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How about the safety side of things? Have you ever feel threatened?


No, the 1DM3 with a 70-200 2.8L on it makes for a great weapon.

May 09, 2008 at 04:36 PM
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Dislike it. So much I even started to consider buying some small rangefinder camera when shooting somewhere where lot of people around can be expected.

Worst case is shooting somewhere on exhibitions or some actions like big mineral exchange etc. Photography is allowed here, but many people glare at me like I'm gonna rob the place in the evening, I even met one guy taking photo of me as "an evidence". Others with compacts and phone shooters can usually shoot without problems. On the other hand, on such actions, when shooting some particular sample, it's better to ask person to whom that belongs, in most cases it's without any problem then...

By the way: The most frequent question when I meet someone with prime 400 mm lens attached: "How big zoom does that have?"

May 09, 2008 at 04:49 PM
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in the past i didnt care what ppl think when i take out my camera w/ a huge lense attached (back in the film days). But now I am afraid to do that.. why?? because everyone has a DSLR w/ a L or white lense. and once they see someone they start looking at you funny... or they might think "oh, this guy is not using a L"

May 09, 2008 at 04:58 PM
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Dislike it.


I've accumulated better gear over the years, to help me get the best shots possible when I'm out and about. Unfortunately, in the more interesting parts of the UK at least, having flashier looking gear will generally either:


a) get you into trouble with people that think you're a paparazzi vampire, resulting in loss of stealth and inconspicuous advantage..

b) drag you into a conversation about the gear with some genuinely interested member of the public

c) get you mugged and spending the next few hours in hospital and/or police station


Ironically, any of the above will probably result in you missing a shot that you could have otherwise got by secretly toting a mobilephone with a 2mpix cam.. lol.


S.

May 09, 2008 at 05:04 PM
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I do the sort of photography that generally attracts attention. When I take NYC skyline shots, I generally have to go to places where there are a lot of tourists with point-and-shoots (or D40x/XTi-class cameras with kit lenses). They don't bother me usually...a lot just stare at me with my tripod and white lens (a 70-200 f/4). Some ask me to take their picture...I don't mind, but I doubt my pics come out any better than theirs What's fun is when someone who has a DSLR wants to talk shop...I've picked up more than a few tricks from those conversations, and I've taught a few people how to do HDRs. Mostly harmless.

Aviation photography attracts much less harmless attention. The cops don't mind us; most of them have seen us and know that we're an extra set of eyes who will call them the second we see something untoward, and I (or my lawyer) can always talk my way out of it with the ones who don't like us. The problem are the passersby who threaten to call the cops, the FBI, the DHS, the TSA, etc. You really want to infuriate someone? When they threaten to call the cops, respond "Please do!"

Speaking of safety, a couple of weeks ago I was carrying my camera bag and a tripod, and some jerk on the subway was getting off the train threatened punch me in the face if I didn't stop crowding him with my bag. I ignored him. After he got off the train, some woman says, "I'm impressed that you ignored him." I said, "He wasn't going to do anything, and nothing I said could have helped." Some other guy says, "And you could have used that tripod to defend yourself anyway." Amusing in hindsight, not so much at the time...

(A note on my appearance: I'm medium height, very white, and you'd never know from looking at me that I lift weights 3-4 times per week...)

May 09, 2008 at 05:09 PM
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Cementjungle wrote:
wkhc168 wrote:
How about the safety side of things? Have you ever feel threatened?


No, the 1DM3 with a 70-200 2.8L on it makes for a great weapon.


Talking about weapon, I have a good one.. or bad one for me...

I was working in a building next to the US consulates in Toronto and one day at lunch I decided to go out shooting around the office (I guess you can see where this is going by now). A few minutes later after taking a few shots on the street (not at the US consulate at all) I wandered further along and suddenly an unmarked car pull up infront of me and an RCMP officer came out and asked me why I was taking picture of the US consolate. I explain to him that I work next door and photography is just a hobby of mine. He asked if I have any weapons on me, and I joked " no, unless you consider this (my 5D and a 70-200L) a weapon!" He was not amused at all about that comment. Some people has no sense of humor . Then he asked for my IDs and took down my info. I offered to show him my photos on the LCD and he just glanced at it briefly. I think I am on the black list somewhere now but fortunately I have traveled to the US since then and didn't get stopped at the boarder.


May 09, 2008 at 05:34 PM
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Depends on who it's coming from. A few quick comments or questions don't bug me at all and I feel "proud" of my equipment, but then there are the people who don't shuttup and interfere with what I'm doing. I especially hate the "how many MP does that have?" and I've started replying lately with "31" to which I get some great looks on their faces

May 09, 2008 at 05:46 PM
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Spock lonewolf wrote:

By the way: The most frequent question when I meet someone with prime 400 mm lens attached: "How big zoom does that have?"



That too. My roomate just bought a Canon P&S with 10x zoom, and she has asked me a few times "how much zoom does your camera have?" and I try to explain to her the differences but I get the deer in the headlights look from her. She's not terribly bright.

May 09, 2008 at 05:47 PM
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Spock lonewolf wrote:

By the way: The most frequent question when I meet someone with prime 400 mm lens attached: "How big zoom does that have?"


Yep...

May 09, 2008 at 05:55 PM
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I can furt on command and that pretty much takes the, err, wind, outta their sails. Also, mumbling in Korean is helpful.

May 09, 2008 at 06:11 PM
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There are times when I don't mind the attention, and times when I really don't want it. If I don't want to draw attention to myself I'll typically carry my XTI, without grip, with my 50 f/1.4, or some times my 85 f/1.8.

I get a bit annoyed when people ask me how much my gear costs. I never come out and tell them exactly, I just give a ball park number to them that it would cost them if they wanted to go out and buy the same gear brand new.

I haven't been shooting all that long with DSLR's, but I've been asked more times than I can remember how far I can see with my 24-70 and my 70-200. People really seem disappointed that I can't zoom in on a fly sitting on the park bench 20 feet away.

I regularly worry, and take precautions with my gear as far as possible theft is concerned. I'm a bit paranoid that way. No close encounters for me yet.

Mark

May 09, 2008 at 06:12 PM
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Venus, you'd have to post a portrait of yourself to get us to answer your question

Don't feel threatened and only get annoyed if they bug me while I'm shooting, at which point I politely ask them to wait just a second till I'm finished.

Biggest part to not feeling threatened is to know, observe, respect, and be otherwise aware of your surroundings. Don't put yourself at unnecessary risk.

May 09, 2008 at 06:18 PM
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Threatened shoe's on the other foot here. If you don't know me I can appear quite intimidating.
Then there's always that fear of nasty rabid 'monkey bites, my gear's safe.

May 09, 2008 at 06:29 PM
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I'm simply an amateur hobbyist that enjoys taking photos with quality gear. When I got my Mk3 I was worried about taking it out in public. I've since insured all my gear, and bottom line is that if someone wants my stuff, I'm not going to endanger myself trying to keep it.



May 09, 2008 at 06:38 PM
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I dislike the attention from family members steeped in point and shoots. One of them who goes, "holy S! WTF is THAT? while staring at me shooting some portraits. Oh, har har. Funny.

In the city, I get occasional inquisitive stares, but nothing verbal.

May 09, 2008 at 06:40 PM
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Yeah, I had a similar "bad feeling" taking that exact same shot last year. At the time I was with someone else so it wasn't so bad, but that's why I don't take the expensive stuff with me when shooting citiescapes and the like. OK, the 24-70 goes with me, but the mk2 doesn't.


In that part of SF you're more likely to be accosted by a drunk sorority girl with fake boobs or step in a pile of frat-boy vomit than come across a thug, but it does get dark down there, I'll give you that, and caution is always recommended in a strange city.



May 09, 2008 at 07:08 PM
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I'm simply an amateur hobbyist that enjoys taking photos with quality gear. When I got my Mk3 I was worried about taking it out in public. I've since insured all my gear, and bottom line is that if someone wants my stuff, I'm not going to endanger myself trying to keep it.


Agreed. That's what insurance is for, after all... peace of mind.


May 09, 2008 at 07:09 PM
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The only I time I had attention I didn't like was when I was using a Sinar 5x4 photographing a church exterior in my city centre. Although in fairness those things kind of make people do a double take everytime they see one. I think people expect to see the corpse of Billy The Kid in front of some apparently 'antique' camera.

When I'm out with the Canon kit I've only gotten positive attention so far. Some curiosity, but mainly help and even offers of work.

May 09, 2008 at 07:24 PM
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I simply love the attention, nay, adulation, I get while walking around the town armed with my big white 70-200 f/4. The home made press ID tag "Sports Illustrated, PetKal" is usually prominently displayed on my breast pocket.

May 09, 2008 at 07:48 PM
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ModBoyzz wrote:
That you receive when you walk around with your DSLR and your big lens. I'll admit that I get kind of bothered when I stop to take a shot, and a whole crowd of people just freeze and stare at me. (like I'm some type of alien). Bothered enough to get rid of my kit? Definitely not, but how do you guys feel about it?


If I'm getting paid to do the shoot no problems but if it's a personal or social situation then I do feel awkward. For example this month my son is graduating and I'll feel conspicuous just bringing a 20D with a 24 1.4.

Smaller is better for me.


May 09, 2008 at 08:02 PM
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My nephew's graduation will see a gripped 5D with 70-200 f/2.8 L IS. I don't care what the others think.

May 09, 2008 at 09:46 PM
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I can remember shooting a wedding in Bath at the historic Roman Baths. I ask the bride and groom to look right down the lens. They said "which one" i turn to my left to see 5-6 tourist all armed with DSLR's with a large selection of white lenses that at the time i could only dream of. They all waned pictures of the English wedding

May 09, 2008 at 10:17 PM
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I hate to enjoy the attention.

Seriously, it depends on what I'm doing and what kind of attention I'm receiving. I'm always happy to talk to somebody, of any age or persuasion, who has real interest and who asks serious questions - as long as I'm not approaching that critical moment. OTOH, I rarely enjoy dealing with somebody who wants to use me as a prop to amuse his* friends, or more likely, acquaintances, as a foil for his rapier-like wit (here goes an appropriate emoticon to denote resigned acceptance that such people do exist [I've met them], and they actually seem to breed successfully).

*I only use gender-specific pronouns when appropriate.

May 09, 2008 at 10:39 PM
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mttran wrote:
Mee tooo - this is one of reasons why all my lens are prime in black and shorter than 200.



I hope this is joke? I don't care, yes it is annoying sometimes but not more than this. Besides I am not pro but got white lens advantage several times letting me into only pro photographers or video people allowed places.

May 09, 2008 at 11:46 PM
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Will Patterson wrote:
That too. My roomate just bought a Canon P&S with 10x zoom, and she has asked me a few times "how much zoom does your camera have?" and I try to explain to her the differences but I get the deer in the headlights look from her. She's not terribly bright.


Or maybe you're just a poor teacher. Most consumers think in terms of zoom as that's how most consumer optics are marketed.

Some of you guys must live way off the beaten track. I've lived in modestly sized cities, but even in the smallest of them (pretty small) had a healthy population of White Lenses. I can't go to any of the popular haunts (zoo, botanical garden, etc.) without seeing at least a couple of other White, or otherwise ginormous, lenses. In fact, nearly every time someone approaches me the question isn't "what kind of lens is that" but more like "so is that the f/2.8 version or the f/4."

May 10, 2008 at 12:06 AM

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