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Archive 2008 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

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PetKal wrote:
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gene A. wrote:
Can't call it a strike til after the pitch. Bud

You can when it's this obviously wrong.

Christian, what are your Aussie connections saying about the street price in the land down under ? They should know by now I suppose ?

from a post on POTN

cwphoto wrote: Around the same as the 300/2.8 IS, give or take.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4759211&postcount=58

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Feb 07, 2008 at 02:49 PM

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matsuib wrote:
It strikes me as odd that Canon now has made its 1DIII + 200 f2 IS combo significantly more expensive that a D3 and 200 f2 VR.

Well it makes sense when you realize that the 1DMKIII needs fixing and you'll probably have to send the 200 f/2 back to have the glass installed in it

So all that warranty work cost money

Feb 07, 2008 at 03:07 PM

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michael_ wrote:
PetKal wrote:
Christian, what are your Aussie connections saying about the street price in the land down under ? They should know by now I suppose ?

from a post on POTN

cwphoto wrote: Around the same as the 300/2.8 IS, give or take.

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=4759211&postcount=58

Thanx, Michael.

Feb 07, 2008 at 03:14 PM

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Feb 07, 2008 at 03:36 PM

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psimison wrote:

I got this from a very unreliable source. It has about as much merit as most posts. Canon will offer 1DIII owners an opportunity to trade their 1DIII for a newly refurbished 1DIIN. This upgrade will be priced at only $600.

Yea I could see it now we send in are MK III and they send us are MK III with a new MK IIIn tag and new serial number plate and the 600.00 paid for the repair.

Feb 07, 2008 at 06:23 PM

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p.3 #6 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

my dealer said today that they'll be selling the 200/2L IS for $5300. sounds like $5999 is retail after all.

-erik

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p.3 #7 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

If the 200/2 is priced around $4k then I'll purchase it. Otherwise I'm stuck with deciding between the 200/1.8 and 300/2.8.... and if it's priced around $4k then logically the price of the 200/1.8 will drop to $3k (or less for beat up ones) which then makes it attractive again

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Feb 07, 2008 at 08:01 PM

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If Canon prices the 200/f2IS at $5000 or higher following the 1DmkIII fiasco it would be a colossal mistake of marketing-textbook proportions, IMHO. Even though I may be considered biased in favor of Canon in the realm of photo gear, the pricing being hinted at by Canon is ridiculous. Consider the working pro like me who needs the f2 speed at 200mm and is also replacing a pair of pro bodies. We look at the financial analysis and see that we can get a Nikon D3 system (without the AF issues) and a 200/f2VR for thousands less than the Canon offering. That is a no-brainer decision.

Even though I'm heavily vested in Canon gear, if my 200/f1.8 ever gives up the ghost and Canon is selling the 200/f2 at near $6000 prices and if the mkIII issues are not ironed out, then I'll be switching back to Nikon for purely economic reasons. I need the gear and I need it to work as it comes out of the box. To me, now that the D3 and D300 are out and, along with their 200/f2VR, priced aggressively, Canon does not have the huge quality edge they once had.

It would behoove the marketing gurus at Canon to consider the negative impact of the 1DmkIII on their image and try not to create a reason to defect to the other brand(s).

Feb 07, 2008 at 08:22 PM

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p.3 #9 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

What if the new lens is a whole lot better than Nikon's model?

Feb 07, 2008 at 08:25 PM

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p.3 #10 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

This lens could be one of Canon's best ever, and if so then people will buy a whole lot of em.

Feb 07, 2008 at 09:06 PM

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p.3 #11 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

Bruce,

Re-read that...

They are replacing 1D3 bodies with 1D2n bodies for a $600 fee.

Seems almost reasonable.

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Edited on Feb 07, 2008 at 09:31 PM

Feb 07, 2008 at 09:31 PM

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thedigitalbean wrote:
gene A. wrote:
The other very interesting bit of info he passed along was the Canon rep told him that there will probably be a program where present owners of the 1DmkIII will be permitted to turn in there cameras toward a new 1DmkIIIN.

Yea but how much of a discount are 1D3 owners going to get when they turn it in towards a 1D3N? My guess is not that much.

If you remember, I started a thread last year about what Canon should do. That included an almost free exchange of the 1DMIII for the 1DMIII-next.
I would guess that a traded 1DMIII plus less than $1000 will get you a 1DMIIIN. It has always been my contention that Canon will make this right. Since they are obviously having some issues fixing the problem, this will make it right.

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Feb 07, 2008 at 09:50 PM

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mbellot wrote:
Bruce,

Re-read that...

They are replacing 1D3 bodies with 1D2n bodies for a $600 fee.

Seems almost reasonable.

Bruce Sawle wrote:
psimison wrote:

Offering a 1DMIIN (TWO-N) in exchage for a 1DMIII (THREE) would be equivalent to marketing suicide. They would be admitting that the newer camera was not as good as the older PLUS charging you for it. Not going to happen.

Feb 07, 2008 at 09:57 PM

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p.3 #14 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

Canon, or more appropriately, Canon dealers will be more than happy to take excessive funds from suckers, oops, I meant to say 'early adopters,' and actually should. Why not, if they are willing to pay, why should the dealer not take it. It actually might make commercial sense for some photographers (or agencies) if they can get more sales because the lens performs where other lenses will not.

Once they run out of early adopters, however, the price will have to lower to a competitive level, or the lens will not sell in sufficient quantities. I just can't believe that anyone would fall for some marketing nonsense about a "new pricing model." Supply and demand baby, same as it always was.

I'll reiterate my earlier prediction here: Under $4K in a year or less, settling to $3500.

Feb 08, 2008 at 01:52 AM

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p.3 #15 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

wilsonprince wrote:
This lens could be one of Canon's best ever, and if so then people will buy a whole lot of em.
The 200 1.8 is considered one of, if not THE best lense ever produced by Canon...

It tanked.....

If Nikon had never released the 2.0 VR, we would never have seen this lense..

Feb 08, 2008 at 09:00 PM

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p.3 #16 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

really? I just assumed that the 200 1.8 must have been a top seller. I think this lens would have eventually appeared...people seem to like IS. Nikon might have sped its appearance up a little though.

Feb 08, 2008 at 11:18 PM

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wilsonprince wrote:
really? I just assumed that the 200 1.8 must have been a top seller. I think this lens would have eventually appeared...people seem to like IS. Nikon might have sped its appearance up a little though.
Considering it disappeared in 2004, how many did you think they sold

If Nikon doesn't introduce their's, Canon never produces the 2.0.

Feb 14, 2008 at 08:29 PM

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p.3 #18 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

Thhis gives Nikon the opportunity to raise the price on their 200/2 VR

Feb 14, 2008 at 09:18 PM

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p.3 #19 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

Dark Slider wrote:

I'll reiterate my earlier prediction here: Under $4K in a year or less, settling to $3500.

I'll wager $100 that by Valentine's Day 2009 you will not be able to buy this lens new from B&H for less than $4k. Any takers?

Feb 14, 2008 at 09:19 PM

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p.3 #20 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

What? No one? Dark Slider?

Feb 15, 2008 at 04:02 PM

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p.3 #21 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

I am a cheap betting man.

If you wanna go 10:1, I'd betcha the price will not come under $4.8k by your date.

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Feb 15, 2008 at 04:59 PM

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p.3 #22 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

Anyone else notice how those saying that it is going to be $4k are at best, citing references and trends that are more than 6 years old.
And anyone who is saying it sucks but it's going to be $6k and not settle a whole lot lower longer term, are citing references and trends that are less than 3 years old.

Dream all you want. Bitch all you want. But when you have links like these:

http://www.adorama.com/CA2002AFU.html
http://www.amazon.com/Canon-200mm-Telephoto-Digital-Cameras/dp/B00132CJR6/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1203093970&sr=8-1

Well? Show me a single credible counter (okay I grant Amazon isn't the best, but it's certainly better than something with a 0.7 lifetime resellerratings score)...
Hey, I'd love to date Jessica Biel (as she was cited in an earlier post); but some things just aren't realistic.
-C
Ps. To those who are simply calling Canon stupid and idiotic and "moving to Nikon". This is GREAT news for EVERYONE! You're getting a vastly superior system, and I can take some of that old worthless Canon crap off your hands!

Let me know what you're selling! I'm always in the market for some good cheap used gear!

Feb 15, 2008 at 05:03 PM

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cad3 wrote:
Anyone else notice how those saying that it is going to be $4k are at best, citing references and trends that are more than 6 years old.
And anyone who is saying it sucks but it's going to be $6k and not settle a whole lot lower longer term, are citing references and trends that are less than 3 years old.

Yep, I know. I've mentioned this about 3 times in three different threads here on FM along with a couple of DPR as well. I was really hoping Dark Slider would take my bet, would have been easy money

Feb 15, 2008 at 05:21 PM

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p.3 #24 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

PetKal wrote:
I am a cheap betting man.

If you wanna go 10:1, I'd betcha the price will not come under $4.8k by your date.

Erm... if you are referring to me then we would essentially be betting on the same thing

Feb 15, 2008 at 05:23 PM

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p.3 #25 · Dealer info 200mm F2/1DmkIII

I'm not so sure that I need a F2 200mm lens (either the Nikkor available now or the Canon ater) because my D3 set @ ISO 6400 will let me enlarge up to 24x35.' That leaves the sole reason to buy a F2 200mm as a $5K bokey(izer) which may/should be possible in PS.

Which is another way of saying buy a $5K super ISO body (D3 or what ever Canon soon makes to compete with it) and double the speed of ALL your lenses (as compared to my MKIII's ISO of 3200).

Feb 15, 2008 at 05:31 PM


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