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p.752 #1 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


I hear you Ray.


Sep 01, 2022 at 09:22 PM
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Ray Swindle wrote:
Sorry, I couldn't "Like" that post. Very sad and unfortunate events.

Very tragic and sad.



Sep 02, 2022 at 12:12 AM
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L.E.D. lighting in the rotary engine. Very cool idea. Looks fantastic. What plane is that btw?



Sep 02, 2022 at 02:37 AM
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
Incredible Douglas!


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Ray Swindle wrote:
Gotta love this thread, such great photos the last few pages by everyone! Great job guys.


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Bill Gass wrote:
Beautiful, Mr. Liu


Thank you, gentlemen! Yes, it's a risky business. When I was watching the Zero taxing after it flew, I heard someone talking about the insurance for that thing. That's just the money side of things.

Some more shots from Wednesday night's sunset airshow. I was never fond of shooting prop. planes because it was so hard to get a good one, but I found "spray and pray" is my friend.




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Sep 02, 2022 at 04:47 AM
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crow high wrote:
L.E.D. lighting in the rotary engine. Very cool idea. Looks fantastic. What plane is that btw?


It's Matt Younkin's Twin Beech 18. This was my second time to see him doing the night show "Magic by Moonlight". I set my camera's max. ISO to 10000, at f4, ISO10000, 1/100 of a second at 600mm, the images were still way underexposed, I had to boost the exposure in Lightroom more than I was comfortable with, and a crazy about of noise reduction was applied in Topaz AI Denoise.

Here are a few more.




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Sep 02, 2022 at 04:56 AM
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Douglas L wrote:
These are some amazing photos, Jim!

Learned about a small sunset airshow 100 miles away two days ago so I took a quick trip last night. Saw one of the very few Japanese Zeros that are still airworthy, that was a first for me. In order to make sure I would get a few decently sharp shots at 1/125 second, I took the term "spray and pray" to a whole new level.

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Just beautiful Douglas!!!!!
Is that an O2 Skymaster in the postings? They were my FAC/FAO support in Vietnam. They had our "six" all the time!!
Dan



Sep 02, 2022 at 10:22 AM
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Just beautiful Douglas!!!!!
Is that an O2 Skymaster in the postings? They were my FAC/FAO support in Vietnam. They had our "six" all the time!!
Dan


Thank you Dan! I am not sure, the only planes at the show that I know for sure are the Zero, the P-51 Mustang, the Twin Beech 19. I am not sure about the rest, maybe a T-6 Texan?



Sep 02, 2022 at 10:48 AM
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That is an O2 I believe. Those guys had their hands full in Vietnam didn't they Dan?! The rear engines in those are very vulnerable to overheating due to poor cooling design, I'll bet they replaced a bunch of them over in that climate.


Sep 02, 2022 at 10:51 AM
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Hey Ray, I signed up for this a few months ago and have found it to be of considerable value in getting up to speed with the R5/R5C, and even the R6:

https://www.canonmasterclass.com/start

The guy is a bit hard to watch, but the info is great. Who names their kid "Rubidium" anyway...........? Sounds like something Madam Curie came up with................



Sep 02, 2022 at 10:56 AM
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Thanks Jim, the cost isn't bad for the R5c course. Looks like something I could use. Looks like a course that could help me ask better questions.😀


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JWilsonphoto wrote:
That is an O2 I believe. Those guys had their hands full in Vietnam didn't they Dan?! The rear engines in those are very vulnerable to overheating due to poor cooling design, I'll bet they replaced a bunch of them over in that climate.


Indeed so Jim. In places "we were not supposed to be" they were invaluable.
Thanks!
RD





Sep 02, 2022 at 01:59 PM
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I think I told you guys about our pilot in the 147th who spent his SEA tour flying the O-2. He wasn't an FAC, he was one of the guys flying in places the US wasn't suppose to be, he didn't wear a uniform and he did not have to conform to hair or dress codes. He recorded two Mig kills with his unarmed O-2. I heard these stories about him (Tom Verso) so one night I was on the Alert crew and I asked him about it. He told me they were true. Two separate missions he saw Migs out numbering the USAF guys. He said he would fly up and harass the Migs. They would get tired of his antics and chase him. When he saw them coming at him, he would fly low until he saw them initiate the attack. He said the new or inexperienced pilots would concentrate on shooting him down and follow him. Of course they were flying faster than him, so at the last moment, he would pull up or down. At their speed, two crashed. The Air Force guys gave him credit on those two occasions for the kill. BUT: He wasn't suppose to be there so he didn't get official credit, but he did get the Silver Star. Maj. Verso was a crazy fun guy. In addition to being a heck of a good pilot, he became a chiropractor and a preacher plus many other vocations. He was kind of like a really smart Maynard G. Krebs. He might have been a beatnik when he was younger.😀


Sep 02, 2022 at 02:17 PM
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A beech 18 wow. Haha that's cool. I thought it was a dc-3 at first but the H tail made me ponder that guess. No it can't be. I see Beechcraft wherever I go lol. I mean they are very popular to this day in Canada. All their models. Most of their models.

I like the last image. This image:


Yes it's shaky. I really like the illumination of the smoke below it. Superbly cool.



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crow high wrote:
A beech 18 wow. Haha that's cool. I thought it was a dc-3 at first but the H tail made me ponder that guess. No it can't be. I see Beechcraft wherever I go lol. I mean they are very popular to this day in Canada. All their models. Most of their models.

I like the last image. This image: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/50/2413550.jpg

Yes it's shaky. I really like the illumination of the smoke below it. Superbly cool.


Thank you! It did a show before sunset, before I got there, I didn't get to photograph that segment. I will get to see him again on Sept 18 at the Oceana, Va show but it's going to be during the harsh day time light. I have been to sunset shows only twice before fell in love with them.



Sep 02, 2022 at 03:08 PM
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
That is an O2 I believe. Those guys had their hands full in Vietnam didn't they Dan?! The rear engines in those are very vulnerable to overheating due to poor cooling design, I'll bet they replaced a bunch of them over in that climate.


Jim, Dan, were you guys talking about this plane?




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I think I told you guys about our pilot in the 147th who spent his SEA tour flying the O-2. He wasn't an FAC, he was one of the guys flying in places the US wasn't suppose to be, he didn't wear a uniform and he did not have to conform to hair or dress codes. He recorded two Mig kills with his unarmed O-2. I heard these stories about him (Tom Verso) so one night I was on the Alert crew and I asked him about it. He told me they were true. Two separate missions he saw
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Kind of the low speed edition of "flat plating the bird" http://www.aviation-history.com/airmen/boyd.htm

Rob



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Douglas L wrote:
Jim, Dan, were you guys talking about this plane?


I think Jim was talking about the Cessna Sky Master / AKA the O-2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_Skymaster

Rob



Sep 02, 2022 at 03:25 PM
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Douglas L wrote:
Jim, Dan, were you guys talking about this plane?


Yeah, I think that is a J-3 Cub called the Piper L-4A Grasshopper. (Also O-59). I have read some WWII books where the Army would be fighting in the interior of jungles (Pacific War) where there was so much rain they were fighting in mud measured in feet. They couldn't get resupplied via trucks so they sent in some of these guys. The pilot would fly low then have to kick the boxes out since there wasn't room for a second person.

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Sep 02, 2022 at 03:49 PM
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RobMoser wrote:
Kind of the low speed edition of "flat plating the bird" http://www.aviation-history.com/airmen/boyd.htm

Rob


It was more like how when pilots are flying formation on the wing of another plane, they don't look where they are going, they are looking at the wing of the plane they are in formation with (they are putting their life in the pilot of that lead plane). The Mig pilots were watching the target (his O-2) and he could maneuver his O-2 much quicker than they could. He would lead them to the ground or a mountain then correct his course and they didn't have time to react.

In the 1960's the Italian Air Force lost a four ship of F-104s because they were flying in formation and the lead pilot led the formation into a mountain, he was the only one who could have seen the flight path, and he had become incapacitated.




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Seems there is a Racing Plane down at Minter field with a fatality Pilot Sherman Smoot.
I can't read the article.. but that's not good at all.

NBC17 News KGET as far as I can see.



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