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Brandon Mizar
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p.1 #1 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


A guy that I know runs a really nice frame shop and sells a ton of stuff including prints. His daughter is getting married in April and he asked me to shoot the wedding. He said instead of money I could put up a really big canvas and some smaller prints and a banner for my company inside of his store to advertise.

Does that sound like a good deal or should I just charge him?

The frame shop is in our local mall which is always very crowded.

Jan 29, 2008 at 12:18 AM
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p.1 #2 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


How long will he keep the sign up? Does the his contact with the mall stipulate him advertising for you?

The problem is people look for a frame, AFTER they have a picture to put in it.

Jan 29, 2008 at 12:20 AM
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p.1 #3 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


That Curtis guy has it on the head.

Maybe work a deal where the value of his service contributes to your price - but there is a certain point you might not want to go below.

Though - maybe his daughter is hot and the wedding will be fabulous.

Jan 29, 2008 at 12:30 AM
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p.1 #4 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


RedWhiteandRed wrote:
Though - maybe his daughter is hot and the wedding will be fabulous.


OK, free wedding


Jan 29, 2008 at 12:34 AM
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p.1 #5 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


Sounds like he doesn't value your service. If he did, he'd look at paying you for it, not doing in the easy way out.

Any kind of trades should be the reverse. If he asked you to shoot the wedding, but you wanted a good deal you could offer to trade for his services, not his services for yours.

Jan 29, 2008 at 12:55 AM
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p.1 #6 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


I wouldnt do it. not worth it.

Jan 29, 2008 at 01:05 AM
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p.1 #7 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


A frame shop is not visited by brides until they have already gotten their wedding photos taken.

I'd pass.

Jan 29, 2008 at 01:08 AM
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p.1 #8 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


not a chance. Most uncool that he would seek to take advantage of you.

A better approach would have been to make the offer to you on the basis of you doing the job at a reduced rate. Say 25% off.

Jan 29, 2008 at 01:15 AM
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p.1 #9 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


No. Money works better.

Jan 29, 2008 at 02:42 AM
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p.1 #10 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


I bet you'd have to supply the canvas and prints, too, huh? Don't bother asking him, because I'm sure (since he's such a nice guy) that he'd tell you that, as a gesture of his good will, he'd buy them once you give him the digital files....

Honestly, it sounds like he's taking advantage of you, or attempting to, at the very least.

I doubt you'd get any sales from this. He gets free wedding photography and some free decorations for his business to show off HIS goods, not yours.

Once you turn him down, he'd probably offer credit at his store equal to what you'd charge. Pass that up as well, he's still making WAY out on the deal.

John

Jan 29, 2008 at 03:02 AM
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p.1 #11 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


Be polite and respectfully decline. Tell him you really appreciate the offer, but you can't afford to discount your services that drastically.





Jan 29, 2008 at 03:32 AM
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p.1 #12 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


asimsoofi wrote:
Be polite and respectfully decline. Tell him you really appreciate the offer, but you can't afford to discount your services that drastically.





+1 .... doesn't look like a deal that could offer you much.


Jan 29, 2008 at 06:20 AM
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p.1 #13 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


Is it not bit late to look for a photographer - is there another phtograpehr involved?

I would make him a counter offer - something that is acceptable to you - not close the door completely - but it would be close to your package fees

Jan 29, 2008 at 11:52 AM
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p.1 #14 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


butchM wrote:
asimsoofi wrote:
Be polite and respectfully decline. Tell him you really appreciate the offer, but you can't afford to discount your services that drastically.





+1 .... doesn't look like a deal that could offer you much.


+2

Jan 29, 2008 at 11:58 AM
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p.1 #15 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


You would find a business that would do that for you for free also. I see it as somewhat insulting.
If it were a bridal shop who's clients were likely to fall into your price bracket you would do something similar for exclusive rights to promote through that store.

Jan 29, 2008 at 12:17 PM
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p.1 #16 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


I would suggest that you could reach an agreement that would not have anything to do with his daughter's wedding.
You could put his frames in your studio and your work in his mall shop to further your business. But to shoot a wedding for free with the hope that you will make that money back from his form of advertising is not likely. I have never heard of a bride finding a wedding photographer through a frame shop. Wedding vendors are your best bet. Don't waste any energy with this person. If he seriously appreciates your work then he will still want to book with you and work out the advertising details outside of that. To me he seems to just be looking for an easy way to get free wedding coverage for minimum effort on his part.

Jan 29, 2008 at 02:14 PM
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p.1 #17 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


I agree with pretty much everything that has been said so I won't beat a dead horse. I will say that I would caution overreaction, it's possible that in this guys head he truly believes this to be a good deal for both of you. Perhaps he has visions of his own daughter on huge canvas prints in his own shop, the idea of which he might love. Before insulting him back try talk to him about some limited thing after the wedding, but that for expense reasons you will need to charge your normal fees.

Jan 29, 2008 at 02:38 PM
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p.1 #18 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


RedWhiteandRed wrote:
That Curtis guy has it on the head.

Maybe work a deal where the value of his service contributes to your price - but there is a certain point you might not want to go below.

Though - maybe his daughter is hot and the wedding will be fabulous.



HAHAHA......DANG you are funny.........

Jan 29, 2008 at 03:21 PM
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p.1 #19 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


Tell him that April is an extremely business month for you and that you have two brides you have spoken to about that date........leave it at that....he'll get the point.......

His offer is garbage........

Jan 29, 2008 at 03:22 PM
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p.1 #20 · Does this sound like a good business deal?


I would offer a trade for a stock of frames. If he would give me 20 16x24's and 20 11x14's (or whatever your best selling sizes are), that I could, in turn, sell to future clients for a profit, it would actually work out well!

Just remember that the set up he's currently offering would cost YOU money.


Edited on Jan 29, 2008 at 05:44 PM


Jan 29, 2008 at 05:43 PM

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