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Lya


Feb 13, 2008 at 05:09 PM
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I dunno, Francois. As others have pointed out, your work has turned rather "blah" as late. This is a prime example.

Even the dildo shot had creative lighting.

This one is a beautiful model plopped on the floor and shot with flat light.

Keep trying, I'm sure you will get back to former days of glory.

greg



Feb 13, 2008 at 05:17 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · Minimalism...(NUDE)


Ah, now this is just simply beautiful! I could look at an image like this all day.


Feb 13, 2008 at 05:39 PM
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gheller wrote:
I dunno, Francois. As others have pointed out, your work has turned rather "blah" as late. This is a prime example.

Even the dildo shot had creative lighting.

This one is a beautiful model plopped on the floor and shot with flat light.

Keep trying, I'm sure you will get back to former days of glory.

greg


So what you are saying is that in order to be any good it has to be shocking and unusual What happened to taking enjoyment is simple beauty? The lighting in this shot is simple and subtle; just like the subject.



Feb 13, 2008 at 05:42 PM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · Minimalism...(NUDE)


I just prefer stuff that has some thought put into it.

It is a pretty girl with decent lighting, but pretty blah.

I guess I think of Francois as one who pushes the envelope and (sometimes) does stuff that would be hard for others to do. This (for me) isn't one of them.

greg



Feb 13, 2008 at 05:58 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · Minimalism...(NUDE)


in terms of minimalism, i think it's rather successful. one thing i would have done is to get the camera low enough to put the break in the floor/wall level with her calves. i think seeing too much of the pattern on the floor takes away from the minimalism concept a wee bit. although, the image doesn't do much for me personally, i can see it fitting very well into a collection that francois may be working. as a newbie here, i have no experience with his images, so i look forward to seeing how this minimalism work might evolve.

colin



Feb 13, 2008 at 06:10 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · Minimalism...(NUDE)


I'm with gheller, it's just kind of boring imo. It has no real drama or contrast to it, and the colors are all kind of bland. I'm new here, but nonetheless I love minimalist pictures. This however seems to be not minimalist, but just lacking anything substantial, which is not my definition of minimalism.

Sorry to be so rough, B.

Edited on Feb 13, 2008 at 07:12 PM



Feb 13, 2008 at 07:11 PM
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I like the simplicity of the pose. I think more could be done with creating the image, but that's almost always true, eh?


Feb 13, 2008 at 07:34 PM
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Three widely separated opinions. Well, it tells you there is a world out there, and we haven't been brain-washed into thinking the same way all the time.


Feb 13, 2008 at 07:40 PM
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Individually, yeah pretty boring... But in the context of all the other photos in the Lya series quite interesting and aptly titled. Interestingly the more of her we see the less young, attractive and exotic she appears to be in some. In the context of the series it speaks to the power of the camera to create illusion.

Edited on Feb 13, 2008 at 07:46 PM



Feb 13, 2008 at 07:45 PM
 



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Thanks to all for your input and variety of opinion.

As I see it,there are two avenues to making pictures : demonstrative or self centered. The former is the easy way. It pays off quickly because you FEEL immediatly something. The latter is more complex because the first have to look inside yourself before you can grab what's on the screen. It requires empathy, an attitude not often available in the western world

There is no particular glory to one of the avenue over the other one. But there is a reward to walking both paths at the same time.

To understand what I mean, check one of the masters of the second way (the "self centered" one)

http://jfbauret.free.fr/Portraits-nus.html

Edited on Feb 13, 2008 at 08:01 PM



Feb 13, 2008 at 08:00 PM
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I think there is much more to this shot than some are giving you credit for - it doesn't have the same impact as some of the photos on that site, but it doesn't have to hold up to "one of the masters" to be a great photo.

My only real complaint would be that the lighting is too flat/soft - but anything else would not fit in with the rest from this series, so it's fine and works perfectly well.



Feb 13, 2008 at 10:06 PM
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Sorry Chris but it just says nothing to ME....she's sitting there....looking at the camera..........ok, fine, but what now ? It's like someone said "Ok sit there and look at me"........anyone could have taken that shot.......


Feb 13, 2008 at 10:35 PM
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A nice snapshot.


Feb 14, 2008 at 12:32 AM
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anyone could have taken that shot.......

Not anyone could have offered that look....



Feb 14, 2008 at 06:29 AM
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Francois,

I appreciate what you are saying about the multiple paths of photography, but I'm not sure which path you have taken here. I'm not going to critique the shot because I feel it has already been picked at enough. I took a look at the site you linked, and most of them don't appeal to me (this is strictly preference of course) however one did- (THIS SHOT IS NOT MINE IT IS FROM THE WEBSITE http://jfbauret.free.fr/Portraits-nus.html






I think that I like this image because it seems to offer a look into the girls soul. She looks vulnerable, anxious, and curious all at the same time (my opinion of course).

One possibility about the change in perception of nude photography in recent years is the increase in pornographic images. I'm not saying that pornography and nude images are the same, of course they are not. However it is easy now to draw comparisons between the two, especially when a photograph offers no situational context such as the one that you have presented here.

As for the image, I think its nicely lit, pretty model. I agree with colin in that you might have moved the camera to better align the wall/floor seam.

Keep shooting. I would love to see a mix between your extreme images (the forest/stream dead model-ish nudes) and these softer images.

Cheers,
Jason

Edited on Feb 14, 2008 at 08:06 AM



Feb 14, 2008 at 08:05 AM
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Thanks Jason. Most of what you have said I understand and agree with.

The image you have selected dates back to the 80's but it is a fairly good exemple of what I call "minimalsim" in photgraphy. Composition is not elegant, very centered, background, though present, offers no particular element to ponder about, light is good but in no way dralmatic. It is the simplicity of the pose and the girl's gaze that offers us an insight to her soul

In my own clumsy and far less experienced way, this is what I tried to do here.



Feb 14, 2008 at 08:25 AM
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p.1 #18 · p.1 #18 · Minimalism...(NUDE)


F-

I'm 23 years old and by no means an expert at anything. I'm also learning here. So I wouldn't call yourself clumsy since you made a valiant effort at creating something that is yours.

jason



Feb 14, 2008 at 08:53 AM
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p.1 #19 · p.1 #19 · Minimalism...(NUDE)


fb101 wrote:
Not anyone could have offered that look....






Feb 14, 2008 at 10:27 PM
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p.1 #20 · p.1 #20 · Minimalism...(NUDE)


I think that this would be better with less of the floor pattern as well. A slightly lower angle would leave the floor, but you would be more likely to be sucked into the models gaze vs. just looking at zigzags next to a naked lady. Itīs a good direction, I defintely prefer it to a model and or photographer trying way too hard and never really getting there...

Edited on Feb 14, 2008 at 11:43 PM



Feb 14, 2008 at 11:43 PM
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