p.1 #1 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
I am curious how others feel about this situation and what their opinions are regarding Times' actions and their response to criticisim. Please vote and feel free to leave comments. You can read an article about the issue here;
p.1 #2 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
Rick,
As a 2-tour combat vet, I found the cover in bad taste. But in todays media, sensationalism is the name of the game ( ala "Dirty laundry" by Don Henly). Do anything and everything possible to draw attention to the story. Bad taste, erroneous reporting ,insults not withstanding.
In a sense, yes it is insulting to those men who risked their lives at Iwo Jima and ALL combat situations.
I guess it IS insulting to me and in bad taste in the final analysis.
Dan
p.1 #3 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
That was certainly a dumb move on their part. I do think the interviewed veteran's comments are just a silly. Stupid? Yes. Bad taste? Yes. Showing a lack of respect? Yes. A mortal sin? Going to hell? Gimme a break.
p.1 #4 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
I am all for freedom of expression/speech. I defended that right as a Marine so others could have it. With that freedom comes responsiblity. Some of those responsibilities are common sense and decency to not alter an image like this. It means too much to too many people to be used as some gimmick.
This image is in very bad test. Perhaps if this idiot had the guts to step on the yellow foot prints and make it to the end of basic and stand before a statue based on this image at Parris Island and have their drill instructors call them Marines for the first time in their life after finally earning the title they would not have been so keen to tarnish this image.
p.1 #5 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
I really dont understand your question :-/
I do think the cover is ALMOST insulting, but then again, if we dont save our enviroment, we wont have anyone left to save it.
p.1 #6 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
I am all for freedom of expression/speech. I defended that right as a Marine so others could have it. With that freedom comes responsibility. Some of those responsibilities are common sense and decency to not alter an image like this. It means too much to too many people to be used as some gimmick.
p.1 #8 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
claudermilk wrote:
I do think the interviewed veteran's comments are just a silly. Stupid? Yes. Bad taste? Yes. Showing a lack of respect? Yes. A mortal sin? Going to hell? Gimme a break.
Don't quote me on this but you sound like you haven't been to war yourself. (me neither!)
But different people different beliefs, and you don't know what he has gone through, so maybe he overeacted for a reason, he witnessed things that many of us haven't even thought of, let alone seen.
p.1 #9 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
Yes, this is sensationalistic journalism, which is what just about ALL journalism is today. Sadly, it takes this approach to get people to notice anything. And sadly, it will have no effect on the generally extremely stupid and ignorant people of this country. Look at what that moron Lt. Wells said. THAT's the problem with America. But then again, the american people voted in the biggest moron known to political history to lead this country. Enough said.
p.1 #10 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
Jeffrey wrote:
Yes, this is sensationalistic journalism, which is what just about ALL journalism is today. Sadly, it takes this approach to get people to notice anything. And sadly, it will have no effect on the generally extremely stupid and ignorant people of this country. Look at what that moron Lt. Wells said. THAT's the problem with America. But then again, the american people voted in the biggest moron known to political history to lead this country. Enough said.
Who's the bigger moron? The first one who lost to the "biggest moron", or the second one who lost to the "biggest moron"?
The first one should've won in a cake walk because the country was "well-respected," and economy was "strong", federal budget was in surplus, and jobless rate was low. It should never have come down to a few hanging chads in Florida. Gore lost to Ralph Nader in Florida, by the way.
The second one should've won because of the war.
Go figure.
The inability for the Dems to beat "the biggest moron" is the result of decades of identity politics. Instead of appealing to competency, we're told that such candidate is great for "x" issue or "y" issue and end up with candidates that were unappealing overall... so the voters go with the name they can recognize.
p.1 #12 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
Leon Noel wrote:
Don't quote me on this but you sound like you haven't been to war yourself. (me neither!)
But different people different beliefs, and you don't know what he has gone through, so maybe he overeacted for a reason, he witnessed things that many of us haven't even thought of, let alone seen.
Thankfully, no I haven't. I can understand the strong reactions veterans have to the manipulation, and in my personal opinion it shows a lack of respect for what they've sacrificed. The comment I picked out was because, even with that, it's a bit strong & I don't necessarily agree with it. I still respect his anger over the it, though.
p.1 #13 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
I'm a war veteran, and I'm not insulted by it. I do think they weren't thinking, and I wouldn't have put the cover out, but I'm not outraged or anything. Of course, I served in OIF, not WWII.
p.1 #15 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
claudermilk wrote:
Thankfully, no I haven't. I can understand the strong reactions veterans have to the manipulation, and in my personal opinion it shows a lack of respect for what they've sacrificed. The comment I picked out was because, even with that, it's a bit strong & I don't necessarily agree with it. I still respect his anger over the it, though.
I have my own answer to this, but what specific elements of the alteration do you believe to be disrespectful?
p.1 #16 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
You're right, we strayed. But there was no name calling. Just clear observation!
May 02, 2008 at 11:14 PM
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p.1 #17 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
I think it is disgraceful (or distasteful) but not as disgraceful as the blatant disregard for balanced data and presentation on the subject of Global Warming.
As we all know, the media lives and thrives off of sensationalized fear and negativity. This BTW, parallels the crowing characteristics of a cult (mind control): 1. use fear to scare them first, 2. give them a way out, and 3. portray those with a different perspective as heretics.
p.1 #18 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
There was massive skepticism over global warming not too long ago, and it was recently that we've pretty much established that we as humans are having a profound effect on the environment. Honestly, even if the projections are exaggerated, it takes a massive amount of effort to move the cogs of the global economy in a different direction, and if it takes "sensationalized fear and negativity" to push us in that direction, then so be it.
So, why not use powerful symbols to raise awareness?
May 03, 2008 at 09:06 PM
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p.1 #19 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
ontime wrote:
There was massive skepticism over global warming not too long ago, and it was recently that we've pretty much established that we as humans are having a profound effect on the environment. Honestly, even if the projections are exaggerated, it takes a massive amount of effort to move the cogs of the global economy in a different direction, and if it takes "sensationalized fear and negativity" to push us in that direction, then so be it.
So, why not use powerful symbols to raise awareness?
Sure, as long as all the facts are clearly on the table.
p.1 #20 · Is what Time did to the Iwo Jima image ok?
mark70x70 wrote:
Sure, as long as all the facts are clearly on the table.
Yeah, I suppose there has been quite a bit of imbalance in that regard. That's the problem with most of popular science. Not only do the articles control the data given, but you don't get to see the methods used, the analysis, or what the experimenters might present as confounds to given studies.
