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The Nikkor 24-70/2.8 has really impressed me bokeh-wise at medium focal lengths. These are wide open on D700, between 28-50 mm approximately.

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Nov 21, 2008 at 06:24 PM

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Antje wrote:
Agfa Billy Record II:
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Well, it *is* blur though...

Hi Antje,
Is that an Agfa Billy record with the Agfa Anastigmat Jgestar 1:7.7/100mm lens? Not a lot of DOF... and on 6x9 film? Not bad at all!

Nov 21, 2008 at 06:27 PM

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Daniel Buck wrote:
interesting shot Antje! I like it

And nice to see some more film on here

Thank you and the same to you, Daniel!

Antje

Nov 21, 2008 at 07:15 PM

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Jonas B wrote:
Antje wrote:
Agfa Billy Record II:
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Well, it *is* blur though...

Hi Antje,
Is that an Agfa Billy record with the Agfa Anastigmat Jgestar 1:7.7/100mm lens? Not a lot of DOF... and on 6x9 film? Not bad at all!

Thanks!

It's actually a Record II with the Apotar 4.5/105 - not a bad lens at all. I was told the Solinar is better, but I cannot find a flaw in this one to be honest! It's sharp at f/8 and very very good at f/11 and f/16, and makes a nice travel companion. This was taken at maybe 2-3m distance, that certainly affected the DOF.

Wide open, too.

This one had to have a new bellows and a good cleaning, and I guess it's now ready for another 60 years of service...

Here's one at f/11, and at 100%, you can count the wheat sprouts:

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(Sorry, no blur

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Nov 21, 2008 at 07:24 PM

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p.19 #5 · "Admirable" blur samples

Index:

The index is now updated and moved to page 22

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Nov 25, 2008 at 02:21 AM

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Zuiko 50 1.8 @ 1.8 on Canon 1D mkII.

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Nov 25, 2008 at 05:16 AM

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p.19 #7 · "Admirable" blur samples

I don't think anyone else has posted this one so here goes.
Pentax SMC FA* 300/4.5 from the K20D.

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Nov 27, 2008 at 02:00 AM

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p.19 #8 · "Admirable" blur samples

This is the Mamiya 150mm F3.5 AF on a ZD. For a busy background I think it did well. The wind was blowing, so focus was whatever happened to be. Some more pictures from the ZD are available here.

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Nov 27, 2008 at 02:37 AM

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p.19 #9 · "Admirable" blur samples

This was what taken with Mamiya 80mm F2.8 AF and a 12mm extension tube. Outdoors the bokeh is only so-so and it doesn't render busy background very nicely. It has its moments, but nothing special. When coupled with a 12mm tube and used for close up work, then it can be a nice lens -

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80mm @ F4 on a Phase One P25 - close up its bokeh can be quite nice -

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And with a busy background @ F2.8 (645AFDII & P25) --- but this is a fairly close shot -

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A F2.8 candid, taken with the Mamiya ZD -

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Some obligatory dog pix @ F2.8 from the Mamiya ZD -

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The 80mm F2.8 AF can have nice bokeh, but it's very situation specific. The odds of it turning an ulgy background in a nicely abstracted blur is pretty slim unless the composition is shot really tight (close-up). I do give it points for being an extremely versatile lens. My $.02 anyway...

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Nov 27, 2008 at 02:40 AM

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p.19 #10 · "Admirable" blur samples

Jonas - if you want more Mamiya samples, I've got 'em. Let me know. Some of the lenses include - Hass 110/2 FE, Hass 120/4 F, Mamiya 200mm F2.8 APO, Mamiya 80mm F1.9 and... probably some others, I need to go dumpster diving on the hard drive.

Nov 27, 2008 at 02:44 AM

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Anden wrote:
Zuiko 50 1.8 @ 1.8 (...)

I don't mind the image but Olympus really didn't get the their bokeh in order, with any of their 50mm lenses imo. Hälsningar,

Nov 27, 2008 at 07:48 PM

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John Black wrote:
Jonas - if you want more Mamiya samples, I've got 'em. Let me know. Some of the lenses include - Hass 110/2 FE, Hass 120/4 F, Mamiya 200mm F2.8 APO, Mamiya 80mm F1.9 and... probably some others, I need to go dumpster diving on the hard drive.

Of course John. I think many would like to see samples frome the lenses you mention. Then it is of course easy to just sit and say Yes! But they will be appreciated, post them when you got some spare time.

Thank you.

Nov 27, 2008 at 07:50 PM

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p.19 #13 · "Admirable" blur samples

Hasselblad 110 F2 Planar FE (5th Generation - with rear square baffle). The bokeh can be nice on a full-frame dSLR, but I think it's better on a 645 camera. If shooting with 5D, etc., I'd opt for the MUCH cheap Contax 100/2 Planar.

On a 1Ds3 -

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On a Mamiya 645AFDII w/ a P25 -

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Some more examples with the 1Ds3 here; click on the images for a larger view. I like the 110mm on medium format, but for 35mm use it doesn't do much for me. There are many cheaper, smaller and lighter alternatives. The bokeh can be nice, but on busy backgrounds it has trouble.

Nov 28, 2008 at 03:21 AM

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add one Kinoptik 100/2 on 5D

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Nov 28, 2008 at 03:26 AM

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Jonas B wrote:
Anden wrote:
Zuiko 50 1.8 @ 1.8 (...)

I don't mind the image but Olympus really didn't get the their bokeh in order, with any of their 50mm lenses imo. Hälsningar,

I posted it more as a reference. I do not like it for it´s smoothness. I can be useful sometimes though.
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Nov 28, 2008 at 05:09 AM

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Anden wrote:
Jonas B wrote:
Anden wrote:
Zuiko 50 1.8 @ 1.8 (...)

I don't mind the image but Olympus really didn't get the their bokeh in order, with any of their 50mm lenses imo. Hälsningar,

I posted it more as a reference. I do not like it for it´s smoothness. I can be useful sometimes though.
A

Reading my post again today I wish I had worded myself differently. "I don't mind the image" sounds just snobbish and stupid and as i thought I decided about things. Ouch.
I really tried to say "I like the image, but..."

I'm sorry for that,

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Nov 28, 2008 at 06:31 AM

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p.19 #17 · "Admirable" blur samples

No worries Jonas. I am not that sensitive :-) The image is was just a test. I have one shot with the Rokkor at almost the same spot. I will post it later.
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Nov 28, 2008 at 06:33 AM

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p.19 #18 · "Admirable" blur samples

Just to add to the others photos of amazing bokeh of the Rokkor 58 1.2 (on Canon 50D)

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Nov 29, 2008 at 10:48 AM

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p.19 #19 · "Admirable" blur samples

I actually like the later zuiko 50f1.8 - it has sort of a water paint effect (there are 8 or so derivatives of the 50f1.8 so it is a difficult lens to talk about).

One thing I don't get is the Rokkor 58f1.2 - many people loves this lens and I guess it is sharp enough but nearly all the images I've seen posted from this lens turns me off - I'm not sure - but they always seem a bit washed out or lacking in fine detail (not resolution but tonal change - maybe lack of contrast or micro contrast or some other term I'm missing) - hard to put my finger on it but that is one lens the masses seem to like that I just don't get...

Nov 29, 2008 at 06:55 PM

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p.19 #20 · "Admirable" blur samples

My wife has this old plant in the window that keeps on giving...

Shot with a 5D & Rokkor 58/1.2 at f/2.0

PS: I have zero issues with the contrast or detail with this lens. It has nice character near wide open and is very sharp stopped down a bit. But its fun to play with near wide open...

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Nov 29, 2008 at 07:30 PM

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you2 wrote:
I actually like the later zuiko 50f1.8 - it has sort of a water paint effect (there are 8 or so derivatives of the 50f1.8 so it is a difficult lens to talk about).

One thing I don't get is the Rokkor 58f1.2 - many people loves this lens and I guess it is sharp enough but nearly all the images I've seen posted from this lens turns me off - I'm not sure - but they always seem a bit washed out or lacking in fine detail (not resolution but tonal change - maybe lack of contrast or micro contrast or some other term I'm missing) - hard to put my finger on it but that is one lens the masses seem to like that I just don't get...

Yeah, PhotoMaximums flower shot is just damn ugly!

Washed out: Any lens shooting at 1.2 as wide open will look a bit washed out.
Lacking in fine detail: No.
Lacking in tonal change: No.
Lack of contrast: Depends on software, mostly.
Lack of microcontrast: No.
Hard to put finger on: Sure.

PS; Photomax, the flower shot is fantastic

Nov 29, 2008 at 10:55 PM

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Canon EOS 20D 58 mm f/1.2 1/125 sec 1600 ISO 0.0 EV

Nov 30, 2008 at 12:47 AM

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ovredal73 wrote:
PS; Photomax, the flower shot is fantastic

Thanks!

Pretty simple shot really. The flower was about a foot away from the window on a dull day. Most of the light is just window light with a little extra illumination on the flower from a small penlight flashlight (torch)...

Nov 30, 2008 at 01:26 AM

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ovredal73 wrote:

Washed out: Any lens shooting at 1.2 as wide open will look a bit washed out.
Lacking in fine detail: No.
Lacking in tonal change: No.
Lack of contrast: Depends on software, mostly.
Lack of microcontrast: No.
Hard to put finger on: Sure.

PS; Photomax, the flower shot is fantastic

Ok, I give up. Maybe I should try a Rokkor 58/1.2 again... So, ovredal, do you have any up for sale?

Photomax - I also like that image! It may be a simple shot, as flowers standing in windows often are, but it grabs the beholder from the first second.
Technically I adore the lack of Longitudinal CA. But I think I would crop away the rightmost part.

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Nov 30, 2008 at 01:36 AM

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Crossposting, rokkor 58 1.2 @ 1.2

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Nov 30, 2008 at 01:46 AM


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