.4 AI:
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Dec 22, 2008 at 01:56 AM
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Rokkor:



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Dec 22, 2008 at 02:37 PM
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the_wrath_of_khan wrote:
Nikon FE2 + 24/2.0 AIS + Kodak Gold 200:



Love it!

Dec 22, 2008 at 02:59 PM
 



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Love your images Khan! makes me want to order the 35 1.4 right now! Even though the 28 2.0 (which also rocks in your images) is on it's way!

Dec 22, 2008 at 03:13 PM
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the_wrath_of_khan wrote:
To each is own, but I find the bokeh radical and exciting, but the softness of the lens is it's second biggest downfall. The first is that it lets in less light that my f/2.5 Nikkors... It is an f/1.2 and a ~t/2.5.


no kidding! Right now my Canon 50/1.2 meters my monitor at 1/3200th, the Olympus 55/1.2 at 1/640th! What's the explanation?

Dec 22, 2008 at 07:05 PM
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fourfa wrote:
the_wrath_of_khan wrote:
To each is own, but I find the bokeh radical and exciting, but the softness of the lens is it's second biggest downfall. The first is that it lets in less light that my f/2.5 Nikkors... It is an f/1.2 and a ~t/2.5.


no kidding! Right now my Canon 50/1.2 meters my monitor at 1/3200th, the Olympus 55/1.2 at 1/640th! What's the explanation?


Simple... Glass chews up most of the light in between... just like any filter... Glass material and design impacts the light reaches to the sensor, not just f-stop (it decides how much light to allow going inside)...


Dec 22, 2008 at 08:03 PM
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fourfa wrote:

no kidding! Right now my Canon 50/1.2 meters my monitor at 1/3200th, the Olympus 55/1.2 at 1/640th! What's the explanation?


I assume you're comparing them wide open against a solid subject that fills up the view finder (like a wall), and at same distance. Are you using chipped adapters on one, but not the other? And does the chip show f-1.2 or f-2? And what metering mode?


Dec 22, 2008 at 08:32 PM
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Canon Fd 50 1.2L on 5D

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Dec 22, 2008 at 09:41 PM
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actually yeah my test method was flawed there. tried it some more - identical subject, distance, lighting, ISO, set to the same f1.2 aperture. No chip in the adapter. Adjusted shutter manually for most similar histogram. Then it comes out to a 1-stop difference for the same medium grey subject. With a higher contrast scene, it's more subjective as the OM55 has very low macrocontrast in comparison. interesting, I hadn't thought to check this before.

Dec 22, 2008 at 09:49 PM
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Thanks Anden and Ulrikft. I think you'll love the 28/2, I use mine a lot more than my 35/1.4, but for the really dark stuff I need that 1-stop advantage.

Dec 22, 2008 at 10:05 PM
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What you really should do is shoot both at the same shutter speed and see how much darker the OM 55/1.2 will be. You get the nice shallow DoF from the f/1.2, but a lot closer to t/2 for how much light the lens lets in. I have no idea why that happens. t-stops as I understand them are a measure of how much light actually makes it through the lens, while f-stops are simple a measure of the diameter of the hole, for lack of a better word, that the light comes through.

Fourfa, all these FE2 shots are from your old FE2. Still going strong!

Dec 22, 2008 at 10:09 PM
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p.30 #19 · "Admirable" blur samples


I've totally pimped it out: griptac from cameraleather.com, soft shutter release, eyecup and a nice old Nikon strap.

Dec 22, 2008 at 10:13 PM
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There used to be an index here. The link to the last updated index is in the first post at page 1.

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Edited on Jan 10, 2009 at 04:04 AM · View previous versions


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