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JayDavis wrote:
I don't think I will ever get tired of that feeling.



It is a most excellent feeling ;-) Nice one!



Jul 29, 2015 at 10:43 AM
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Go4Long wrote:
Here's the thing with the F-35 in my opinion. Every new fighter has had it's supporters and it's haters. F-4 pilots hated the F-16 at one point too, and look at where it sits now.



Most F-4 guys didn't like it because it had a fixed stick on the console that used pressure, not movement to fly the jet. Many older pilots would over G the aircraft because they tried to move the stick, thus, too much pressure. The other reason, two engines. In a dogfight, an extra engine is always nice. Plus...well...the F-4 is just awesomeness!



Jul 29, 2015 at 01:38 PM
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johnahill wrote:
I'm still getting through my images from Duxford legends.
Spitfire Mk xiv


I know the engineers must have had their reasons, but it's always jarring to see a clipped-wing Spit. How could you mess with the perfection of that beautiful, elliptical wing?



Jul 29, 2015 at 01:48 PM
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Wrei wrote:
Most F-4 guys didn't like it because it had a fixed stick on the console that used pressure, not movement to fly the jet. Many older pilots would over G the aircraft because they tried to move the stick, thus, too much pressure. The other reason, two engines. In a dogfight, an extra engine is always nice. Plus...well...the F-4 is just awesomeness!


That's my point though. People needed to learn how to fly it the way it was meant to be flown, if you try to fly it like an F-4, it doesn't do that. Same thing with the F-35...most people are stepping in to them from F-16s, and if you try to fly it like an F-16...it doesn't do that. The F-16 does things that no other fighter can do, the F-35 does things that no other fighter can do...to expect it to do the same different things that an F-16 does is pretty much the same as expecting an F-16 to suddenly do all of the things an F-35 can do, neither one is a reasonable expectation.

It's still a few months from its IOC. Give it a few years and who knows where it'll be. Maybe people will still hate it...maybe they'll love it. Let's get some people with REAL seat time in the jet and then let them say if they like it or hate it, since most of the critics are still arm chair warrioring a jet that they've only seen in pictures or from across the apron.



Jul 29, 2015 at 03:16 PM
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p.4203 #5 · p.4203 #5 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


We are not in disagreement.


Jul 29, 2015 at 03:50 PM
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p.4203 #6 · p.4203 #6 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


F-100 go around from Friday.





  Canon EOS 7D Mark II    EF500mm f/4L IS USM lens    500mm    f/5.6    1/800s    100 ISO    0.0 EV  




Jul 29, 2015 at 04:31 PM
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p.4203 #7 · p.4203 #7 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


stevez wrote:
I know the engineers must have had their reasons, but it's always jarring to see a clipped-wing Spit. How could you mess with the perfection of that beautiful, elliptical wing?


Yeah but its got a cool 5 bladed prop



Jul 29, 2015 at 07:21 PM
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p.4203 #8 · p.4203 #8 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


On sale in the used dept today, only $180,000.00 OMG !

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/801201815-USE/canon_2527a001_super_telephoto_1200mm_f_5_6l.html

Canon Super Telephoto 1200mm f/5.6L EF USM Autofocus Lens



Jul 29, 2015 at 07:21 PM
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p.4203 #9 · p.4203 #9 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


More from AirVenture...this is going to take a while ...

T-6 Parade


Prowling at Night


Panchito


and...That "Ugly" airplane




Jul 29, 2015 at 09:34 PM
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p.4203 #10 · p.4203 #10 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


I love my "job".................







Jul 30, 2015 at 04:24 AM
 

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p.4203 #11 · p.4203 #11 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


The "Stars" Of AirVenture 2015:

QF-4E Phantom II


F-100F Super Sabre



Jul 30, 2015 at 05:02 AM
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p.4203 #12 · p.4203 #12 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Old Gunfighters Never Die...



Jul 30, 2015 at 05:43 AM
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p.4203 #13 · p.4203 #13 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Great set of Oshkosh stuff guys.




Jul 30, 2015 at 07:01 AM
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p.4203 #14 · p.4203 #14 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


FAA regulations are obviously not so tight in Budapest!!!

https://www.youtube.com/embed/0px9HFIVYjY?feature=player_embedded

Niall



Jul 30, 2015 at 07:05 AM
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p.4203 #15 · p.4203 #15 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Hand...Salute!

The mighty Fairey Swordfish passes in review, at RNAS Yeovilton International Air Day.










Stereo-X pair for cross-eyed viewing




Jul 30, 2015 at 02:24 PM
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p.4203 #16 · p.4203 #16 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


After all the news about the F-16 killing the F-35 in a dogfight, I had to do a little research. I know the DoD and Lockheed wouldn't spend $35 million on a dog. Here is what LM says about air to air:

"The F-35ís integrated sensors, information and weapons systems give pilots an advantage over potential threat front-line fighter aircraft. Compared to 5th Generation fighters like the F-35 and F-22, legacy aircraft have a larger radar cross-section (RCS), which means they can be more easily detected by enemy radar. In aerial combat, legacy aircraft have relatively equal opportunities to detect and engage one another, while a 5th Generation fighter pilot can see enemy aircraft first and take decisive, lethal action from a stand-off distance. The ability to see and not be seen is redefining previous generation air-to-air tactics."

Again, much like how the F-4 was not given a gun because it was designed to kill bombers...yeah, DoD thought the threat of bombers was the future of air to air defense...it appears the F-35 is designed to kill the enemy using it's stealth and electronics advantage. Here we go, the DoD isn't expecting line of sight dogfights for the F-35...go figure. Guess they will be backed up with F-22s.

I haven't posted a photo in a while, so here's an oldie of what some first thought was a Weird Bird:







(Anyone else used the "Dehaze" slider in LR?)

Edited on Jul 30, 2015 at 10:08 PM · View previous versions



Jul 30, 2015 at 05:19 PM
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p.4203 #17 · p.4203 #17 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


The DOD has maintained all along that the F-35 is meant to work WITH the F-22, not replace it.

It's a simulation but here's some interesting scenarios

http://aerosociety.com/News/Insight-Blog/3272/Does-the-F35-really-suck-in-air-combat#.VaBahxSM1mU.facebook



Jul 30, 2015 at 05:26 PM
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p.4203 #18 · p.4203 #18 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Attila...



Jul 30, 2015 at 08:34 PM
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p.4203 #19 · p.4203 #19 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


My initial air to air hop for EAA...

L-19


Velocity


1944 PT-26 Cornell



Jul 30, 2015 at 09:29 PM
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p.4203 #20 · p.4203 #20 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Absolute top notch set of shots Jay super crispy... I hope they ask you to come back next year..


Jul 30, 2015 at 10:29 PM
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