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anselwannab
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p.4 #1 · Nikon D700 ...


Wow, as a Canon shooter, it just amazes me how Canon seems to do everything in its power to screw up in the dSLR market. If the 5D II had come out last year or even in April as rumored, this Nikon camera would have been an also ran. Now it looks like Nikon might beat the 5DmkII to the market. Add in autofocus issues and Canon seems to be losing its edge in technology and marketing.

I mean, gear is not everything, one of my favorite cameras to shoot is a meterless Zorki rangefinder. But I have some serious cash in Canon glass, and while the EOS gear shoots well, if I see that I could have had it better......

I was at a Curcuit City a few months ago and a Sony rep was there and he said that their FF pro-sumer body was on its way soon. (I know it totally sounds made up, I did find it odd that the Sony rep went into detail about their dSLR plans with a guy in a tshirt and crappy shorts (me) on a Tuesday afternoon.)

Canon better wake up and smell the pixels.



Jun 18, 2008 at 02:44 PM
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p.4 #2 · Nikon D700 ...


Canon will respond. The market always changes in waves.

Nikon has been playing catchup for a while, which started to end with the release of the D200. A couple bodies later, and now it's Canon's turn to play catchup. Soon enough, Nikon will find itself behind again and will have to work to get back in the lead.

Any market works like this. Companies lack the resources and motivation to maintain a position as technology leader forever. You Canon folk will get your toys, too.

Jun 18, 2008 at 02:58 PM
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p.4 #3 · Nikon D700 ...


poisonpill wrote:
Also how many people out there can swing $2500-$3000 on a new camera? This isn't chump change anymore. At least not for me.

I'll not swing it till they up up the stock of new FF lenses

Jun 18, 2008 at 03:25 PM
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p.4 #4 · Nikon D700 ...


Why does it appear to have a flash assist lamp ? If it's FF with a larger VF (and therefore no on-board flash), isn't that a waste of space? (i.e. is this a hoax?)

Jun 18, 2008 at 03:48 PM
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p.4 #5 · Nikon D700 ...


Photoniks wrote:
Why does it appear to have a flash assist lamp ? If it's FF with a larger VF (and therefore no on-board flash), isn't that a waste of space? (i.e. is this a hoax?)


My "Full Frame" N80 had a focus assist lamp. It also had a Pop-Up flash.

Jun 18, 2008 at 03:56 PM
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p.4 #6 · Nikon D700 ...


This doesn't look as though it has a pop up flash to me though.....

Jun 18, 2008 at 04:00 PM
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Photoniks wrote:
Why does it appear to have a flash assist lamp ? If it's FF with a larger VF (and therefore no on-board flash), isn't that a waste of space? (i.e. is this a hoax?)


Why would a focus assist lamp require an on-board flash?

And since when have FF cameras not been able to accommodate on-board flashes? A lot of 35mm camera owners are going to be severely disillusioned.

Jun 18, 2008 at 04:02 PM
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binary visions wrote:
Photoniks wrote:
Why does it appear to have a flash assist lamp ? If it's FF with a larger VF (and therefore no on-board flash), isn't that a waste of space? (i.e. is this a hoax?)


Why would a focus assist lamp require an on-board flash?

And since when have FF cameras not been able to accommodate on-board flashes? A lot of 35mm camera owners are going to be severely disillusioned.


It's a good point, but I thought that the lamp only ever fired when light was so bad that flash (on-board) was needed. It just looks a bit odd to me, especially since the D700 is squeezed in so tightly on the other side (cf D3).

Not sure, just a thought. (and I kind of meant to write flash assist lamp [redeye?], but put focus instead)

Edited on Jun 18, 2008 at 04:06 PM


Jun 18, 2008 at 04:04 PM
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Photoniks wrote:
binary visions wrote:
Photoniks wrote:
Why does it appear to have a flash assist lamp ? If it's FF with a larger VF (and therefore no on-board flash), isn't that a waste of space? (i.e. is this a hoax?)


Why would a focus assist lamp require an on-board flash?

And since when have FF cameras not been able to accommodate on-board flashes? A lot of 35mm camera owners are going to be severely disillusioned.


It's a good point, but I thought that the lamp only ever fired when light was so bad that flash (on-board) was needed. It just looks a bit odd to me, especially since the D700 is squeezed in so tightly on the other side (cf D3).

Not sure, just a thought. (and I kind of meant to write flash assist lamp [redeye?], but put focus instead)


I can't remember, it's been so long, but I think that on the N80, it acted as both af assist and red eye reducer..whatever it's function, it was annoying as hell.


Jun 18, 2008 at 04:08 PM
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p.4 #10 · Nikon D700 ...


If that hump of the prism box is what this new body would have - it would be a sad day, to have such a poor viewfinder on a new FF camera. The size of the prism box dictates several charecteristics - all which seem essential on a body of this level.

Don't get me wrong, I don't like being the guy with the glum face, trying to wreck a party for a bunch of happy campers, all decked out with party hats and champagne ... but at the same time, it's generally better to wait for the guest of honor before popping corks. It stops "red face" syndrome.

Side's .... another body? Sheesh. We all think we need more, more more. It will still take years to really get the most out of todays bodies.

Lenses? Now that's the thing. PRIMES! PLEASE! Or do I have to go back to Canon?

Jun 18, 2008 at 04:21 PM
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p.4 #11 · Nikon D700 ...


Looks like it has a pretty good size VF box to me. In the one shot from the front, the camera is tilted back so the VF box looks small, but it the other shots it looks appropriately sized for 35mm. It appears that the VF box slopes down quite a bit from the back to front, so I would expect it to look small from the front with the camera tilted back.

Jun 18, 2008 at 04:38 PM
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p.4 #12 · Nikon D700 ...


Looks like an opportune time to pick up a 2nd D300 on the cheap once this comes out.

Jun 18, 2008 at 04:39 PM
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p.4 #13 · Nikon D700 ...


If they could put FF sensor in the DCS Pro 14n w/ pop-up flash (Nikon F80 or N80) in 2002, why not possible with the rumored D700 6 years later in 2008?


Edited by danjacquitaylo on Jun 18, 2008 at 09:30 AM GMT






Edited on Jun 18, 2008 at 05:30 PM


Jun 18, 2008 at 04:49 PM
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p.4 #14 · Nikon D700 ...


Let's keep our respective fingers crossed then

Edited on Jun 18, 2008 at 05:00 PM


Jun 18, 2008 at 05:00 PM
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p.4 #15 · Nikon D700 ...


if this is true, its going to be another hard blow to Canon. Either way you look at it, competition is good for the consumer.

Jun 18, 2008 at 05:18 PM
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p.4 #16 · Nikon D700 ...


Pavel wrote:
I don't like being the guy with the glum face,


We don't either




Jun 18, 2008 at 05:23 PM
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p.4 #17 · Nikon D700 ...


diggitydawg510 wrote:
Looks like an opportune time to pick up a 2nd D300 on the cheap once this comes out.


That was my first take on it too!

Jun 18, 2008 at 05:47 PM
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p.4 #18 · Nikon D700 ...


Ok. I guess you guys are right. I'm listing my D300 and D2xs right now!

Jun 18, 2008 at 05:53 PM
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p.4 #19 · Nikon D700 ...


If its a hoax, its one hell of a job. The amount of detail doesnt seem like it is a hoax, but you never know. Anyhow, I am excited nevertheless.

Jun 18, 2008 at 06:00 PM
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p.4 #20 · Nikon D700 ...


I dont' think so tuan. I think the paper thing hides much from scrutiny. I wonder if anyone knows of any add, foreign or domestic that used the same layout for the D200 or D300 - either one of which, if you do a bit of post .. this could be. In fact for a second I thought that the text orientation of the D700 in the add was not perfect ... but the uneven nature makes it impossible to judge for sure - as does the tiny size.

But what the heck. Where is my party hat?

Jun 18, 2008 at 06:15 PM
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p.4 #21 · Nikon D700 ...


diggitydawg510 wrote:
Looks like an opportune time to pick up a 2nd D300 on the cheap once this comes out.


The price has already dropped I noticed. On the B&H website it's only $1,699 once it's in your basket.

Cheers,
S6ix

Jun 18, 2008 at 06:31 PM
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p.4 #22 · Nikon D700 ...


for 3€€€ i am sold.
d3 is too big to be caried around but crop is too much limiting with actual lenses availability.
either give me 50-150 or D700 but soon

Jun 18, 2008 at 06:49 PM
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p.4 #23 · Nikon D700 ...


fkhfineart wrote:

either give me 50-150 or D700 but soon


+1 on those sentiments. I have been screaming that for 3 years....


Jun 18, 2008 at 07:11 PM
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p.4 #24 · Nikon D700 ...


look at the text reaaaly carefully in this shot:


This image is copyrighted by the owner




The second O ... does not line up

Jun 18, 2008 at 07:14 PM
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p.4 #25 · Nikon D700 ...


Pavel wrote:


The second O ... does not line up


The only O I am worried about is when my wife says "O my god, you spent how much?"

Seriously, maye it's just a wrinkle in the paper.


Jun 18, 2008 at 07:20 PM

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