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p.7 #1 · Pics from 14-24mm on EOS bodies

Thank you.

I´m thinking about buying a 1Ds MKIII, but is live view really as accurate as the Viewfinder (or even better)?

@montespluga:
I´ve seen you are from Switzerland, could you tell me where you bought your splittscreen?
As I´m from Austria, I prefer to by in Europe. Otherwise the Shipping costs are twice the price of the Splittscreen.

Sep 16, 2008 at 07:22 AM

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roschko

I ordered it at the local dealer, where I bought the 1 DS Mk2. It took them about a month to get it from Canon.

Sep 16, 2008 at 08:20 AM

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Roschko,
If live view is important to you...you may want to consider something other than the 1DsIII. There are cameras at half the price that have superior, best of class LCD's/Live View. That's one of the reasons that I didn't keep a 1DsIII much as I would have liked to. I felt like Canon insulted our intelligence by putting a 2nd rate LCD in their flagship 8K camera. The recent Nikons have better LCD's, the new Sony has a better LCD, the new LEAF back has a nice 3.5" tilting LCD, and a whole slew of low range cameras have nice, articulating LCD's. Some old pros poo-poo liveview, while others are realizing just how valuable (even invaluable) it can be for certain applications. Hopefully, the new 5DII will have a nice LCD. If it doesn't - I'm jumping ship.
Cheers,
Scott

Sep 16, 2008 at 04:06 PM

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I love the live view on my 1ds3. It's invaluable...

Sep 16, 2008 at 06:28 PM

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I use live view almost every day in studio great for arranging things and focusing. It can speed up a still life shoot by 30% and no more climbing up on the ladder for straight down shots. I wish they made one of those viewers for using in the daylight! For now I will have to use my old 4x5 dark cloth and really look the part.

Sep 16, 2008 at 07:24 PM

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dennishh wrote:
I use live view almost every day in studio great for arranging things and focusing. It can speed up a still life shoot by 30% and no more climbing up on the ladder for straight down shots. I wish they made one of those viewers for using in the daylight! For now I will have to use my old 4x5 dark cloth and really look the part.

The new Canon LCD is daylight viewable

Sep 16, 2008 at 07:59 PM

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As live view comes of the imaging sensor it is accurate.

roschko wrote:
Thank you.

I´m thinking about buying a 1Ds MKIII, but is live view really as accurate as the Viewfinder (or even better)?

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Sep 16, 2008 at 08:02 PM

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You might be able to make out things generally, but any flair or direct sun kills it.

Sep 16, 2008 at 09:00 PM

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p.7 #9 · Pics from 14-24mm on EOS bodies

Happy Birthday, Scott (Anon Moss).

Scott was nice enough to loan me his 14-24 for a couple of weeks this summer and although i didn't get too many opps to shoot at that wide angle zoom range (i was right in the middle of summer monsoon season shooting the grand canyon and monument valley, vistas to extensive for ultra-wides), i did shoot a few along the west fork of oak creek near my home in sedona.

i post one here from the nikon 14-24 and a second from the 16-35 II. although my experience with the lens was brief, my impressions were that the nikon was wonderfully sharp thru the corners and edges, keeping detail where the canon loses it.

the adaptor was quite easy to use, and the addition of the focus confirmation chip is a boon to anyone who has tried to focus in early or late low light situations with the kind of critical hyperfocal distances that the kind of prominent ultra-wide foregrounds require. in the past, even with a brightscreen, split prism focusing screen installed, the lack of that reassuring focus confirmation "beeP" drove me mad and i lost more shots than i like to admit b/c focusing in low light, in a small viewfinder, with just your eye is, frankly, damn hard.

the nikon surely represents a breakthrough for canon shooters long bereft at the lack of quality wide options. if the adaptor becomes readily available, i can see many making the move to this wonderful lens although the recent zeiss announcement of ef mount lenses, in particular the redesign of the venerable 21mm distagon may steal some of the adapted nikon thunder. yet to be seen, how good the new disagon will be, but it surely has many salivating at the thought. who knows, with all this competition maybe canon will even get off their asses and makes something prime or zoom in the wide/ultra-wide range that matches their 35L, 85L and 135L in quality. one can dream, yes?

PS: pardon the larger size uploads; i figured large and highest res would be the most revealing . . .

Nikon 14-24 @ 20mm

Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L USM Mark II

Sep 25, 2008 at 05:02 PM

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Thanks Derek!
Wow - both images are beautiful - you sure have a nice backyard!
I appreciate you taking the time to share your thoughts and images. I have learned
a lot from your images, tutorials (landscape forum), advice and e-mails.
Probably what I like most about FM is the patience and generosity of the many talented folks here who freely share their knowledge with us less fortunates :-)
Cheers,
Scott

Sep 25, 2008 at 05:59 PM

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I recently photographed the inside of a car for a drivers education website. I used the Nikon 14-24 for all the shots. I have to say that it is one of the most impressive lenses that I've ever used. Here is a sample and a 100% crop.
Dan
www.danbrownphotography.com
Canon 1dsmk3, f/8ish, 14mm

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Sep 25, 2008 at 10:48 PM

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14-24@ f5.6 Just walking around.

2012 © dennishh

Sep 26, 2008 at 02:01 AM

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desnnishh

it looks like the 14 -24 with Mark's adaptor can be handheld, even when rotating it for stopping down? So the steps would be?

- framing and focussing
- rotating; closing the f-stop
- framing again...

Another question:
As it has a front similar to a fisheye, it's more prone to dust and other dirt.
How do you clean it, by avoiding scratches and smearings, etc on the coatings ?

Sep 26, 2008 at 08:21 AM

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Hopefully we'll see some more action on this thread in the next few days: I've posted more than 40 adaptors in the last 12 hours!

Sep 26, 2008 at 10:33 AM

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it looks like the 14 -24 with Mark's adaptor can be handheld, even when rotating it for stopping down? So the steps would be?
- framing and focussing
- rotating; closing the f-stop
- framing again...

The lens is so sharp it doesn't need smaller than f5.6 for practically perfect corners. Handheld, I often set it to f5.6 (like a Sigma 12-24mm at the long end!) and work through the viewfinder - compose, focus-confirm, click. Otherwise, it's the usual stop-down-metering routine: frame, focus, set aperture, click.

Another question: As it has a front similar to a fisheye, it's more prone to dust and other dirt.
How do you clean it, by avoiding scratches and smearings, etc on the coatings ?

Carefully. Or professionally. The third shoot I did with mine was at a waste processing industrial facility. It came back filthy.

Sep 26, 2008 at 10:39 AM

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I hand hold this lens all the time. I tend to use a mono pod in lower light situations, mostly because of the 1dsmklll's ability to emphasis camera movement. I usually frame the shot and focus on the area of the frame I want in focus at f2.8. When I want everything in focus I close the lens to f5.6 or f8 and use focus confirmation near the center of the frame. This lens has an very large depth of field, at f8 its from infinity to about 2 feet. If I'm on a tripod I mostly frame the shot then zoom into 24mm, focus on what I want and zoom back out. Because you turn the lens to shut it down you can see the edges come into focus as you turn something like pushing the depth of field preview button. For action shoots all I do is guess at the distance and set it on the lens and shoot at f5./6.
For lens cleaning I just use an air blower to keep the dust off and haven't needed to clean it yet. I would use Eclipse solution and pec pads to do this. For lens protection I carry the lens hood in my pocket and put it on the lens when not shooting. I've found that the built in lens shade does afford some protection. The image below was shot at f2.8 with the lens pushed against the window and focused on the center poster with focus confirmation.

2012 © dennishh

Sep 26, 2008 at 01:08 PM

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p.7 #17 · Pics from 14-24mm on EOS bodies

Thanks for the replies, seems easy.
dennishh's zoom-in method looks like to be a very precise methode; does it works with every focal lengths?

Does infinity remains at the same position, for all focal lenghts, when using the adaptor?
Usually, whit a adaptor, you can't rely on the native lense's distance scale.

Therefore, it could make sense to add a mark at infinity (when using the adaptor) for long exposures in extrem low light, when AFconfirm might fail.
Just to name a example, for wide angle shots of the night sky...

Sep 27, 2008 at 09:19 PM

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How do you set the aperture exactly? A step by step process would be nice. Can I go higher than f/8? f/11?

Sep 29, 2008 at 09:09 AM

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Anon Moss wrote:
Just got an update from John at LEE filters regarding the use of filters on the Nikon 14-24G:

"Hi Scott,
The FKD100/98 is a custom part that can be ordered directly from Lee by calling the number below. It costs $70 and takes about a month to make. It mounts in the FK100 holder so mounting on the lens is not necessary.
The FK100 push-on filter holder is $160 and can also be purchased directly from Lee or one of our larger retailers like B&H Photo.
The holder mounts by sliding over the petal shade. You turn a knob and the holder clamps down on the shade with a built-in collar. Then all the normal Lee filters can be used. We recommend that the gaps behind the holder left by the shorter petals be covered to avoid reflections. They can be taped or some photographers use a “scrunchy” (women’s elastic pony-tail holder) which seems to work quite well.
Here’s a photo and description. After you click on the link, scroll down in the small window to “Push On Filter Holder” and click on it."
http://www.leefilters.com/camera/products/finder/ref:C4756775B6C7AE/
Sincerely,
John Adler
LEE Filters USA / Screen Shade
(800)576-5055

I've been using Lee filters on my Sigma 12-24mm for years. It's tricky and far from ideal but it's "do-able".

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Sep 29, 2008 at 11:54 AM

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That will work just perfectly!! Is the 110mm polarizer big enough for the 14-24?
Thanks,
Dennis

Sep 30, 2008 at 12:44 AM

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