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p.3 #1 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

I always used 2 screws in the lens foot on mine, I recently got a RRS low profile foot, there is no way it will let go. On the tripod end of things most have a 3/8" stud to attach the head, it takes ~ 5000# of tension to a pull grade 5 3/8" bolt into, so this is likley not a problem.

If we use good mechanical common sense and not "gee it feels like it only went in one or two threads.... that should be ok...." then things work as the manufacturer states.

This is probably one area where one should fully consider the ramifications of "you get what you pay for"

JMG

Mar 13, 2008 at 02:10 AM

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p.3 #2 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

It all comes down to one little screw, no matter how you slice it. I did get rid of all my clamps that used a 1/4" screw though, a long time ago.

And have you ever seen the size of the four screws that hold the lens foot on? Yikes!

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Mar 13, 2008 at 02:28 AM

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p.3 #3 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

Hey, Nill - He shoulda used a Lever clamp!

(ducks) :-)

Mar 13, 2008 at 02:41 AM

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p.3 #4 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

That lever clamp is still hanging on by that same one little screw... :-(

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Edited on Mar 13, 2008 at 03:01 AM

Mar 13, 2008 at 03:01 AM

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p.3 #5 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

Monito wrote:
MaxBL wrote: So far there is a plan to get a couple of guys together, take a sledge hammer to the lens and film it

What a stupid unimaginative waste. What a bunch of unenlightened idjits.

Give it to a highschool physics class or photo club or middle school science class. Let them take it apart and learn something and let some good flow.

Ditto! Oh my god i would LOVE to take apart the lens in my 8th grade physics class! We could do it when learning about lioght, and refraction and all that good stuff. Ohh, if ya want to send it to me man, id LUV it! Yea, dont let it go to waste, i doubt many will appreciate it, besides us minorities (photogs) who understand how horrifying horrible this is. Plus, all the peeps are probly watching Miss. Spears and her latest felony. Ok, thats my tidbit.

Mar 13, 2008 at 03:11 AM

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p.3 #6 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

Oh by the way, you posted this a while ago, most of us here read it when u posted it b4, and we would appreciate if u dont post it again. Thanx, and have a grrrrrreat day!

Mar 13, 2008 at 03:11 AM

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Mar 13, 2008 at 05:26 AM

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MaxBL wrote:
Monito wrote:
MaxBL wrote: So far there is a plan to get a couple of guys together, take a sledge hammer to the lens and film it

What a stupid unimaginative waste. What a bunch of unenlightened idjits.

Give it to a highschool physics class or photo club or middle school science class. Let them take it apart and learn something and let some good flow.

Hahahaha, before everyone gets up in arms about this, this was meant as a joke only, and only as a tribute to Office Space. We are considering "good" ways of getting rid of the carcass, so stay tuned.

Max

Ignore that literati goon; smash it up and put it on youtube!

Mar 13, 2008 at 05:33 AM

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p.3 #9 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

Guess the guy lost his deposit

Mar 13, 2008 at 07:21 AM

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p.3 #10 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

Go to somewhere where there is loads of photographers get it out glue to your trunk without people seeing it.

Get in the car start driving and have your friends to capture the horror of the people

Mar 13, 2008 at 02:42 PM

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p.3 #11 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

I just want to know who does something this stupid and then takes photos to send to the rental agency.

Mar 13, 2008 at 04:44 PM

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Kanon Kid wrote:
Oh by the way, you posted this a while ago, most of us here read it when u posted it b4, and we would appreciate if u dont post it again. Thanx, and have a grrrrrreat day!

Cool it. No, he didn't. Someone else picked up on the original thread over at another forum & linked here. I saw & participated in both.

On the screw thing (boy that sounds wrong...). While all tripod/monopod mounts get to that one little 1/4" or 3/8" screw, there has to be a difference in the material quality of the screw/stud. On stuff like RRS, etc., I'm sure they are using high-quality, high-strength material that can handle far more than wha't being asked of it. On cheap stuff like the monopod in question apparently was, I'm betting they used the cheapest material manufactured in the cheapest manner possible.

Mar 13, 2008 at 04:54 PM

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p.3 #13 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

I have never used one of these large tele's or even a monopod but wouldn't the lens be attached to the monopod on or near it's centre of mass? Assuming that's the case you would have thought that the forces on the actual screw itself wouldn't be that great.

You would have thought that everyone involved would be insured though so no harm done. Except maybe a small increase in all our insurance premiums next year...

Mar 13, 2008 at 05:17 PM

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p.3 #14 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

That's true as long as it's vertical and stationary. But when I sling my monopod, 1-series and 400 f/2.8 over my shoulder, it's all hanging on by that one little (hopefully-aerospace-quality) Gitzo screw.

But that's what insurance is for.

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Mar 13, 2008 at 05:56 PM

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p.3 #15 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

David Pennell wrote:
I just want to know who does something this stupid and then takes photos to send to the rental agency.

To tell you the truth, I requested the photos to be sent (for record keeping and insurance claim purposes). Little did I know they would also become entertaining forum posts

Max

Mar 13, 2008 at 08:14 PM

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claudermilk wrote:
Kanon Kid wrote:
Oh by the way, you posted this a while ago, most of us here read it when u posted it b4, and we would appreciate if u dont post it again. Thanx, and have a grrrrrreat day!

Cool it. No, he didn't. Someone else picked up on the original thread over at another forum & linked here. I saw & participated in both.

On the screw thing (boy that sounds wrong...). While all tripod/monopod mounts get to that one little 1/4" or 3/8" screw, there has to be a difference in the material quality of the screw/stud. On stuff like RRS, etc., I'm sure they are using high-quality, high-strength material that can handle far more than wha't being asked of it. On cheap stuff like the monopod in question apparently was, I'm betting they used the cheapest material manufactured in the cheapest manner possible.

Thanks for sticking up for me. I mostly posted this to provide some entertainment value out of what is, by all counts, a tragic event.

Also, to ask for a donation to a school and then to badmouth the OP you are asking the donation for probably won't get you very far

(just a suggestion).

Edited on Mar 13, 2008 at 08:17 PM

Mar 13, 2008 at 08:17 PM

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p.3 #17 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

As Greg said, the weather resistance is not even relevant here.

The lens was submerged in a lake, for an extended period of time. That is not even close to what a few droplets of rain do. It is much easier to prevent a few droplets from entering a lens than keeping the lens dry while completely submerged during hours. If you are not convinced, then I may suggest you look at the design (and price) of underwater housings or Nikonos cameras (in fact these are even better engieneered, since they are also supposed to resist pressure, corresponding to, say -20m).

By the way, we should not focus on the bad part and notice the bright side of things: ok, the lens did die due to submersion in water, but at least it was not eaten by the 'gators.

The customer did mention that he was very close to jumping into the water, but that the thought of being a gator's meal stopped him

Max

Mar 13, 2008 at 11:11 PM

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p.3 #18 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

This is not EOSfun

I am very sorry for the photographer.

Mar 13, 2008 at 11:25 PM

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p.3 #19 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images

I want to know if it sank like a rock or if it paused for a dramatic moment as the air inside escaped out of the lens opening to be replaced with brackish water. than slowly succumbed to its watery grave much like a large cruise ship would sink.

Mar 14, 2008 at 03:39 AM

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Nathan Hobbs wrote:
I want to know if it sank like a rock or if it paused for a dramatic moment as the air inside escaped out of the lens opening to be replaced with brackish water. than slowly succumbed to its watery grave much like a large cruise ship would sink.

Hahaha, I asked the *exact* same question. The guy said it paused for about 45 seconds and floated. He went back to his golf cart to retrieve a club to try to fish it out , but the lens already sank to a watery grave

Mar 14, 2008 at 06:41 AM

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