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p.2 #1 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


Oh, ill take it, ill take it :P

If it fell into water the glass should still be usable though... would deffenetally be interesting to try and take it appart



Mar 12, 2008 at 03:28 PM
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p.2 #2 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


Zara wrote:


What? Aren't they? I was serious... I don't know about a 600 F/4 but My 300 2.8IS is. Shouldn't weather sealing at least provide some type of protection?



Mar 12, 2008 at 03:43 PM
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p.2 #3 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


i would use as a fish tank!


Mar 12, 2008 at 03:44 PM
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p.2 #4 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


Kingfishphoto wrote:
Petcal is half right. American crocks. are there also, at the marina. They are by the locks there. Harry


Thank you, Harry, you are right, I stand corrected.
There are American Crocks in Southern Florida where this incident apparently happened (?).

Edited by PetKal on Mar 12, 2008 at 03:49 PM GMT

Edited on Mar 12, 2008 at 03:49 PM



Mar 12, 2008 at 03:48 PM
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p.2 #5 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


infosecgeek wrote:
What? Aren't they? I was serious... I don't know about a 600 F/4 but My 300 2.8IS is. Shouldn't weather sealing at least provide some type of protection?


Submersion in a lake is not "weather."



Mar 12, 2008 at 03:49 PM
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p.2 #6 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


Ok fine... Just wondering how protected they are then....


Mar 12, 2008 at 03:51 PM
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p.2 #7 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


infosecgeek wrote:
I was serious... I don't know about a 600 F/4 but My 300 2.8IS is. Shouldn't weather sealing at least provide some type of protection?


Only when attached to a weather-sealed camera. This lens became detached. Read it again.



Mar 12, 2008 at 03:52 PM
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p.2 #8 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


Not very, I'd say. I know that lots of folks use theirs in the rain. Personally I put away the 500 when the first drop falls. I'd rather err on the side of caution.


Mar 12, 2008 at 03:52 PM
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p.2 #9 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


I read that.... So the sealing is only on the lens mount not within the lens itself (elements)? And is it still sealed then if an extender is attached? I have mine with the 2x a lot lately on a 1 series.. But I didn't know that the sealing is only at the mount.


Mar 12, 2008 at 04:03 PM
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p.2 #10 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


Greg Feldman wrote:
Submersion in a lake is not "weather."


End of discussion..



Mar 12, 2008 at 04:11 PM
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p.2 #11 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


infosecgeek wrote:
I read that.... So the sealing is only on the lens mount not within the lens itself (elements)? And is it still sealed then if an extender is attached? I have mine with the 2x a lot lately on a 1 series.. But I didn't know that the sealing is only at the mount.


As Greg said, the weather resistance is not even relevant here.

The lens was submerged in a lake, for an extended period of time. That is not even close to what a few droplets of rain do. It is much easier to prevent a few droplets from entering a lens than keeping the lens dry while completely submerged during hours. If you are not convinced, then I may suggest you look at the design (and price) of underwater housings or Nikonos cameras (in fact these are even better engieneered, since they are also supposed to resist pressure, corresponding to, say -20m).

By the way, we should not focus on the bad part and notice the bright side of things: ok, the lens did die due to submersion in water, but at least it was not eaten by the 'gators.

Edited on Mar 12, 2008 at 04:22 PM



Mar 12, 2008 at 04:21 PM
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p.2 #12 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


infosecgeek wrote:
Aren't primes weathersealed?


Yes, but weather-sealed does not amount to waterproof.

I am surprised the ground glass and flourite elements are not recoverable.

Edited on Mar 12, 2008 at 04:25 PM



Mar 12, 2008 at 04:24 PM
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p.2 #13 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


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Could you please tell us what monopod head & monopod the renter was using? Also, could the renter tell you how the head failed? It would be good for all of us to know what the limitations are and what not to do.


I've been wondering about that too.



Mar 12, 2008 at 04:51 PM
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rsg_1 wrote:
Could you please tell us what monopod head & monopod the renter was using? Also, could the renter tell you how the head failed? It would be good for all of us to know what the limitations are and what not to do.


To tell you the truth, we never got the guy's monopod brand. However, when we got the lens back, we saw the culprit. It was attached to the monopod by a tiny screw and that's what broke off and was still left in the tripod collar of the 600 when we got it back.

Max



Mar 12, 2008 at 05:07 PM
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p.2 #15 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


how much to rent that one?


Mar 12, 2008 at 05:36 PM
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p.2 #16 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


Canon says its not possible to recover.... but think this way, would you pay $7.200 for a lens that could be mounted with a first element thats was hanging around with crocs or gators ?? ( i don't care what it was!).




Mar 12, 2008 at 05:48 PM
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p.2 #17 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


MaxBL wrote:
To tell you the truth, we never got the guy's monopod brand. However, when we got the lens back, we saw the culprit. It was attached to the monopod by a tiny screw and that's what broke off and was still left in the tripod collar of the 600 when we got it back.

Isn't this always true? I mean, the choices are 1/4" or 3/8", right? I worry about it sometimes, but what's the alternative?

Nill
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Mar 12, 2008 at 06:07 PM
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p.2 #18 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


infosecgeek wrote:
I read that.... So the sealing is only on the lens mount not within the lens itself (elements)? And is it still sealed then if an extender is attached? I have mine with the 2x a lot lately on a 1 series.. But I didn't know that the sealing is only at the mount.


As I recall, the MkII converters are weather-sealed, while the MkI's are not. And no, the sealing is not only at the mount; that would be kind of pointless.

Nill
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Edited on Mar 12, 2008 at 06:10 PM



Mar 12, 2008 at 06:09 PM
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p.2 #19 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


Nill Toulme wrote:
Isn't this always true? I mean, the choices are 1/4" or 3/8", right? I worry about it sometimes, but what's the alternative?

Nill
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Nill


if i read it correctly, there was not a clamp attached to the foot of the lens and that little screw was asked to carry the weight , loading , and stresses of a very heavy lens


J



Mar 12, 2008 at 06:19 PM
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p.2 #20 · Canon 600 f/4 IS Nightmare Images


That is how all are attached just the one screw at the top of the monopod or tripod. The ball, wimberley, rrs or any other is attached at the point, the weak link.


Mar 12, 2008 at 06:24 PM
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