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p.1 #1 · 7D confirmation??

For those of you who didn't see, though its relatively old (October), according to a post on dpreview.com:

Canon 7D specs:
-12mp
-5fps,Up to 21 RAW files
-dust removing system
-15-point TTL CMOS sensor
-Center point additionally sensitive with lenses of F2.8 or faster
-96% frame coverage
-Magnification: 0.71x
-3.0 " 640×480 TFT LCD (920,000 pixels)
-ISO 50-3200 extended to 12800 and 25600
-DIGIC III, 14-bit
-Canon EF lens mount (not EF-S)
-Live View Mode
-The Body Is Much Identical to 5D, Could Share The Handgrip
-Surprisingly cheap, US: $ 1,899

also included was a link showing a barcode.. .http://www.upcdatabase.com/item.asp?upc=0013803086706

Basically its what you get if the 40D and the 5D make a baby, and a pretty baby at that.

Edited on Jan 07, 2008 at 12:31 AM

Jan 07, 2008 at 12:27 AM

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p.1 #2 · 7D confirmation??

Why reduce 12.8MP to 12?

Jan 07, 2008 at 12:32 AM

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p.1 #3 · 7D confirmation??

No idea, it could it be because of the 14-bit Digic III processor having higher resolution? Hopefully it will blow the D300 out of the water.

Jan 07, 2008 at 12:38 AM

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M Vers wrote:
...... Hopefully it will blow the D300 out of the water.

Is that really important to you?

Jan 07, 2008 at 12:39 AM

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p.1 #5 · 7D confirmation??

Interesting. I don't think it's right, though. As Gochugogi said, why replace the 12.8 mpx sensor with a 12 mpx?

And, why offer ISO 12,800 and 25,600 without 6400?

Also, what is a 15-point TTL CMOS sensor? Would that be the AF sensor or metering sensor.

The price would be right, given what's offered.

Jan 07, 2008 at 12:40 AM

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p.1 #6 · 7D confirmation??

"confirmation??"...as in questionable. As for the specs, I didn't write them up, its a direct copy and paste so I have no idea why there is a .8 mp downgrade. And the D300 is the 7D's rival (according to the post). Being a canon fan, I would hope its a better body.

Edited by M Vers on Jan 06, 2008 at 07:43 PM GMT

Edited on Jan 07, 2008 at 12:43 AM

Jan 07, 2008 at 12:40 AM

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p.1 #7 · 7D confirmation??

There are UPCs for both Canon 2D and 4D. 2008 looks to be an awesome year for Canon DSLR owners to upgrade.

2D
http://www.upcdatabase.com/item.asp?upc=0013803029024

4D
http://www.upcdatabase.com/item.asp?upc=0013803023787

Also - just uploaded ... the Canon 70D!!!
http://www.upcdatabase.com/item.asp?upc=0082966214202

It isn't up in the database just yet, but I would also expect a 5.5D, a 3.5D, and a 85D as well.

Jan 07, 2008 at 12:42 AM

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p.1 #8 · 7D confirmation??

Marc Kurth wrote:
M Vers wrote:
...... Hopefully it will blow the D300 out of the water.

Is that really important to you?

I 2nd this. Why do we care how it compares against the D300? Why is it so important to have bragging rights? Why don't we just make photos rather than continuously pixel peeping, putting down Nikon, arguing about what camera is best etc... As a thought, can you show me how these 7D specs will allow you to make better photos?

Jan 07, 2008 at 12:45 AM

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p.1 #9 · 7D confirmation??

M Vers wrote:
"confirmation??"...as in questionable. As for the specs, I didn't write them up, its a direct copy and paste so I have no idea why there is a .8 mp downgrade. And the D300 is the 7D's rival (according to the post). Being a canon fan, I would hope its a better body.

Edited by M Vers on Jan 06, 2008 at 07:43 PM GMT

That's the problem with today's photographer...they are fans first and photographers second. I'm a Vancouver Canucks fan. I'm a Green Bay Packers fan. I'm a St. Louis Cardinals fan. I am a Canon equipment photographer...but I am not a Canon fan.

Jan 07, 2008 at 12:48 AM

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p.1 #10 · 7D confirmation??

It has nothing to do with pixel peeping or bragging rights more so I wouldn't want to have to switch over from Canon to Nikon after all of these years if Nikon starts making lower priced "better" bodies. It has nothing to do with better photos, rather everything to do with breaking the bank.

Jan 07, 2008 at 12:52 AM

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chez wrote:
M Vers wrote:
"confirmation??"...as in questionable. As for the specs, I didn't write them up, its a direct copy and paste so I have no idea why there is a .8 mp downgrade. And the D300 is the 7D's rival (according to the post). Being a canon fan, I would hope its a better body.

Edited by M Vers on Jan 06, 2008 at 07:43 PM GMT

That's the problem with today's photographer...they are fans first and photographers second. I'm a Vancouver Canucks fan. I'm a Green Bay Packers fan. I'm a St. Louis Cardinals fan. I am a Canon equipment photographer...but I am not a Canon fan.

It's only a problem if you're not a shareholder

Jan 07, 2008 at 12:52 AM

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Tomagado wrote:
chez wrote:
M Vers wrote:
"confirmation??"...as in questionable. As for the specs, I didn't write them up, its a direct copy and paste so I have no idea why there is a .8 mp downgrade. And the D300 is the 7D's rival (according to the post). Being a canon fan, I would hope its a better body.

Edited by M Vers on Jan 06, 2008 at 07:43 PM GMT

That's the problem with today's photographer...they are fans first and photographers second. I'm a Vancouver Canucks fan. I'm a Green Bay Packers fan. I'm a St. Louis Cardinals fan. I am a Canon equipment photographer...but I am not a Canon fan.

It's only a problem if you're not a shareholder

And what is wrong with being a fan of certain equipment? I PERSONALLY like the ergonomics of the canon EOS bodies, does that hurt your feelings? I also personally think that Canon makes better glass. You know having an opinion about certain things doesn't mean its a wrong one because others disagree. This post was only to share information that dpreview had posted. It was not posted as a canon press release statement.

Jan 07, 2008 at 12:58 AM

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EltonTeng wrote:
There are UPCs for both Canon 2D and 4D. 2008 looks to be an awesome year for Canon DSLR owners to upgrade.

2D
http://www.upcdatabase.com/item.asp?upc=0013803029024

4D
http://www.upcdatabase.com/item.asp?upc=0013803023787

Also - just uploaded ... the Canon 70D!!!
http://www.upcdatabase.com/item.asp?upc=0082966214202

It isn't up in the database just yet, but I would also expect a 5.5D, a 3.5D, and a 85D as well.

You do know that people can enter their own junk into this database, it doesn't have to be from Canon. I wouldn't trust this at all.

Edited on Jan 07, 2008 at 01:25 AM

Jan 07, 2008 at 01:25 AM

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p.1 #14 · 7D confirmation??

M Vers,

I honestly don't think that your opinion has hurt anyone's feelings. You just came on pretty strong with a "brand wars" slant in your comments. Many of the folks here are talented photographers so images add validity to a person’s opinion.

Nowadays it seems like every 14 year old with an internet connection is an expert, so many of us react accordingly to posts that seem a bit too “fanboy”. I’m certainly not accusing you of this, but merely explaining a mindset that some of us have. FM is good place and we would hate to see it go the way of so many other sites.

Show us what kind of images you capture and you will gain respect and I’m sure that you will fit right in!

Respectfully,
Marc

Jan 07, 2008 at 01:31 AM

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p.1 #15 · 7D confirmation??

A 2D and 4D aye, pull the other one it yodels.

Jan 07, 2008 at 01:31 AM

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bcaslis wrote:

You do know that people can enter their own junk into this database, it doesn't have to be from Canon. I wouldn't trust this at all.

Did you see the !D UPC, too?

Jan 07, 2008 at 01:37 AM

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p.1 #17 · 7D confirmation??

I'll believe the specs when I see em, until then, Im not gonna hold my breath on anything

Jan 07, 2008 at 01:37 AM

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p.1 #18 · 7D confirmation??

the faster they come out with more toys so that equipment junkies sell their old, thus "not good" cameras for the cheap, the better for me

hoping to grab some 5ds for the 1500 mark real soon

chin f.

Jan 07, 2008 at 01:47 AM

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Marc Kurth wrote:
M Vers,

I honestly don't think that your opinion has hurt anyone's feelings. You just came on pretty strong with a "brand wars" slant in your comments. Many of the folks here are talented photographers so images add validity to a person’s opinion.

Nowadays it seems like every 14 year old with an internet connection is an expert, so many of us react accordingly to posts that seem a bit too “fanboy”. I’m certainly not accusing you of this, but merely explaining a mindset that some of us have. FM is good place and we would hate to see it go the way of so many other sites.

Show us what kind of images you capture and you will gain respect and I’m sure that you will fit right in!

Respectfully,
Marc

Well said Marc.
Now that it is so easy to post ones work, may be fred should make it a pre requisite that any one wishing to post, publishes on line. (And I will qualify that by warning anyone that mine is a glorified travelogue, not a centre of excellence!)
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Jan 07, 2008 at 02:06 AM

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Marc Kurth wrote:
M Vers,

I honestly don't think that your opinion has hurt anyone's feelings. You just came on pretty strong with a "brand wars" slant in your comments. Many of the folks here are talented photographers so images add validity to a person’s opinion.

Nowadays it seems like every 14 year old with an internet connection is an expert, so many of us react accordingly to posts that seem a bit too “fanboy”. I’m certainly not accusing you of this, but merely explaining a mindset that some of us have. FM is good place and we would hate to see it go the way of so many other sites.

Show us what kind of images you capture and you will gain respect and I’m sure that you will fit right in!

Respectfully,
Marc

Certainly I am not an expert nor do I claim to be one, on the other hand I know what I know...and what I know is that I prefer Canon equipment over Nikon for the reasons listed above. This is similar to why some people choose a BMW over a Mercedes or vice versa, they are both well designed automobiles and they get you from place to place and that can't be argued. What can is the taste of the consumer hence the statement "to each ones own". As for this post being too "fanboy", I was unaware that some would take to heart such a simple statement. Nowhere did I say "down with Nikon, the evil regime!" so I don't think getting overly defensive is necessary. And since when does respect form based on the type of images one makes...shouldn't all who post on FM receive the same amount of respect? Or did I miss the fine print when I registered claiming this forum is for the elite of the elite, and only those who enter can gain respect from others based on their uber skills?

All in all, this was posted in order to share information. Whether that information was correct I did not say, it was more of a conversational piece rather than a proclamation of the 7D specs. So if you disagree with the referred information originally posted on dpreview that is between you and the provided info, not me.

Regards,
Matt

Edited on Jan 07, 2008 at 02:11 AM

Jan 07, 2008 at 02:10 AM

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Hi Matt,

I'm sorry that my post made you feel so defensive, that was certainly not my intent. I am far from being expert and I'm a lousy photographer. I was only suggesting that you have an opportunity to differentiate yourself by proving that you actually take pictures. That's strictly up to you.

For what it’s worth, there is a difference between treating someone respectfully (with common courtesy) and having genuine respect for them.

In my world, real respect is earned – not automatic. You may have a different view.

Marc

Jan 07, 2008 at 02:52 AM

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M Vers wrote:
For those of you who didn't see, though its relatively old (October), according to a post on dpreview.com:

Jan 07, 2008 at 03:06 AM

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p.1 #23 · 7D confirmation??

Wait, is this dpreview or not? I'm confused. This thread sure sounds like dpreview.

Perhaps certain phrases should be banned... such as "blow xxx out of the water", which AFAIK can have nothing to do with photography but everything to do with brand wars.

Back on topic... I highly doubt Canon will release a new FF camera for under $2K. After all, why would they? Apart from the 5D, the next cheapest FF body is $5K.

Jan 07, 2008 at 03:14 AM

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Marc Kurth wrote:
Hi Matt,

I'm sorry that my post made you feel so defensive, that was certainly not my intent. I am far from being expert and I'm a lousy photographer. I was only suggesting that you have an opportunity to differentiate yourself by proving that you actually take pictures. That's strictly up to you.

For what it’s worth, there is a difference between treating someone respectfully (with common courtesy) and having genuine respect for them.

In my world, real respect is earned – not automatic. You may have a different view.

Marc

Marc,

Here is where my confusion lies. Why must I prove I actually take pictures in order to post information that I came across? In other words, if I had posted a sample of my work beneath the original post, that would give credit to the post? As for your use of the word 'respect' possibly another word would seem better fit such as 'admiration', which in this case would make more sense. Judging the amount of respect for any one person is gained through knowing, and as far as I know, you don't know me. Before any degree of heightened respect is gained, I should hope that one man would give another an equal amount until proven otherwise. That is my view at least. And TBH, I don't really see how respect applies in this situation anyhow.

Matt

Jan 07, 2008 at 03:14 AM

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Matt,

I have caused this to go way off topic, so I will politely back out of this conversation with my apologies.

Marc

Jan 07, 2008 at 03:23 AM


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