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p.4004 #1 · p.4004 #1 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


A cousin to Jim's Globals buzzing the tower at KPHX.







Dec 13, 2013 at 02:53 PM
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p.4004 #2 · p.4004 #2 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Hi every one, Got a question. Was out photographing some Christmas 'Heavies' this morning and was getting a wide range of exposers from under to way over exposed in just a few second apart. I was shooting in Aperture-priority mode and had metering set in matrix. Is my D800 just not awake in the morning or am I just doing some thing wrong?

Thanks
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Dec 13, 2013 at 06:11 PM
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p.4004 #3 · p.4004 #3 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Hi Paul,

Zim may have another take, mine is the mistake you were making was shooting something moving with a D800 Wish it wasn't so, love the camera for a lot of things, but when you introduce a moving subject, it just isn't the camera of choice, and it won't make you look like a hero.



Dec 13, 2013 at 07:19 PM
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p.4004 #4 · p.4004 #4 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Paul, let me ask the obvious question: do you have HDR bracketing turned on by mistake?


Dec 13, 2013 at 08:42 PM
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No Sir.
............................wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwell, now that I look at it, I fell like the worlds biggest dumm-a$$, So that would be a, YEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
# 4237 time this year I lived up to my name.


Thanks, Zim.



Dec 13, 2013 at 09:26 PM
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p.4004 #6 · p.4004 #6 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


PDumm wrote:
No Sir.
............................wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwell, now that I look at it, I fell like the worlds biggest dumm-a$$, So that would be a, YEP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
# 4237 time this year I lived up to my name.

Thanks, Zim.


It's all part of the total service package that is MA2A. And it's not like I haven't done this myself, more times than I can count; that's why I asked the question.



Dec 13, 2013 at 10:51 PM
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p.4004 #7 · p.4004 #7 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


One for Jim. Hopefully people will be getting shots of his B-25 like this in the not too distant future!




Dec 14, 2013 at 01:58 AM
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p.4004 #8 · p.4004 #8 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Thanks again Zim, I have a bad habit of makeing changes like that and forgetting to change it back when I'm done.


Dec 14, 2013 at 02:02 AM
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Taxi.






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Dec 14, 2013 at 02:12 AM
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p.4004 #10 · p.4004 #10 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Thanks for fielding Paul's question Zim. I was distracted when I read it and completely missed the over/under exposure part. Gotta love the knowledge here, among a host of other things.


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p.4004 #11 · p.4004 #11 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Hoot Gibson in 232 at pylon 2. Notice the common problem of racing Sea Fury's, the open tail wheel door. At the home pylon on the final lap it ingested the intake scoop. Hoot executed a perfect mayday landing.






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Dec 14, 2013 at 04:35 AM
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Sparky.




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Dec 14, 2013 at 04:48 AM
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p.4004 #13 · p.4004 #13 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Just a small point of curiosity struck me today. We all have it understood that during an A2A it is full disc or go home pretty much, but what about G2A? Is there an agreed upon standard or "expected minimum percentage" of a disc? Take Jelly Belly above at about 25-30% of a disc as an example of what I mean. Just picking the fruit from the wealth of knowledge tree here.







Dec 14, 2013 at 05:31 AM
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p.4004 #14 · p.4004 #14 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


At my age, prop blurr means the rest of the image is blurred too!

That is a great shot...



Dec 14, 2013 at 05:39 AM
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I want to try to get most of the plane sharp in G2A so I shoot anywhere from 1/125-1/320. 1/320 is only for the tiny plastic planes, and aero acts that really turn the engine and prop hard. WWII big iron is never faster that 1/250.


Dec 14, 2013 at 05:41 AM
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p.4004 #16 · p.4004 #16 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


As we are into the "Scottish Widows" team at the moment, these are at 1/500 but it's probably a bit fast, whilst the Dakota is at 1/250 (but not a brilliantly sharp image - probably due to camera shake because it was a long way off, rather than motion blur)
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Dec 14, 2013 at 09:53 AM
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p.4004 #17 · p.4004 #17 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Brian's wonderful Stearman image is a great example of the "full disc" goal. Not everyone can get them, no one can get them all the time, for some it's not even a goal, some like the effect, some don't care. Therein lies one of the beauties of our passion and trade. Kind of a "from each according to his/her ability, to each according to his/her vision" to paraphrase good 'Ol Karl.

Because of Brian's vision and skill at the instant the Stearman was captured, one can see something I don't ever remember seeing prior to this image, a perfect shade sketch of the radial engine on the back of the prop, very cool! Well done Brian!!



Dec 14, 2013 at 02:55 PM
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JWilsonphoto wrote:
Brian's wonderful Stearman image is a great example of the "full disc" goal. Not everyone can get them, no one can get them all the time, for some it's not even a goal, some like the effect, some don't care. Therein lies one of the beauties of our passion and trade. Kind of a "from each according to his/her ability, to each according to his/her vision" to paraphrase good 'Ol Karl.

Because of Brian's vision and skill at the instant the Stearman was captured, one can see something I don't ever remember seeing prior to this image, a perfect shade sketch
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Not to mention both of the right wings! I puzzled over that shadow on the prop disc until Jim's note made it obvious...

Love the watermark 'stenciled' on the side of the fuselage, too, Brian



Dec 14, 2013 at 03:11 PM
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p.4004 #19 · p.4004 #19 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


Oh, and did you see the orange / yellow “feathers” on the trailing edge of the main gear? Super job Brian.

Here in the UK I mostly find myself shooting G to A into a flat grey sky. In the past I've often ended up busting a gut trying for a full disk only to be rewarded with an invisible disk!
From now on I'm going to reserve silly shutter speeds for helicopters – getting any blur into those big two blade Bells is hard work.




Dec 14, 2013 at 03:39 PM
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p.4004 #20 · p.4004 #20 · Mustang Air to Air: The Sequel


I tend to go for as much prop blur as possible, no matter the situation. I like the motion blur I can get, and I enjoy the challenge. I lose more shots than I gain, but when I get the one it makes it all worth it.

That being said, I have learned that the gearing on the different engines will give a full disk on a Merlin (P-51) at 1/100, but that same setting will leave gaps on an Allison (P-40) or R-2800 (Corsair) powered airplane so I'm constantly adjusting depending on what is flying by. Number of prop blades also affects this, which is why Brian's shot with a 2-blade Stearman is not an easy one to get!



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