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Boy am I glad to be home in Colorado!


Leaving Las Vegas







Stereo-X pair for cross-eyed viewing




Jul 05, 2014 at 08:46 PM
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p.4217 #2 · p.4217 #2 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


BTW, as much as I loved Glenn, his is a different lesson. Yes, he was dedicated to perfecting his flying skills, and he was a great stick. He had an unquenchable thirst for knowledge and a mind second to none. His lesson though is one I already knew, but hadn't experienced quite so close to my heart. No matter how quick a study you might be, if your net worth allows you to advance rapidly through the ranks of airframes, you begin rolling the dice. Non military trained pilots flying sophisticated high performance military airframes....actuarially, well read the NTSB reports. Add simple formation work, the odds tick up, add precision formation work ++, add air show formation work where schedules and the excitement surrounding showmanship enter in ++++. Move into increasingly high performance airframes where the margin for error is about as thick as a laminated checklist.

God bless the guys who calculate and accept that level of risk, we love watching them, and it's exciting/rarified air that they breathe, but we are all very familiar with how it ends eventually. Not being morose, just realistic.



Jul 05, 2014 at 08:50 PM
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p.4217 #3 · p.4217 #3 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


I think a well maintained B25, in the right hands is exponentially safer than the fighters. If for no other reason, and I think there are other reasons, than the fact that one is not tempted to loop and or roll them. Gunny had an engine go toes up with a load of people on board, on a flight out of Vegas around the Grand Canyon. He declared, Vegas was the nearest suitable, they denied him, he explained exactly how the emergency was going to play out and that he was landing McCarren and that he'd be happy to discuss it all with them on the ground, but get everything the H#X@ out of the way until he was on that ground. Those kinds of things, that kind of experience, that type of discipline, not to mention the character of the man, are the qualities you want when things are coming apart around you.

BTW, as is often the case, the whole thing could have been avoided with proper maintenance.

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Jul 05, 2014 at 09:00 PM
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p.4217 #4 · p.4217 #4 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Zim, did you fly your new bird, or take commercial?


Jul 05, 2014 at 09:02 PM
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Spartan! - Captured at the 2014 EAA Cracker Fly-in, Gainesville, GA. Christopher Buff, www.Aviationbuff.com








Jul 05, 2014 at 09:12 PM
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That's a beauty Chris!


Jul 05, 2014 at 09:18 PM
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Dutch Apache Demo




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Jul 05, 2014 at 09:39 PM
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p.4217 #8 · p.4217 #8 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Just spent a few minutes going back to the 2006 Time Machine of our initial thread. Fun, what a journey we have had together.


Jul 05, 2014 at 09:45 PM
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p.4217 #9 · p.4217 #9 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Dear Jim, may I say how relieved I am to read your recent words re acquiring / flying a '51?

High quality decision making is at a premium when things go bad as the incident with Gunny illustrates. Better yet, make those good decisions on the ground. Now don't get me wrong, I marvel at the incredible serviceability that the warbird maintainers achieve but the fact is, none of these wonderful aircraft where ever designed or built with any kind of long term serviceability in mind. It's not just the '51 that can bite as far as I can see they all do. Fact is a piston single fighter is a hot ship and the passage of time does not alter that.

On the other hand, a Tucano sounds almost sensible. A modern turbine motor removes a huge amount of uncertainty and a modern airframe with a design life in the thousands of hours removes most of the rest. BTW can one get a live seat from MB for those ex RAF Tucanos or are they still giving it the Teflon shoulders.



Jul 05, 2014 at 10:17 PM
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p.4217 #10 · p.4217 #10 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Interesting little tidbit about Tesla I found today while surfing news:

http://gas2.org/2014/07/05/tesla-motors-makes-hiring-vets-priority/




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Pffft what a match !!!




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Jul 05, 2014 at 11:11 PM
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p.4217 #12 · p.4217 #12 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


F16
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Jul 05, 2014 at 11:23 PM
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p.4217 #13 · p.4217 #13 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Hi Nick,

Right you are, if I can mute the "yeah, but it's not a Mustang" voice in my head. I'm guessing that sitting in a pristine Tucano spooling up the Pratt, might drown some of that out.



Jul 06, 2014 at 01:56 AM
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p.4217 #14 · p.4217 #14 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Yup, I think it'd be fine........................


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S349bdr2Q-Q



Jul 06, 2014 at 02:08 AM
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
Zim, did you fly your new bird, or take commercial?


This was shot from seat 4A on UA1072. I performed with the chorus in Vegas on Friday night and needed to be at my daughter's Colorado wedding reception this afternoon. Otherwise I'd have been tempted to fly the Pipistrel down through Utah, shooting all the way.



Jul 06, 2014 at 03:39 AM
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NightOwl Cat wrote:
Interesting little tidbit about Tesla I found today while surfing news:

http://gas2.org/2014/07/05/tesla-motors-makes-hiring-vets-priority/



Tesla seems bound and determined to do the right thing on more than just the technical front.



Jul 06, 2014 at 03:47 AM
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p.4217 #17 · p.4217 #17 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


JWilsonphoto wrote:
Yup, I think it'd be fine........................

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S349bdr2Q-Q


Pardon me while I wipe the drool off my chin.

Erich



Jul 06, 2014 at 04:02 AM
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p.4217 #18 · p.4217 #18 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Would be fun on HQ Thursday, wouldn't it!


Jul 06, 2014 at 04:19 AM
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p.4217 #19 · p.4217 #19 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


A GoPro, a laser connected to a simple sight, a couple receivers that trigger a buzzer... Yeah, that'd work!

Erich



Jul 06, 2014 at 04:31 AM
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p.4217 #20 · p.4217 #20 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


How I spent my Fourth of July...

http://youtu.be/OBguShgJzYA

...competing in Vegas with Sound of the Rockies.



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